7sk Magnum
11sk Plasma Pistol
2sk BS(or some other sidearm)
Automatics( w/bloom)
14sk AR
13sk SR
16sk Suppessor
This is all just my opinion but to me the DMR is really holding this game back along with the extreme amount of aim assist and bullet magnetism. What do you guys think. I kinda want to know how you guys want the weapons to be balanced.
The kill times in this game are already fast enough. None of the weapons need a damage buff. Also as far as precisions go each rifle has the same magnitism bar the carbine. It has slightly more. As far as aim assist goes i’d say it falls in between halo 2 and halo reach. No where near as much as halo 2 but a tad more then reach.
I have no problem with the DMR. I see it as a beginners rifle. I dislike how often i see it. But you know how the gaming community is. People want to find the easiest way to do good. So when people get fired up about rumors over saturation of items begins to happen. In halo 4 we don’t have a best weapon (statistically yes but not in game) unlike halo reach 2 and 3 where there was a broken sandbox.
Anyway i went off on a rant. Bottom line i don’t think the DMR is holding back. I find the weapons to be balanced.
> The kill times in this game are already fast enough. None of the weapons need a damage buff. Also as far as precisions go each rifle has the same magnitism bar the carbine. It has slightly more. As far as aim assist goes i’d say it falls in between halo 2 and halo reach. No where near as much as halo 2 but a tad more then reach.
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> I have no problem with the DMR. <mark>I see it as a beginners rifle.</mark> I dislike how often i see it. But you know how the gaming community is. People want to find the easiest way to do good. So when people get fired up about rumors over saturation of items begins to happen. In halo 4 we don’t have a best weapon (statistically yes but not in game) unlike halo reach 2 and 3 where there was a broken sandbox.
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> Anyway i went off on a rant. Bottom line i don’t think the DMR is holding back. I find the weapons to be balanced.
No rifle should be a beginners rifle. But going by this logic, why would a beginners rifle be the most powerful rifle in the game?
> > The kill times in this game are already fast enough. None of the weapons need a damage buff. Also as far as precisions go each rifle has the same magnitism bar the carbine. It has slightly more. As far as aim assist goes i’d say it falls in between halo 2 and halo reach. No where near as much as halo 2 but a tad more then reach.
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> > I have no problem with the DMR. <mark>I see it as a beginners rifle.</mark> I dislike how often i see it. But you know how the gaming community is. People want to find the easiest way to do good. So when people get fired up about rumors over saturation of items begins to happen. In halo 4 we don’t have a best weapon (statistically yes but not in game) unlike halo reach 2 and 3 where there was a broken sandbox.
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> > Anyway i went off on a rant. Bottom line i don’t think the DMR is holding back. I find the weapons to be balanced.
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> No rifle should be a beginners rifle. But going by this logic, why would a beginners rifle be the most powerful rifle in the game?
Perhaps you should choose better words. Because the most powerful is the scoped LR. If there shouldn’t be a beginners rifle then your basically saying halo 2 3 and reach were wrong. the BR in 2 and 3 and the DMR in reach were utility weapons or what i call beginner rifles. In this game the DMR is the utility weapon.
The DMR does OK in all ranges. Thats how its designed.
The BR is good in medium and close. designed that way.
LR is good in long range. designed that way.
See what i’m getting at? Player skill matters more then the gun that’s why I can beat DMR’s with my BR all the time because i have higher then average skill. Players with equal skill depend more on how the gun was designed.
I’m getting off track again. The DMR isn’t the best weapon in game.
> 3sk pistol in CE would greatly compare to a 3sk tweaked Scoped light Rifle
If you don’t have a weapon that kills in 3 shots, whats your problem about the DMR killing in 5?
Its almost as if you hate the DMR, your only solution is “get rid of it, its holding the game back”.
If you buff the Light Rifle, everyone would take it as its just as powerful as the BR in close range and is more efficient at long range as the DMR, only reason the DMR is more powerful is that its easier to use.
All the DMR needs is a nerf in the aim assist and bullet magnetism department, no need to get rid of it.
If the DMR wasn’t in Halo 4, it would be damn fine game. If the DMR was removed, but every other ladout weapon was left the way it is right now, I would be very happy.
Why get rid of the DMR entirely? It, along, with the LR, should be made as on-map weapons instead of loadout weapons because of their superior range to the BR and such.
This would also encourage people to start learning where you can find weapons on the map again (IF the DMR isn’t a lolordnancedrop).
> > > The kill times in this game are already fast enough. None of the weapons need a damage buff. Also as far as precisions go each rifle has the same magnitism bar the carbine. It has slightly more. As far as aim assist goes i’d say it falls in between halo 2 and halo reach. No where near as much as halo 2 but a tad more then reach.
