I’m just gonna rip the band aid off here. We are NEVER and I mean NEVER getting a Halo game that feels 100% like the old games. It’s just not happening.
I’ve been playing Halo since Halo 2 and while I can look back on those games with fond memories, I now know for a fact after seeing the Halo Infinite reveal that it is never going back to that…and you know what? I’m ok with this. The Halo series is moving on and is trying to stay relevant to a wider audience. I’m just happy they’ve scaled back the enhanced movement a bit, but simple things like sprint and climbing still remain and people still freaked out. It’s standard in most if not all FPS games nowadays. Halo is no longer the cutting edge of FPS games anymore. It hasn’t been for a long time. Therefor, it does not matter if Halo doesn’t need that. It is what it is and I think from what I saw this is a clear step in the right direction. The gameplay looked smooth and fun and I can’t wait to get my hands on it. To me this is already a MASSIVE improvement over Halo 5!
This Twitter clip right here pretty much sums a good chunk of the Halo community. The guy nearly has an aneurysm after seeing sprint. People really need to get over themselves about this. It’s in the game, it is what it is, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Seriously, we haven’t even seen multiplayer yet. Maybe Sprint is only in Campaign. It would make sense for an open world game to have sprint so that you can get around a little faster.
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There are very simple things weve been asking for that the devs simply do not want to give us.
How hard is it to not make your games look plastic?
How hard is it to use the old character models for the enemies?
How hard is it to remove sprint?
This is what we want and they wont budge. So screw them honestly.
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And that’s why the Halo fanbase will slowly die, some people just don’t want to see changes in something that’s already good. 343 can’t get it through their thick skulls
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> This Twitter clip right here pretty much sums a good chunk of the Halo community.https://twitter.com/Ellisrael/status/1286372119874543616
If it sums up a good chunk of the community, why isn’t Microsoft trying to get them buy their games by removing sprint?
I have been playing Halo since Halo CE in my dorm room January 2002 and I can tell you I am glad we are not going back to those days.
Everything has to evolve and MCC is the perfect reminder of why evolution is important. I love MCC because of the nostalgia I get playing those old Halo games, and a few of my old dorm room teammates (we had a legit capture the flag 4-man team that competed) still play all of the Halo games to this day.
With that said we all much prefer Halo 5 to any of the previous games, because H5 is the perfect evolution of the gameplay. Halo Infinite has to evolve as well.
For me, Halo 3 is the hardest one to play because I cannot stand how long it takes to kill someone, how the crosshairs are so large, and even if you have the person-centered you still may not be hitting them…and they fixed that in Halo 4. Things in Halo 4 were fixed in Halo 5…and so on.
Gaming has evolved and Halo has to too. From what I saw today we are in for a real treat.
I do agree much of the fanbase is searching for the glory days to no avail. Returning to a 2008 game won’t make a 2020 game better and that is a fact. But using that 2008 game as a base is valid. The problem is Halo has no more of its own niche by now.
I’m not a competitive player so I cannot say sprint is good or bad as an example but I think it is fair for some to be annoyed that the company didn’t try to cater to them.
Some criticisms are quite valid in that they are the fanbase so the company should at least visibly consider their complaints.
There’s two points to here: yes the toxic nostalgia won’t be the best to compete but also you need to consider that the players make the game great as well. I think personally 343 has the right idea in needing to adapt, but they need more innovative ways like Halo was at first to give its own unique gameplay again like we used to have in the past
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> If it sums up a good chunk of the community, why isn’t Microsoft trying to get them buy their games by removing sprint?
Because a chunk won’t give you as much money as a wide audience will.
It’s nothing personal, it’s simply buisness.
Infinite will not be CE and people need to get over that, just enjoy the ride.
I’m anxious to see where the story goes.
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> I’m just gonna rip the band aid off here. We are NEVER and I mean NEVER getting a Halo game that feels 100% like the old games. It’s just not happening.
