This isn’t going to solve any ‘blowouts’. It’s going to make things worse.
You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
Apparently, from what I’ve been reading, the issue wasn’t even completely with farming. It was also about the games ending too fast.
If that’s the case, people that are good/have friends to play with literally have no chance to make the complainers happy. You don’t want us to farm? Fine, we’ll end it instead. Oh, but you don’t want us to end it either? Then what are we supposed to do?
Well, now we know. We’re supposed to exclude our friends so that we don’t have a full team. The decision baffles me. If one playlist is restricted, fine. Consider it kind of a mercenary-esque that you search with a smaller party or solo. Then when people get on, go to the main playlist as a team. But now both are restricted. I’m forced to have randoms on my team now. I just don’t understand.
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> Apparently, from what I’ve been reading, the issue wasn’t even completely with farming. It was also about the games ending too fast.
> If that’s the case, people that are good/have friends to play with literally have no chance to make the complainers happy. You don’t want us to farm? Fine, we’ll end it instead. Oh, but you don’t want us to end it either? Then what are we supposed to do?
> Well, now we know. We’re supposed to exclude our friends so that we don’t have a full team. The decision baffles me. If one playlist is restricted, fine. Consider it kind of a mercenary-esque that you search with a smaller party or solo. Then when people get on, go to the main playlist as a team. But now both are restricted. I’m forced to have randoms on my team now. I just don’t understand.
A team of 12 can easily be split into 2 teams of 6 and still be in the party together and still have fun. Your still playing a match with your friends, and everyone in the match has a higher likelihood of enjoying themselves which is the end goal.
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> > Apparently, from what I’ve been reading, the issue wasn’t even completely with farming. It was also about the games ending too fast.
> > If that’s the case, people that are good/have friends to play with literally have no chance to make the complainers happy. You don’t want us to farm? Fine, we’ll end it instead. Oh, but you don’t want us to end it either? Then what are we supposed to do?
> > Well, now we know. We’re supposed to exclude our friends so that we don’t have a full team. The decision baffles me. If one playlist is restricted, fine. Consider it kind of a mercenary-esque that you search with a smaller party or solo. Then when people get on, go to the main playlist as a team. But now both are restricted. I’m forced to have randoms on my team now. I just don’t understand.
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> A team of 12 can easily be split into 2 teams of 6 and still be in the party together and still have fun. Your still playing a match with your friends, and everyone in the match has a higher likelihood of enjoying themselves which is the end goal.
Well, you’re right to an extent. But not completely. Having randoms on my team is not my idea of enjoying myself. I know how my teammates play, what their tendencies are, etc. I don’t know the randoms on my team. I specifically searched with 12 so I knew there was no random influence on the outcome of my game. If we lose, it’s our own fault. Now it’s not necessarily our own fault. But we can’t do anything to change that, we’re stuck with randoms every single game.
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> This isn’t going to solve any ‘blowouts’. It’s going to make things worse.
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> You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
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> I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
Says the one with close to 80% win rate in warzone, what do you know of fair matches?
If red team has a fireteam of 6 good chance blue team will have a fireteam of 6. Probably both fire teams will be from the same Spartan company.
Be honest, you’re afraid your win rate will drop to around 50% like the rest of us and you’re desperately trying to protect your precious stats.
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> > This isn’t going to solve any ‘blowouts’. It’s going to make things worse.
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> > You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
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> > I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
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> Says the one with close to 80% win rate in warzone, what do you know of fair matches?
> If red team has a fireteam of 6 good chance blue team will have a fireteam of 6. Probably both fire teams will be from the same Spartan company.
> Be honest, you’re afraid your win rate will drop to around 50% like the rest of us and you’re desperately trying to protect your precious stats.
Don’t be so salty. He obviously plays with teams to gain XP faster by ending games faster. It just so happens that you win when you do this
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> You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
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> I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
Agreed. Most people going for quick games will now be slaughtering randoms for unfrigs
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> > You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
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> > I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
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> Says the one with close to 80% win rate in warzone, what do you know of fair matches?
> If red team has a fireteam of 6 good chance blue team will have a fireteam of 6. Probably both fire teams will be from the same Spartan company.
> Be honest, you’re afraid your win rate will drop to around 50% like the rest of us and you’re desperately trying to protect your precious stats.
I don’t play with teams to win, I play with teams so I don’t get farmed on. Playing solo is more often than not subjecting yourself to whatever another team wants to do with you. As for fairness I personally really don’t use many req weapons or vehicles either. My loadout is 90% of the time silenced BR, SMG, and advanced sensors.
I’m really not, you’re just assuming I tryhard Halo 5, probably because I’m wearing Achilles. I don’t. You can look at my game history in WZ and Arena and see that I don’t get in games daily, and when I do there aren’t many. I really couldn’t care less for my ‘precious stats’.
