Logic behind the -Spoiler- Fight

Chief and Locke’s fight, while awesome, had some major flaws in it.

Firstly, damage sustained by both fighters (Chronological).

Chief took: several knees to the stomach, kick to the top of his helmet, single punch to helmet, uppercut to the visor, his own headbutt.

Locke took: Battle Rifle being broken across his face, judo flip, two punches to the face, knee to unarmored abdomen, headbutt.

Chief took substantially less damage than Locke, but walked away in worse shape.

At the very start of the fight, Chief rips Locke’s BR out of his hands, and proceeds to, for lack of a better term, slap him with it. If you look closely, you can see fragments of the weapon’s stock fly through the air between them. This means that Chief is swinging this thing with the intent to knock Lock unconscious. A normal BR can survive multiple fatal hits from a Spartan’s melee attacks, but Locke remained entirely conscious and combat capable. Given the strength capacity of Chief, and the speed the stock was traveling upon impact, he could have been hit with a force somewhere around having a car hit your head going 30+ miles per hour. Logically, he has a concussion, potentially internal bleeding, and maybe even some issues with his neck. That should have been the end of the fight.

However, they go into a bit of a wrestling match over the Armor Restraint, during which, Chief lands a solid punch to Locke’s helmet, followed by another backhanded strike as he brought his hand back to its proper side. He also landed a knee to the unarmored side region of Locke’s midsection. This is hit that would damage the soft tissues on his right side, or at the very least, have him feel some pain and recoil from it.

Chief’s helmet has two portions above his eyes that protrude outwards. While these are not jagged, they can concentrate force in a much greater way than a standard human skull. This means that his headbutt would have dealt a fair deal of damage to Locke’s helmet.

This is a good point.
Then again, fairly sure that Osiris’ armor is meant to be more advanced. So…that’s a thing?..

It was epic

Do we know how old both Locke and Chief are at this moment? With Locke having advanced armour and possibly being younger than Chief he could probably be able to sustain more damage than Chief can.

A lot of this can essentially be chalked up to the suits taking the brunt of the damage. Concussive strikes could relatively easily be at least to some extent absorbed by the suits’ actuators, the rest being on Spartan bones. As for tissue damage, if a MkVI GEN1 suit gel layer can tank two orbital reentries without requiring repair, a knee or two isn’t much for a much more advanced, top-of-the-line GEN2 suit.
Regarding the visors/helmet damage, Chief’s is bigger, so it’s more likely to fracture. Locke’s is more chunkily constructed around the temples and cranium, too, so that probably helped.
(Oh, and I can say from personal experience that a ‘Judo flip’ does next to no damage if you know how to land. Granted, that is on tatami, but the technique is still very viable on hard surfaces.)

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> Do we know how old both Locke and Chief are at this moment? With Locke having advanced armour and possibly being younger than Chief he could probably be able to sustain more damage than Chief can.

Mentally and physically, Chief is 42 but in reality he is 47.

Locke’s 29

My only complaint is how slow the fight was. I was kind of expecting something like the Freelancer fights from RvB, and before you say “that isn’t halo” or something lore wise Spartans are very very very fast with enhanced reflexes.

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> My only complaint is how slow the fight was. I was kind of expecting something like the Freelancer fights from RvB, and before you say “that isn’t halo” or something lore wise Spartans are very very very fast with enhanced reflexes.

RvB was taking the Spartans from the books, and animating it.

The fight wasn’t too fast otherwise we could not see it ahah

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> My only complaint is how slow the fight was. I was kind of expecting something like the Freelancer fights from RvB, and before you say “that isn’t halo” or something lore wise Spartans are very very very fast with enhanced reflexes.

I guess they tried to stay grounded, rather than go full over the top with the action. Add that to the fact that it would be hell to mocap all that. XD

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Which is the complete opposite of the intro of Team Osiris.

Anyway Locke made a mistake, that’s does not mean I wanted Locke to win the fight against Chief, because I’m a member of the #TeamChief, and I’m greatful for that doesn’t happen, so to continue my thought.
When Locke and Buck talked on the Infinity deck, he (Locke) throw that armorlock(e) thing on Bucks armor. But when he fought against the Chief, he wanted to get closer to Chief, to stick that armorlock. What a dumb idea he had. But rejoice because it didn’t happen.

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Coughcoughgivingthecovenantbacktheirbombcoughcough.

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Chief might be 42/47 but he would have spent a lot of the war in cryo, his physical age as a result of cryosleep is anybody’s guess…

Don’t get me wrong guys, the fight was great. And I know the judo flip would have done nothing, if not knocked a touch of wind out of him. It’s mainly breaking the BR across his face barely fazing him that got me. The knees were somewhat staggering Chief, and Chief’s did nothing against Locke. I just threw everything in to show what damage would have normally been sustained, and to show all the “damage” that each fighter took.

I just dont get how there are so many new spartans. The only way to become a spartan is to go through genetic altering that 1/3 of subjects dont survive on top of that chief and the other went through extreme muscle enhancement on top of what the suit can do. It makes no since that any spartan other than a spartan II themselves could even stand up to chief even for minute.

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> I just dont get how there are so many new spartans. The only way to become a spartan is to go through genetic altering that 1/3 of subjects dont survive on top of that chief and the other went through extreme muscle enhancement on top of what the suit can do. It makes no since that any spartan other than a spartan II themselves could even stand up to chief even for minute.

You clearly haven’t read Glasslands. I’m not saying you should but it explains it.

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