- Give us match/performance-based XP as the primary source of XP.
- Armor coatings should be PATTERNS, with colors unlocked and usable by default like the last 20 years.
- Armor coatings should be usable on every core.
- Cross-core customization.
- $20 for an armor set?! What?
- Needlessly restrictive customization. We shouldn’t need “armor kits,” we should just be able to unlock the individual pieces. You know, like in Reach? This system is a joke.
- No collision option in custom games. You can collide with enemies, but you can no longer jump on players’ heads. You just slide off. This bothers me as a longtime Halo player; think of the custom games you can’t play as a result of this.
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- Marine level bots feel a little too capable compared to the flights, should either be nerfed, or players should be given the ability to filter bot difficulty in matcmaking.
- The Customization system, while in-depth, relies too heavily on microtransactions.
- The Armor-Cores and coatings, while a good feature on paper, are too restrictive in their current state and further lend themselves to heavy micro-transaction focused progression.
- the progression system itself is abysmally slow, I had to grind for over 2 hours to get a single level.
- Total lack of many staple game-types, including infection, I get that it’s a ‘Beta’, but it’s not an excuse to make the game incomplete
- I would very much like to see firefight return, as I enjoy PVE content.
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Some sort of “Hey you played this, and this, and this Halo! Congrats, here’s a reward!”
match/performance-based EXP is a must. Just bring back Reach’s progression system, like seriously at the very least.
Forge!
and OP hit the rest of the major things.
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Everything Sceptius said, 100%. My only personal contribution-
- Buff the battle rifle slightly, maybe fire rate and/or scope range? Right now it has a slower TTK than the AR, Commando, and Pistol, so in casual games where you start with AR and Pistol picking up a BR feels almost pointless.
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I’ve posted a thesis worth of a rant on the forums if you’re willing to check it out. It’s quite a doozy.
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Let me start by saying I am enjoying the gameplay so far. I haven’t had a game I can just sit down and enjoy by myself for awhile. but its far from perfect but its not anywhere near awful either. I have a few points that definitely should be looked into. So I hope this will be taken into serious thought.
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Ranking System
Its should be no surprise that this is my number one spot. The game definitely needs one and I’m not talking silly SR1,2,3…etc ranks I’m talking proper ranks like FNJ, Private, LCpl, Cpl, Sgt… etc. The Battle pass is not a ranking system, I repeat not. A ranking system is there for players to feel good about their time playing the game and to show off the amount of time they have put into the game. The game has already been about a day and I have a friend who has finished the battle pass as he paid to finish it… thats fine but now he will lord it over people as he has the best stuff. If there was a ranking system in play, you can part the pay to win players from the hard working ones and you don’t even need to add rewards to each ranking. just having the rank is something to work towards in itself. Its not exactly rewarding finishing games at the moment and only earning exp from challenges as to me that’s just not enough. In some games where I get 25 kills and 10 deaths I feel great until I realise it doesn’t mean anything as it did go towards anything. -
Weapons Tuning
The weapons are great, the UNSC weapons look amazing, feel good to use and sound good to fire… the only issue is they don’t do enough damage and not just the unsc weapons.
The Battle Rifle 75 takes forever to takes shields down, it should be a 4 bursts to the head not 5.
The MA40 Assault Rifle feels good but its damage fall off feels like its a bit sudden.
The M41 SPNKR needs abit more AOE radius and AOE Damage. I have shot many rockets near the enemies and never does it seem to cause any damage, I find it hard to believe a rocket exploding near someone isn’t even causing shield damage.
The bulldog is good, i actually find it very balanced for a Semi-Auto Shotgun, I does sadden me not to see a return of the classic pump action shotgun but I’m sure you’ll add it in the future.
The Sniper Rifle again feels balanced as it still the classic one to the head, two to the body.
The MK50 Sidekick now does have an issue with the HUD Iron sight as even when the shields on my enemy are broken and I’m aiming at the head, I seem to be firing three or four shots to finish them and I assume that they are hitting the body. I feel its accuracy needs tweaking.
The VK78 Commando needs its damage output slightly raised as I am finding it rather slow at taking down shields. I find its a very slow weapon to kill with.
The MLRS - 2 Hydra is not worth grabbing. The Claim that its a power weapon is laughable as it does not do enough damage. its slow rate of fire and low damage output gets me out gunned by MA40s and MK50 Sidekicks all the time.
I would add my thoughts on the banished weapons but I have found no reason to use them, I have picked them up from time to time but they too often have low damage output or slow rates of fire. I find there is no reason to switch out my MA40 and MK50 for any other guns as these two seem to be the only two worth using if you want to win the matches.
