Livestream feature, and shoutcasting...

Games Other Halo
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If there was a tool planted into the Halo 4 game that let your LIVESTREAM games from your console to the internet with no additional hardware, and also gave you the option to commentate, do you think that would be a good thing for Halo?

The reason I ask this was because the press got SO much Black Ops 2 MP news this morning from Gamescom, and apparently Black Ops 2 will support this livestream feature free of charge.

If this tool doesn’t impact framerate, and does its job, Halo NEEDS this to be able to bring people back into eSports.

This isn’t a Halo 4 vs BO2 thread, I just genuinely want to get your opinion on the feature and know weather or not you’d want this in Halo.

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bump for more opinions

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I’m all for it. As long as it doesn’t impact gameplay mechanics which it most likely would, especially for Halo.

A great tool for those who don’t want to bother with extra hardware.

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Two words: Griffball Championship

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I dont find it necessary, and honestly, I think that BLOPS2 can do it due to it’s engine. Same reason as to why you can view killcams in that game due to the constant game recording.

However, live streaming takes a toll on your internet speed. If your connection doesn’t have at least a 4mb/s upload speed, forget it. Even then, your game will be laggy, and you’ll find yourself missing shots.

When you put in the extra hardware to your PC, you’re able to adjust quality, bitrate, and many other aspects.

And in all honesty, if EVERYBODY had the option to live stream, we’d see thousands of streams available, which is an absolute waste. If you’re not a solid well-known player, people aren’t going to sit on their computers and watch you play.

That’s why the pros can afford to set up their live stream with solid equipment, purchase a high-speed connection, and bring in a hundred viewers.

Experience: I live stream on Twitch.tv using AverMedia Game Broadcaster HD through Xsplit.

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Don’t bump your threads. Ever.

As for this Livestream feature. I find it fairly useless since all you really need is a Capture Card and a Livestream/Ustream account.

I don’t see why 343 have to add an extra feature to a game because people don’t want to buy capture cards.

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> Don’t bump your threads. Ever.
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> As for this Livestream feature. I find it fairly useless since all you really need is a Capture Card and a Livestream/Ustream account.
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> I don’t see why 343 have to add an extra feature to a game because people don’t want to buy capture cards.

Because it provides a highly sought after feature…for free? lol

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> I dont find it necessary, and honestly, I think that BLOPS2 can do it due to it’s engine. Same reason as to why you can view killcams in that game due to the constant game recording.
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> However, live streaming takes a toll on your internet speed. If your connection doesn’t have at least a 4mb/s upload speed, forget it. Even then, your game will be laggy, and you’ll find yourself missing shots.
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> When you put in the extra hardware to your PC, you’re able to adjust quality, bitrate, and many other aspects.
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> And in all honesty, if EVERYBODY had the option to live stream, we’d see thousands of streams available, which is an absolute waste. If you’re not a solid well-known player, people aren’t going to sit on their computers and watch you play.
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> That’s why the pros can afford to set up their live stream with solid equipment, purchase a high-speed connection, and bring in a hundred viewers.
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> Experience: I live stream on Twitch.tv using AverMedia Game Broadcaster HD through Xsplit.

Yeah, but the reason they get so popular is because they are the only ones. People are intimidated by buying high end tools to do livestreams and stuff, and if the tools are given to you for free in a game, it would allow people to enter that arena. That’s the whole point for Tryarch adding it in.

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This is a good idea but this will make Live streaming less unique. At the moment it is not too frequent and only gets high views if well known people stream.If this feature was implemented then live streams would be common with few people watching due to live streams being boring and often unprofessional.

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> This is a good idea but this will make Live streaming less unique. At the moment it is not too frequent and only gets high views if well known people stream.If this feature was implemented then live streams would be common with few people watching due to live streams being boring and often unprofessional.

That’s the thing, though. More people want to do it, but they lack the tools to do so. If it was built into a game for them to take advantage of, you’re essentially giving birth to a new wave to commentators/streamers.

