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I think that there are 2 major problems with the nature of these forums that prevent 343 from doing anything about what we have to say.

Sensationalizing and lack of objectivity. When someone has a problem with something they tend to claim the extreme, that is its godmod or completely broken. The lack of objectivity generally degenerates into disagreements and insults. An extreme view I think is caused by the need to be heard, which counters the true goal, a fix.

Population segmentation and disagreement. If everyone on this forum got what they wanted (excluding the contradictions) then every single thing in halo 4 would be reworked, and that is impossible.

I think, we as a community, should focus our beam a little, and agree just what that beam is.

This will be a two part process. If the final product can get a significant number of bumps and favorites (a later post) they might just listen. I for one am willing to put the effort in to build a better Halo.

I will first state some problems with placeholder suggestions. The first part, which this post will cover, is which single problem is the most concerning and a latter poll will determine how the community wants it fixed. For the sake of accomplishing our goals I will try and limit it to the major problems I have seen complained about the most and nothing that would require an undoable change to get fixed.

Please be objective with comments and think of it this way, if you could only change one thing. one SINGLE THING, what would it be, and remember the HOW TO FIX it will be worked on once we determine what it is that needs to be fixed.

bolt shot: ie to powerful for a loadout vs its range

DMR balance

flinch vs descoping

lack of custom game options

spawn problems (instant respawn and despawning weapons)

vehicle balance

join in progress

Camo: loadout vs ordinance.

Thruster pack: ie slightly longer jump or faster jump or both

kill cams

lack of search options (region/chatty/connection filters)

file share (lack of coherent system and ability to watch online)

Random ordinance vs weapons on map

social vs ranked playlists

If you have other ideas I haven’t mentioned, that you think are absolutely the one thing that should be fixed, add a comment.

The only reason I didn’t include visible rank is because 343 stated they are adding it, and until we see what they have done we cannot comment on how to fix it.

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A few options have been not added to my poll because of the 10 question limit, but I feel these are the most doable and biggest problems.

for all the defenders of 343 I would like to state I love halo 4, it might be my favorite halo to date, however, with anything it could be better. This is how I propose to make it better.

some missing items seem very important, ie custom game options and 1-50 rank, but I feel, having already the two largest threads on this site that 343 has already noticed them and will be doing something about it. I hope.

I will close this poll and move on after a week or 100 votes.

If you like this idea, please favorite, vote and bump for justice.

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Awesome post also a lot of ppl complain about SpartanOps missions mainly because they are using the same maps over and over again. I don’t hate what they are doing because to be honest I was expecting that to happen but it would be nice t have different areas t go to every episode.

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> Awesome post also a lot of ppl complain about SpartanOps missions mainly because they are using the same maps over and over again. I don’t hate what they are doing because to be honest I was expecting that to happen but it would be nice t have different areas t go to every episode.

I’ve read those complaints as well. I feel Spartan ops 3 and 4 have shown huge leaps forward and I’m still waiting to see how it all plays out. Also I don’t think the SpOps problems would get more attention than some of this other very basic problems, though I tend to agree with the map reuse, its not detrimental to the enjoyment of SpOps (for me at least)

If say, 10 people, complained that it was a bigger issue than the rest, I would happily remove the least voted for option and add it, as with any other suggestion. Things don’t get fixed right away so if I have to post a new poll 5 times to get to the real problem, I will.

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> Awesome post also a lot of ppl complain about SpartanOps missions mainly because they are using the same maps over and over again. I don’t hate what they are doing because to be honest I was expecting that to happen but it would be nice t have different areas t go to every episode.

That is one thing I actually like about SpOps, though maybe im the minority. First off using a map from campaign or war games lets them roll out episodes every week. I’m a software developer, not for video games but still I would assume it would take a lot more to create 5 brand new maps every week for SpOps. And second, when I do Spartan Ops I like when its a map I am familiar with. I was just thinking this last night as a matter of fact. Im so used to running around these maps in war games going after enemy spartans, its a nice change of pace to run through the same area picking off covies and promethians.