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Earning Experience
Now I know this kind of ties in to the ranking system I talk about but at the same time for the battle pass does not feel rewarding enough. take OG Halo reach and MCC at the end of a match you are flooded with your experience, with it showing you what you earned, how you earned and how much CR or Exp you unlocked from that match. It made the player feel good and made them feel a drive to keep playing for another match or two or three into the late hours of the night and early hours of the morning. But after a match on Infinite at the moment, the match ends, im brought to a screen with my match stats and If I am lucky I might get shown my progress to a challenge that I need to actually get any Exp and with some of the challenges being locked into certain game modes brings me onto my next point. -
Game modes
I don’t understand why all the game modes are bunched into three playlists. In 4v4 quick play I find myself playing Odd ball… alot… and I don’t really like odd ball as it take me away from the game.
I personally love playing Slayer or BTB and I actually love all the BTB modes but when I want to do a challenge for strongholds and its a 1/10 chance ill get that game mode… its really frustrating.
I’m sure there are a few other things I had I wanted to bring up but for now I feel this is a good chunk of feedback for now.
I really do hope this gets seen and read and most importantly considered.
My final note will be that if anyone these are to be sorted, I feel 1 and 2 should be first as a ranking system and weapon tuning should be key to any game
4 Likes
We need to have the ability to select which game type we want to play in social playlists and in ranked …. Team slayer playlist, rumble playlist, btb, obj, etc. this is something that has always been in halo and needs to be in this one too.
3 Likes
-Gameplay is awesome
-I love the maps
-Either give us “per match” XP or extremely increase the amount of XP we get from challenges
-let us earn currency in game
-90% of the free rewards for non paying players are literally just “challenge swaps”. Non paying players are NOT going to keep playing if the only rewards they’re getting is something that helps them earn XP to get to the next level just to get the SAME reward again.
3 Likes
not buff the BR, nerf slightly the AR and Sidekick. The BR has a really simular TTK like in Halo 3, wich is a really good TTK. Otherwise the TTK will be too short and than it feels less like Halo and more like CoD or some stuff.
My suggestion is in regards to btb and playing with friends. I think it’s confusing how if you load into a match with friends in your fire team you don’t play as a fire team within the game/
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- The progression system just doesn’t work, it’s too slow, doesn’t really reward good play, and encourages a severe toxic attitude. I know you have to work on the prizes, but it is not rewarding to spend 3 hours playing and not having reached level 5 of the battle pass. It is not a fair system.
- The number of maps is low, they are very good maps and they are really well balanced and with a beautiful visual style, but they are few for what should be a base content.
- The challenges are WRONG, they do not have a logical approach, or they are very easy, or they are Mint Blitz level. I support that the challenges should be easy or have a middle point, but perhaps they should be rethought and above all, and most importantly, be able to be done in the VS bots mode to avoid that it harms the social games or the ranked games.
If you allow all, ALL CHALLENGES, to be performed against the bots it helps to relieve the pressure of the players, and you allow that who wants to focus only on challenges not to harm the game of other players.
- The shop is out of balance, I see fair the prices of the coins, but the price of armor sets in some cases is simply prohibitive. You have to try to find a balance in some way.
- The challenges, apart from giving exp, should grant rewards in coins from the store. I see the system that Gears 5 uses as the perfect challenge system, it helps you by giving you rewards, and it also contributes to the season’s battle pass.
- There are many game modes missing, this is very serious, but also a game mode selector is missing. I think the latter is done on purpose to encourage certain game modes and gather feedback, but if so, 343i should say so openly.
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BR is a 4 shot kill, it’s usually 5 unless you get a perfect
Gameplay:
Excellent for the most part. I’m really enjoying this more classic feeling and so far havent found any glaring issues with it. I will for sure post any when I have more time in game.
Progression:
Yeah, this ain’t chief. I would suggest a potential increase of xp with each challenge, decrease in xp required to level up, changing the PLAY A GAME challenge to remain at 1 game needed and Xp from medals/kills.
Currently it is so slow. Also add more challenges for basic kills etc.
Gamemodes:
Where are they? Where’s modes like infection, Swat, Free for all etc?
Why are there only 3 playlists?
I would like to be able to choice what game mode I play. Just use the MCC style model, that game’s match composer is excellent. Also, the hopper in matchmaking seems really weighted for oddball/CFT. That might just be me though. P.s I want to play swat with the new BR Plz.
Missing Reach/Mark VII Armour pieces:
Where are all the Mark V and Mark VII armours shown in the trailers? Even the new one we got yesterday. Just seems odd. If you use the waypoint app you can view all these armours.
(Bit of speculation, but they might be added on the December 8th Launch or in the Shop.
Armour cores:
Why are the coatings limited to one core and not all?
