LIST OF HALO 4 SHORTCOMINGS, PLEASE FIX THESE

FOUND THIS ON REDDIT, AND IT HAS SOME VERY VALID POINTS. WHILE I FIND HALO 4 TO BE AWESOME, IT SURE COULD USE SOME CHANGES. ESPECIALLY THE POINTS BROUGHT UP FOR CUSTOM GAMES AND FORGE.
Also, if you wish to see this list in a more organized format, heres the original link:
http://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/12zhkg/a_comprehensive_list_of_halo_4s_shortcomings/

I’m attempting to make a list of all things missing or downgraded in Halo 4 compared to previous Halo games. Unfortunately it’s a long list, and to be honest I’m scratching my head at why they removed so many things. I don’t think this is everything, so if you see something not on here or I got something wrong, I can remove/add it.

[Update] I’ve added links to clarify on why some of these issues are on the list.

General

You can only be on 4 teams(compared to 8 in previous games). This was incorrect.
You can’t view the campaign terminals ingame; you must go to waypoint.
Can’t hold the back button and move around at the same time.
Scrolling through players in the scoreboard is more difficult. Instead of holding back and using the right analog stick to move through them, you must use the d-pad. See here
The indicators for your teammates’ statuses aren’t as clear as they used to be. Teammates no longer show an X over their corpse. You can no longer tell if a teammate is shooting(yellow in previous games). When a teammate is being shot, their arrow flashes red faintly(compared to a strong orange in previous games).
[Added] Can’t view which secondary weapon you’re holding. See here
[Added] No longer shows an icon ingame to indicate who is talking.

Custom Games

Removed the ability to make any variant of CTF other than Multi-flag CTF. This means 1-Flag and Neutral Flag don’t exist anymore. I don’t think you can trick forge into getting them to work either, since 1-Flag needs the round to reset after a flag capture, and CTF will not spawn a flag marked as ‘neutral’ unless there is someone on a ‘neutral’ team.
Can’t make it so you can drop the flag.
Can’t disable sprint. See here
Can’t turn off/on instant-respawn. It’s off in CTF and Dominion, but is on in most(all?) other gametypes.
Respawn time is a mostly irrelevant setting with instant respawn time not being toggle-able.
Can’t modify CTF to have to hold a button to pick up the flag.
Can’t make assault how it used to be. If you use Grifball to make Assault, then you are able to throw the bomb around. You can play assault by swapping the flag capture points around, but that requires making a map specifically for “assault”.
Removed Race, Territories, Stockpile, Headhunter, and Juggernaut. Some of these were removed because of redundance, but other than for territories, you can’t make anything like them anymore. You can’t make stockpile at all. You can’t make headhunter at all. You can’t make Juggernaut how it used to be. You can rig together a race gametype using KotH.
Can’t modify Flood in any meaningful way. The flood are required to have their three base loadouts with thruster pack, promethean vision, and invis. They cannot use any weapons other than the flood sword.
Except for slayer, you can’t modify how many points you get for doing certain things. For example, you can’t set it so that kills count for points in a CTF game.
[Added] Weapons you place down on the map physically(without using the ordnance system) won’t show up in some gametypes(slayer pro, infection), but they’ll show up in others(infinity slayer, CTF). There is also no option to turn the ‘weapons on map’ setting on/off, unless you’re messing with initial ordnance.
[Added] Can no longer create your own power-ups.
[Added] When setting extra points for a headshot kill in a slayer gametype, sniper headshots will not count for the extra points.
[Added] Can no longer change the oddball scoring mechanic.

Forge

Can’t use precision moving anymore(pushing the left thumbstick down in Reach)
Can’t zoom in anymore.
When placing objects inside/near walls on Ravine(possibly on other maps), it will push the objects away, even when using coordinate editing.
When using magnets to align objects, sometimes the objects will not align properly and there will be a small but noticeable bump between them.
You can set objects to belong to teams 5 through 8, but those teams do not exist.
You can set objectives to belong to a neutral team, but no gametypes support it.
You can set ‘symmetry=true/false’ on objects, but there are no asymmetric gametypes.
[Added] Magnets can’t snap to angles.
[Added] The ‘reloading shift glitch’ was not fixed. See here

Theater

You cannot view campaign or spartan ops replays.
[Added] Unable to view replays with friends.
[Added] In film clips, the announcer can no longer be heard(somtimes? Conflicting reports).

Split-screen

Bad framerate lag on half of the maps, specifically Complex, Meltdown, Vortex, Exile, and Relay(not in matchmaking). Any map made entirely of forge pieces or uses a decent bit of forge pieces lags considerably in split-screen. The pre-made maps for Erosion and Ravine do not seem to lag.
The HUD is cluttered. In CTF, it still shows how far away you are from the flag. The icons that mark objectives are the same size as they are in full-screen. Icons for initial ordnance are the same size as they are in full-screen. Weapon reticles are the same size as they are in full-screen(even in 4-player split-screen). The icons for objectives never leave your screen; this means in Dominion, you always have all three points’ icons on your screen. Medal names and how many points they’re worth still show up.
Plasma grenades do not glow until you are very close to them.
[Added] In Spartan Ops, it won’t let you view the week’s episode claiming that you can’t go in theater mode in split-screen.