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> > Awesome post also a lot of ppl complain about SpartanOps missions mainly because they are using the same maps over and over again. I don’t hate what they are doing because to be honest I was expecting that to happen but it would be nice t have different areas t go to every episode.
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> That is one thing I actually like about SpOps, though maybe im the minority. First off using a map from campaign or war games lets them roll out episodes every week. I’m a software developer, not for video games but still I would assume it would take a lot more to create 5 brand new maps every week for SpOps. And second, when I do Spartan Ops I like when its a map I am familiar with. I was just thinking this last night as a matter of fact. Im so used to running around these maps in war games going after enemy spartans, its a nice change of pace to run through the same area picking off covies and promethians.

I understand the constrants placed on a weekly push like this and the need to rehash maps, another reason I didn’t include it. Why not vote and favorite up bud?

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I dont think 343 is going to change anything based on Mass Hysteria in the forums. Thats not how a forum should work. A forum should be a suggestion box. We, the game players, find a problem that we would like fixed and we put a ticket in the box. Some tickets are more elegant than other, but the outcome is the same: 343 will tally the tickets and then takes their own action based what they think needs to be done.

Will they listen to people on the forum? Maybe, maybe not. Some people on this forum deserve to be listened to more than others due to their larger understanding of how the game should/shouldnt work. (Im not one of those people…) That dosent mean you stop posting, thats just as bad as. The posts that 343 find relevent will be read while the others will just be used as indicator becaons that something might need looked at.

I think the big problem right now is that the game was released a week before the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years holiday season. This is great for the game players, but not so much for the developers. I dont expect to see any truly hard work started till after the 343 team has celebrated the two remaining holidays with their friends and family.

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> I dont think 343 is going to change anything based on Mass Hysteria in the forums. Thats not how a forum should work. A forum should be a suggestion box. We, the game players, find a problem that we would like fixed and we put a ticket in the box. Some tickets are more elegant than other, but the outcome is the same: 343 will tally the tickets and then takes their own action based what they think needs to be done.
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> Will they listen to people on the forum? Maybe, maybe not. Some people on this forum deserve to be listened to more than others due to their larger understanding of how the game should/shouldnt work. (Im not one of those people…) That dosent mean you stop posting, thats just as bad as. The posts that 343 find relevent will be read while the others will just be used as indicator becaons that something might need looked at.
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> I think the big problem right now is that the game was released a week before the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years holiday season. This is great for the game players, but not so much for the developers. I dont expect to see any truly hard work started till after the 343 team has celebrated the two remaining holidays with their friends and family.

Hysteria is what I am trying to avoid with this post. This is just a well organized suggestion. I am trying to do 2 things. Make a large enough post with a central enough theme that 343 not only notices but has something easy to understand that very clearly points out something the majority of players want. A vote and a favorite will help.

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The large problems with posts like this is that if it is not created by 343 and stickied at the top, it has a 90% mortality rate. Mortality meaning being back-logged in the rest of the complaint threads and/or being hijacked by what you are trying to counter.

On topic, I voted for JIP. If i worked for 343 i would look for things to fix before i look for things to balance.

That leaves three big options: Servers, Forge, and JIP. Of the thee, JIP will cost less than servers, take less time than Forge, and effect more people over-all.

Once issues preventing people from playing the game are fixed, then you can start to look at balancing issues and requests for missing content.

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I’m surprised people vote for JIP when there’s a 1 second way of making sure you never JIP, even though it needs 1 second every time you do it.

I voted no regional/good connection. What happens when our connection suffers for no reason? :’(

To fix JIP, simply press start, go down to your ‘Network’ place, and switch from ‘Xbox Live’ to ‘My Xbox 360’ and wait for 1 second before switching back to stop JIP. To recognize JIP: If the playercards say ‘Incoming’ it isn’t JIP. If the playercards have their emblems and spartan armor already, its JIP.

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> To fix JIP, simply press start, go down to your ‘Network’ place, and switch from ‘Xbox Live’ to ‘My Xbox 360’ and wait for 1 second before switching back to stop JIP. To recognize JIP: If the playercards say ‘Incoming’ it isn’t JIP. If the playercards have their emblems and spartan armor already, its JIP.

But it should not require a hot fix in the first place.

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I voted for the spawn problems myself weapon despawning and instant spawn. JIP is in an of itself a good idea imo but it shouldn’t be implemented the way it is not. You should never start a game with less than a full party and then assume jip will fix it, that is just bad coding. And you should also never jip a game with 5 kills left or 30 seconds.

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if you take the time to vote please comment and favorite to help keep this going so we can get to the bottom of this

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Remove PV, it makes fastpaced Halo to a campfestival