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> > > I have no problem with the DMR. <mark>I see it as a beginners rifle.</mark> I dislike how often i see it. But you know how the gaming community is. People want to find the easiest way to do good. So when people get fired up about rumors over saturation of items begins to happen. In halo 4 we don’t have a best weapon (statistically yes but not in game) unlike halo reach 2 and 3 where there was a broken sandbox.
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> > > Anyway i went off on a rant. Bottom line i don’t think the DMR is holding back. I find the weapons to be balanced.
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> > No rifle should be a beginners rifle. But going by this logic, why would a beginners rifle be the most powerful rifle in the game?
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> Perhaps you should choose better words. Because the most powerful is the scoped LR. If there shouldn’t be a beginners rifle then your basically saying halo 2 3 and reach were wrong. the BR in 2 and 3 and the DMR in reach were utility weapons or what i call beginner rifles. In this game the DMR is the utility weapon.
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> <mark>The DMR does OK in all ranges. Thats how its designed.</mark>
> <mark>The BR is good in medium and close. designed that way.</mark>
> <mark>LR is good in long range. designed that way.</mark>
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> See what i’m getting at? Player skill matters more then the gun that’s why I can beat DMR’s with my BR all the time because i have higher then average skill. Players with equal skill depend more on how the gun was designed.
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> I’m getting off track again. The DMR isn’t the best weapon in game.
You have it all twisted and turned. A utility weapon is a precision weapon designed for headshots, that require more effort than automatics. There never was a beginners rifle. And in the highlighted take that and apply what im about to say here. If a weapon could be used outside of its niche to destroy a weapon in its intended niche, is there something wrong? Yes there is, because a DMR can destroy a BR,AR,LR(scoped) all in their intended niche, why? Because it was made into an All-purpose, easy to use rifle that overshadows the LRs scoped ability.
> > 3sk pistol in CE would greatly compare to a 3sk tweaked Scoped light Rifle
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> If you don’t have a weapon that kills in 3 shots, whats your problem about the DMR killing in 5?
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> Its almost as if you hate the DMR, your only solution is “get rid of it, its holding the game back”.
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> If you buff the Light Rifle, everyone would take it as its just as powerful as the BR in close range and is more efficient at long range as the DMR, only reason the DMR is more powerful is that its easier to use.
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> All the DMR needs is a nerf in the aim assist and bullet magnetism department, no need to get rid of it.
My problem with the DMR is that its not needed. It has the most range out of any starting rifle and has high ROF combined with flinch makes it extremely frustrating.
Why not just get rid of Promethean weapons, they are terrible anyways. Boltshot is still OP personally, Lightrifle sucks, and Suppressor is lame. Plus the pulse grenade is a joke. I would much rather keep the DMR and get rid of Promy weapons
> Why not just get rid of Promethean weapons, they are terrible anyways. Boltshot is still OP personally, Lightrifle sucks, and Suppressor is lame. Plus the pulse grenade is a joke. I would much rather keep the DMR and get rid of Promy weapons
The Light Rifle and Suppressor are the best in their class. And the Boltshot provides a nice middle ground between the Shotgun and automatics as a pickup.
> Why not just get rid of Promethean weapons, they are terrible anyways. Boltshot is still OP personally, Lightrifle sucks, and Suppressor is lame. Plus the pulse grenade is a joke. I would much rather keep the DMR and get rid of Promy weapons
DMR on BTB maps makes Halo 4 horribly boring. Play Ragnarok and it’s just DMRs everywhere.
BR and carbine are fine and the LR is much harder to use than the DMR. DMR has a lot of aim assist, the best range of all the starter weapons, a faster fire rate than LR and IMHO makes the game really boring.
BR and carbine with LR as a map pickup would be interesting, with the DMR being removed outright. I simply hate the campy, long-range gameplay it promotes.
Halo starter weapons should only offer close-mid range capabilities, not cross-map. The DMR is a mini-sniper.
Plus all the precision weapons have too much aim assist. A lot to change for Halo 5 if they want to design it competitively, but after that wheelchair spartan I have a feeling 343i are going to make Halo 5 even easier to play. More aim assist and DMRs.
Haha yes my fave weapon is the DMR, it is powerful, yet you will also see I have a lot of AR kills and BR kills as well. In fact I just hit 6/7 for both the BR and DMR.
Lol the AR is far better than the suppressor now, and since day 1, it has more range and not only affects shields, but also health. Can’t say too much about the LR, only really use it in Light Flag. But really…if the BR and DMR werent good, than so many people wouldnt use them the most. Just saying. And the Boltshot is OP still, sure range was supposedly decreased, but it is still OP.