Campaign(No spoilers)

[Added] Removed point scoring. As a result, the timer was also removed(used for speed runs).

Matchmaking

[Added] Can’t search for matches based on best connection(international players being matched with the US playerbase).

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All very true. I noticed most of these things.

Pretty well compiled list; best of all, there’s nothing there about weapons being OP (yay!).

I will point out though, that if you did a similar list for other games (such as Battlefield 3), that this list would be pages long…even now, over a year after release.

agree with all of this

> agree with all of this

You can’t agree or disagree here. They’re facts. The game is either lacking in these areas, or there is a problem that is seen.

Yes to everything. This list NEEDS to be seen!

Add “Lack of Audio Settings” to the list. Currently, you can’t change the settings between dialogue, effects, and music volumes. This is unfortunate because I think the soundtrack is great, but for the majority of the game, the soundtrack is drowned out by other sound effects(bullets, explosions, Chief’s feet stomping the ground). How will the soundtrack be memorable if we can’t hear it?

I hate running out of ammo.

I hate how weapons disappear very quickly. If I have the sniper, get killed, and no one picks it up, I want to go back and get it!

If people can steal my ordinances, then I should be able to betray them and get my damn gun back! Just don’t allow it at all is what I think.

I feel like the radar isn’t as accurate as Reach’s radar. Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t seem to gauge distance around corners, etc. as well.

Today, I got put into a big team game that ended after I took literally 4 steps. THAT is crap.

Service record should show K/D ratio also.

Others: When getting shot, you slow down WAY too much.
Grenades just suck.
The BR and Sniper sound so weak. Beef up the sound!

Agree with everything else on this list!

2v2 needs to come back. 2v2 is essential for serious players. it’s probably the most technical way to play the game. Also, clans should return. I know it’s been discussed over and over again through the years, but the thing that truly makes Halo awesome, is when you’re in a game full of comradery. Nothing beats being in an exclusive club. Just ask a Skull and Bones members. Also, maps. Im tired of playing the same three maps on Slayer. You gotta bring classics back. The original Lockout, Guardian, Zanzibar, Breakneck, Collosus, Waterworks, Boarding Action. Though it would be cool to see, I also understand that some retros just won’t work due to new playing mechanics. All that said, Halo 4, to me, is the best Halo to date. All the issues stated above should be taken into account though. Especially the player icon issues, the ammo issues (I’m always running out of ammo, with none in sight), no secondary weapon icon, and the sound on some of the weapons is WEAKKK. I can’t say it enough though, this game is the -Yoink-. 343i killed it.

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> If people can steal my ordinances, then I should be able to betray them and get my damn gun back! Just don’t allow it at all is what I think.

Friggin hate this.
I think if a team mate does this, it should count as a betrayal.

But then you can’t share around ordinances… hrmm…

-Can’t map your own controls like other FPS’s
-The HUD is barely visible
-Friendly Fire is making Spartan-Ops a sack of crap
-The XP cap
-Can’t tune the X and Y axes of aiming

PLEASE FIX THESE THINGS

  1. Promethean Vision is a horrible idea, at least make it so that if Im crouching I cannot be seen or make it have a reeeeaaallly long charge time.

2)Wall glitches, The other team had 1 kill we had 0 they glitched into the wall and won

Everything on the list is true please fix these 343

> > If people can steal my ordinances, then I should be able to betray them and get my damn gun back! Just don’t allow it at all is what I think.
>
> Friggin hate this.
> I think if a team mate does this, it should count as a betrayal.
> But then you can’t share around ordinances… hrmm…

Yeah, I would like to be able to share it if I wanted to, but not have it stolen. Because sometimes you get one where nothing in it looks good, and you just want to get rid of it. Maybe if you could call it in, and then have the option to “press x to reject/share” or something like that. Only then would a teammate be able to pick it up. At least they did make it where it takes a little longer for someone else to pick it up?
Also, the no scoring on campaign thing. I really miss that. It was nice to toss a grenade down a hall, or hang back and spam a cluster of enemies with a Wraith or Scorpion and be able to tell that you had killed somebody when the points popped up onscreen.

Wow a legit list of small things that should be fixed. I’m impressed and I support. This just isn’t a qq thread, it’s actually legit.

P.S. Please add not being able to drop a flag on the list. As well as automatically picking it up. If I’m in a firefight at the enemy base and run into the flag I’m essentially screwed. I can drop it for one and I never wanted to pick it up in the first place. Please at the very least allow us to drop flags.

Something to add: Current objective is not visible in the pause menu of campaign.

Sprint meter is not visible.

I’ll add more later.

-Stickies go through people
-Abandon is rigged for Blue on CTF
-Join in progress is a godawful feature
-No doubles, assault
-Instant Respawn
-Spartan Ops lags just like firefight
-Menu music is SOOOO loud compared to game sounds

Edit again:
I hate the fact that if you walk into someone it pushes them so much more now, it’s soooooooo irritating. It was never to this extent but now it’s ridiculous and this feature needs to be lessened like the other Halo’s were

Agreed.

BUMP BECAUSE 343 NEEDS TO SEE THIS.

Bumping thread for Halo 4 justice. 343 needs to quit ignoring fans and fix this game.