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> > You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
> >
> > I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
>
> Says the one with close to 80% win rate in warzone, what do you know of fair matches?
> If red team has a fireteam of 6 good chance blue team will have a fireteam of 6. Probably both fire teams will be from the same Spartan company.
> Be honest, you’re afraid your win rate will drop to around 50% like the rest of us and you’re desperately trying to protect your precious stats.
How does his stats have any relevancy? Are you that desperate to make it sound like you have an argument?
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> > You won’t have the 12 man team to quick core anymore, sure. Now, all the 6-man teams (probably) won’t have the ability to core, but instead will be racking up kills for 20-30 minutes at a single base. And if they are good enough, the others that ended up paired with them will be doing just as well.
> >
> > I play with many, many teams, and I hardly see any farming lobbies anymore. I’m pretty sure they are about to be brought back indirectly. 343 better revert to 12-man groups pretty quickly, or Warzone is going to lose a huge chunk of it’s population.
>
> Agreed. Most people going for quick games will now be slaughtering randoms for unfrigs
Quick cores is pretty much all I’ve been in for at least the last three months. The players, or companies, that I tend to group with don’t bother with farming because of the eventual ‘Avoid Me’ reputation.
It takes a coordinated full team to quick core. As I see it, 6 players will just mean the group will try to triple cap by themselves, and keep looping in the ‘take their final base’ phase, assuming the opposing team isn’t throwing back much of a fight.
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> How does his stats have any relevancy? Are you that desperate to make it sound like you have an argument?
It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic <bleep>.
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> It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic <bleep>.
I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> > It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic <bleep>.
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> I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> It simply shows they cannot really provide one.
Statistics are a part of the argument. You having a win rate of 77.6%.
Win rates like that are only possible because you were in a fireteam with a lot of people and those wins came about because you faced against randoms a lot. Those wins did not come about solely on your performance but because your team was similar so much better than the enemies. As such you are part of the problem and since 343 is providing a fix about it by reducing fireteam size your stats will be affected and will be alike everyone elses in the longer run, 50-50.
why is anyone assuming one team gets 6+6 while the other is 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1?
just watch as one squad of six and randoms gets pitted against the same on the other side and a beautiful level of balance develops.
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> > > It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic .
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> > I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> > It simply shows they cannot really provide one.
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> Statistics are a part of the argument. You having a win rate of 77.6%.
> Win rates like that are only possible because you were in a fireteam with a lot of people and those wins came about because you faced against randoms a lot. Those wins did not come about solely on your performance but because your team was similar so much better than the enemies. As such you are part of the problem and since 343 is providing a fix about it by reducing fireteam size your stats will be affected and will be alike everyone elses in the longer run, 50-50.
So? I enjoy playing with teams. I got something extremely, extremely shocking for you. Dunno if you can handle it.
Ready?
Halo is a team based game. Amazing isn’t it? Let me say it again. Halo is a team based game. There are teams. It is my choice if I want to team up with people who are of my skill level and no matter how much you complain, I am free to do as I wish, just as you are.
I don’t like playing with randoms who do not know what they are doing. I prefer to play with teams. How is that a problem? Because you are too lazy to find one yourself? I enjoy playing with friends. If you consider making friends and playing with them a “problem” then you simply must not have that many if we wanted to jump onto the train of assumptions.
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> > > > > How does his stats have any relevancy? Are you that desperate to make it sound like you have an argument?
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> > > > It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic .
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> > > I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> > > It simply shows they cannot really provide one.
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> > Statistics are a part of the argument. You having a win rate of 77.6%.
> > Win rates like that are only possible because you were in a fireteam with a lot of people and those wins came about because you faced against randoms a lot. Those wins did not come about solely on your performance but because your team was similar so much better than the enemies. As such you are part of the problem and since 343 is providing a fix about it by reducing fireteam size your stats will be affected and will be alike everyone elses in the longer run, 50-50.
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> So? I enjoy playing with teams. I got something extremely, extremely shocking for you. Dunno if you can handle it.
>
> Ready?
>
> Halo is a team based game. Amazing isn’t it? Let me say it again. Halo is a team based game. There are teams. It is my choice if I want to team up with people who are of my skill level and no matter how much you complain, I am free to do as I wish, just as you are.
>
> I don’t like playing with randoms who do not know what they are doing. I prefer to play with teams. How is that a problem? Because you are too lazy to find one yourself? I enjoy playing with friends. If you consider making friends and playing with them a “problem” then you simply must not have that many if we wanted to jump onto the train of assumptions.
Playing in a full fireteam is good for reinforcing friendships with friends however as beneficial it is to you, its pretty unfair to the 12 randoms as they will always lose. For me I’d rather play solo if it means fair games, but playing in a fireteam of 12 you just steamroll every random and that’s just not honourable and it hurts the community.