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> > This is a good idea but this will make Live streaming less unique. At the moment it is not too frequent and only gets high views if well known people stream.If this feature was implemented then live streams would be common with few people watching due to live streams being boring and often unprofessional.
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> That’s the thing, though. More people want to do it, but they lack the tools to do so. If it was built into a game for them to take advantage of, you’re essentially giving birth to a new wave to commentators/streamers.

I understand what you mean,but this may work better as a paid subscription service?If the tools are given to every single player, live streaming may be worn out,with few viewers mainly because they cannot find a stream with quality content.Maybe paid like Bungie Pro?

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Please do not bump your thread. It’s against the rules.

Just like everything on the file browser, if there was a free way to put your videos online to youtube, it would mostly be a good thing. Don’t expect everything uploaded to be a piece of artwork though. You would just have to go through a lot of bad videos to get to the few good ones.

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Before we make any judgments on how effective this feature actually is, we should see if it actually works as intended. There is no way to get around the additional bandwidth required for streaming gameplay, and I suspect only those with exceptional amounts of upload bandwidth will be able to successfully use this feature without it affecting their game.

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> > I dont find it necessary, and honestly, I think that BLOPS2 can do it due to it’s engine. Same reason as to why you can view killcams in that game due to the constant game recording.
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> > However, live streaming takes a toll on your internet speed. If your connection doesn’t have at least a 4mb/s upload speed, forget it. Even then, your game will be laggy, and you’ll find yourself missing shots.
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> > When you put in the extra hardware to your PC, you’re able to adjust quality, bitrate, and many other aspects.
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> > And in all honesty, if EVERYBODY had the option to live stream, we’d see thousands of streams available, which is an absolute waste. If you’re not a solid well-known player, people aren’t going to sit on their computers and watch you play.
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> > That’s why the pros can afford to set up their live stream with solid equipment, purchase a high-speed connection, and bring in a hundred viewers.
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> > Experience: I live stream on Twitch.tv using AverMedia Game Broadcaster HD through Xsplit.
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> Yeah, but the reason they get so popular is because they are the only ones. People are intimidated by buying high end tools to do livestreams and stuff, and if the tools are given to you for free in a game, it would allow people to enter that arena. That’s the whole point for Tryarch adding it in.

Well, they get popular because they’re professional players and high-ranked GameBattles or Arena players. Trust me, there’s plenty of people streaming that no one has heard of, and thus, they have zero viewers. You can see a bunch of them right now.

Now, if everyone had the opportunity to stream, we’d have thousands of streams full of zero viewers, and the people who WILL have viewers will be the same people who already stream.

I understand what you’re getting at, making it easier and everything, but it’s just simply a feature that shouldn’t be given to everybody. If they cannot afford a $100 capture card, they probably do not have the connection to live stream high-quality gameplay.

> Before we make any judgments on how effective this feature actually is, we should see if it actually works as intended. There is no way to get around the additional bandwidth required for streaming gameplay, and I suspect only those with exceptional amounts of upload bandwidth will be able to successfully use this feature without it affecting their game.

Allow me to demonstrate my equipment/experience on this matter:

I currently have a connection with a 28mb/s download, 4.5mb/s upload speed.

My modem is DOCSIS 3.0 compatible. I split my 1920x1080 VGA video connection through a StarTech 2 Port High Resolution VGA Splitter with signal booster capable of handling up to 2048x1536 resolution. I use high-quality 3-foot shielded VGA cables capable of handling a much higher resolution.

I have my video going into my desktop computer through an AverMedia Game Broadcaster HD capture card. My PC’s quad-core processor runs at 3.5Ghz. I then run my live stream through Xsplit and then it goes to my Twitch.tv channel.

I am JUST able to put out 720p quality without experience lag in-game, and that is as long as no one else is doing things on my connection.

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I would be pleased if we had these types of features for Lan only.

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I dont see why not.

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> Some people take video games so seriously.

Because they want to stream a game ok then

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> Some people take video games so seriously.

lolwut?

You have 900 posts on a video game forum

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This is what will happen if we give children ability to stream easily.

That and some of the worst lag spikes you’ll ever see.