The armour pieces like helmets, shoulder pads, knee pads, gloves, visors and wrist attachments should all be cross core. I understand keeping fracture armour seperate but Mark VII and Mark V should be able to be combined. After all if customization is a massive thing in this game, make it as good as possible. Armour kits not being changable are also a no no for me
Prices:
Yeah, the shop prices for kits and armour is just too much. Thats it.
Hopefully this all gets addressed relatively soon.
3 Likes
- Battle pass being entirely worthless and unrewarding, forcing payment
- No way to earn in game currency
- Overall customization being overly redundant, limiting, and used for complete use of microtransactions
- Weapon redundancy in the sandbox
- Slow progression
- Overpriced everything
- No reason to come back and play the game
2 Likes
1 - Battle Pass progression needs traditional XP, challenges are terrible and it is taking too long to level up.
2 - Battle Pass should include more free items
3 - Battle Pass should have 2-5 currency drops per season, other games do this and it’s a pretty good bonus. Save up to buy another pass or save and buy items from the store.
4 - Player Collision needs to come back, having a whole team camp a corner in Oddball, or when infection drops. Missing out on some fun plays which collision brings and overall it just ruins the immersion.
5 - Big Team Battle just feels like Arena with more players now. Played a couple of games but ultimately never saw a heavy vehicle spawn and only saw one Wasp in the games I played. Goes against what Big Team Battle always was, at this point it’s better to stick to Arena.
6 - More maps, urgently
7 - A normal player progression system i.e. Halo 3/Reach. Have this also bring some cosmetics woth it so thoughs who don’t want a Battle Pass can aim for something.
8 - A clan system
8.5 - Custom clan emblem which shows on a round intro if you’re in a full clan squad, be great for ranked mode!
9 - Custom emblems, get creative!
10 - Leaderboards
That’s all I can think for now but I’m sure more will come to mind the more I play.
5 Likes
-Electric grenade either needs a range or a damage nerf
-AR still feels too strong and outguns most things in the sandbox unless you’re at sniper range
-Every gun outside of the Commando, Sniper Rifle, AR, Battle Rifle, Shock Rifle, Pistol, Bulldog, and Rockets feels too weak. As an example, if I pick up the heatwave I have zero confidence that it’ll outgun anyone I run into
-BTB needs BR starts or less people. It’s just an insane cluster right now and if you spawn in the open you’re screwed
-The maps aren’t very interesting
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BR starts in BTB
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Asymmetrical game types in BTB
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Heavy vehicles need to be brought in quicker
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SPNKr needs a lock on for air targets
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Shorter respawn time
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Regional server selection across all match making
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Cross play option in all playlists including social.
4 Likes
Customization Feedback
- ALL the chest armor is grey. It’s one thing for small attachments or ammo pouches, but chests that cover the whole torso should take the primary color of the coating.
- Armor Coatings should be universal, not per core. We should not need to unlock or buy Coatings multiple times or lose our collection each time a new core is added. Coatings should also not be limited by core.
- Armor should also be cross-core, even more so seeing as bots have the ability, yet players do not.
- The store prices are outrageous. $20 for one armor set? $10 for a helmet? $15 for blue vehicles?
Gameplay Feedback
- Match/Performance XP is a must. Increasing the challenge XP and making the daily "complete 1 match* permanent with a bigger payout could be a good short fix. But this needs to be top priority.
- Random spawning for BTB vehicles can feel unbalanced. Certain vehicles like the Scorpion and Wraith never spawn. This random spawning compounds the challenge issues even more.
- Upcoming challenges should not be a thing. Let all 20 be active at the same time. I completed the Skewer challenge, but got nothing since it was still part of the “Upcoming” section. It forces players to only play the way challenges dictate them to.
- The amount of challenge swaps in the pass is nuts. of the 100 items, about 40% is challenge swaps? That seems extremely high, free or not.
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Need to be able to matchmake by mode to allow players to play the modes they like and to make completing mode specific challenges less annoying.
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Gameplay
- BTB is just Arena on a bigger map. Where’s the freakin’ vehicles?
- player collision
- assassinations
Progression
- needs more value in the free pass
- earn xp for medals, matches
- currency drops (or just more ways to earn currency in general)
- shop is outrageously expensive
- true ranking system (see @Somnus094’s post)
- allow challenges to be performed against bots (per @Imon_Spartan’s post)
Game modes
- More options, and the ability to choose what you want to play
- infection/swat/grifball/FFA/etc?
- firefight plz?
Misc
- clans/spartan companies (ability to have a clan emblem on armour?) (good idea @SynysterCraig91!)
- customization is garbage. all coatings/armour pieces should be universal, and not locked to core
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