I’m not criticising your decision to group up with others, I’m criticising your stance on 343 industries change to fireteam limit.
Anyone with a really high win rate has no right to say this is a bad change.
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> > > > It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic .
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> > > I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> > > It simply shows they cannot really provide one.
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> > Statistics are a part of the argument. You having a win rate of 77.6%.
> > Win rates like that are only possible because you were in a fireteam with a lot of people and those wins came about because you faced against randoms a lot. Those wins did not come about solely on your performance but because your team was similar so much better than the enemies. As such you are part of the problem and since 343 is providing a fix about it by reducing fireteam size your stats will be affected and will be alike everyone elses in the longer run, 50-50.
>
> So? I enjoy playing with teams. I got something extremely, extremely shocking for you. Dunno if you can handle it.
>
> Ready?
>
> Halo is a team based game. Amazing isn’t it? Let me say it again. Halo is a team based game. There are teams. It is my choice if I want to team up with people who are of my skill level and no matter how much you complain, I am free to do as I wish, just as you are.
>
> I don’t like playing with randoms who do not know what they are doing. I prefer to play with teams. How is that a problem? Because you are too lazy to find one yourself? I enjoy playing with friends. If you consider making friends and playing with them a “problem” then you simply must not have that many if we wanted to jump onto the train of assumptions.
Yup its a team based game, so flick the switch to TEAM CHAT and start co-ordinating. WZ is supposed to be an casual playlist, easy for new players to get into. It still wont be easy with 6 man fireteams running around, but a little easier im sure.
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> > > > > It doesn’t lol. It’s just assumption I’m a tryhard statistic .
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> > > > I hate people who attack stats rather than attack the argument.
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> > > > It simply shows they cannot really provide one.
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> > > Statistics are a part of the argument. You having a win rate of 77.6%.
> > > Win rates like that are only possible because you were in a fireteam with a lot of people and those wins came about because you faced against randoms a lot. Those wins did not come about solely on your performance but because your team was similar so much better than the enemies. As such you are part of the problem and since 343 is providing a fix about it by reducing fireteam size your stats will be affected and will be alike everyone elses in the longer run, 50-50.
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> > So? I enjoy playing with teams. I got something extremely, extremely shocking for you. Dunno if you can handle it.
> >
> > Ready?
> >
> > Halo is a team based game. Amazing isn’t it? Let me say it again. Halo is a team based game. There are teams. It is my choice if I want to team up with people who are of my skill level and no matter how much you complain, I am free to do as I wish, just as you are.
> >
> > I don’t like playing with randoms who do not know what they are doing. I prefer to play with teams. How is that a problem? Because you are too lazy to find one yourself? I enjoy playing with friends. If you consider making friends and playing with them a “problem” then you simply must not have that many if we wanted to jump onto the train of assumptions.
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> Playing in a full fireteam is good for reinforcing friendships with friends however as beneficial it is to you, its pretty unfair to the 12 randoms as they will always lose. For me I’d rather play solo if it means fair games, but playing in a fireteam of 12 you just steamroll every random and that’s just not honourable and it hurts the community.
> I’m not criticising your decision to group up with others, I’m criticising your stance on 343 industries change to fireteam limit.
> Anyone with a really high win rate has no right to say this is a bad change.
So? Why should I be concerned to the other 12 randoms? If you would rather play solo, then kudos to you. That is your gig. Playing with my friends and steamrolling is my gig. I enjoy it. I don’t need your approval.
How is it not honorable? Last I recalled this was a video game. Fair? I’m not cheating. I’m not exploiting the game. I am fulfilling the win conditions in one of many ways the game allows me to. It isn’t the method you agree with.
No, you are going after my stats because you don’t have much of an argument. You have a positive K/D. I think it needs to be brought down to negative like half of the community since you being better than them is ruining their experience. By doing better than them, they go negative and thus don’t have any fun. This is your logic, being applied to your stats except it’s K/D, and if you have a 2.0 or above, you have no room to argue.
I have every right to say what I wish, and there is nothing you can do about that. It isn’t a crime actually to have a high win rate.
What’s the point of having friends to play games with? We should all just clear out our friends list and leave our spartan companies! Or…they could implement one of the ideas for making it so you could forfeit the game instead of being farmed, I mean those ideas have been floating around for forever but just seem to be ignored. I just hate when you run out of room for people in lobbies, which happened even when the fireteam limit was 12, so now it’s going to be twice as bad. It’s just frustrating that now you have to like pick and choose who to play with even more than before. I’ll just have to have a rotating schedule of who I’m playing with on what days now I guess. Mondays are for these 5, Tuesdays for these 5, etc etc… If I wanted to play a playlist with a 6-person fireteam limit I’d just go to infection…
decision.