> I’ve been playing Halo since Halo 2 and while I can look back on those games with fond memories, I now know for a fact after seeing the Halo Infinite reveal that it is never going back to that…and you know what? I’m ok with this. The Halo series is moving on and is trying to stay relevant to a wider audience. I’m just happy they’ve scaled back the enhanced movement a bit, but simple things like sprint and climbing still remain and people still freaked out. It’s standard in most if not all FPS games nowadays. Halo is no longer the cutting edge of FPS games anymore. It hasn’t been for a long time. Therefor, it does not matter if Halo doesn’t need that. It is what it is and I think from what I saw this is a clear step in the right direction. The gameplay looked smooth and fun and I can’t wait to get my hands on it. To me this is already a MASSIVE improvement over Halo 5!
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> This Twitter clip right here pretty much sums a good chunk of the Halo community. The guy nearly has an aneurysm after seeing sprint. People really need to get over themselves about this. It’s in the game, it is what it is, and there’s nothing you can do about it. Seriously, we haven’t even seen multiplayer yet. Maybe Sprint is only in Campaign. It would make sense for an open world game to have sprint so that you can get around a little faster.
> https://twitter.com/Ellisrael/status/1286372119874543616
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> Edit: Just figured out links don’t work on here. Shame
I agree with everything you said. Halo is a product! The OG trilogy was a product of its time, it was great back then, we were kids or adolescents and now this time has passed, and there is a new era of players and audiences, new gameplay features, it is a completely different world and circunstances that it just cannot return and it is time for us to finally grow and move on. This clip for me just sums up this community, screaming about something that made sense when things were simpler in the past and now it does not for good or bad. We have to be reallistic here. This game the community all wants will never return and will never capture the feeling you had as a young boi.
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> I do agree much of the fanbase is searching for the glory days to no avail. Returning to a 2008 game won’t make a 2020 game better and that is a fact. But using that 2008 game as a base is valid. The problem is Halo has no more of its own niche by now.
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> I’m not a competitive player so I cannot say sprint is good or bad as an example but I think it is fair for some to be annoyed that the company didn’t try to cater to them.
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> Some criticisms are quite valid in that they are the fanbase so the company should at least visibly consider their complaints.
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> There’s two points to here: yes the toxic nostalgia won’t be the best to compete but also you need to consider that the players make the game great as well. I think personally 343 has the right idea in needing to adapt, but they need more innovative ways like Halo was at first to give its own unique gameplay again like we used to have in the past
Great comments.
I am old enough to remember Halo was the king for years and years. There was nothing bigger on a gaming console than Halo from 2002-2008…and then Call of Duty took over from there.
People also forget Bungie put out two games nobody really wanted which hurt the franchise during the time when they needed to keep it propped up with the competition, which was Halo 3 ODST and Halo Reach.
People talk about how much they love to Reach now, but I remember when the game launched and it was not widely received. Halo 3 ODST was ok but again this was not a game anyone was asking for. People wanted more of the Master Chief and most of all was people wanted Halo 4, and we did not get that until 2012.
By that point, since Bungie was done with Halo it hurt the franchise, and 343 had a huge hill to climb thanks in part to Bungie’s mishandling of the franchise at the end of their stewardship with it.
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> Infinite will not be CE and people need to get over that, just enjoy the ride.
They don’t need to do anything. You seem to take issue with people having a different opinion…? There’s always some ridiculous “arguments” given, but most people just genuinely aren’t happy with the direction. Nothing wrong with that, and you’d have to be stupid to assume everyone would love the game.
CE was a landmark of gaming. Infinite probably isn’t going to be, so there’s no argument there.
Meh
Other games, released over a year ago, offer better quality graphics and a better gameplay experience. I’m interested in the story, but I’ll watch it on youtube. So between this and the change to XBL year pass…I’ll wait to see what happens.
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> > Infinite will not be CE and people need to get over that, just enjoy the ride.
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> They don’t need to do anything. You seem to take issue with people having a different opinion…? There’s always some ridiculous “arguments” given, but most people just genuinely aren’t happy with the direction. Nothing wrong with that, and you’d have to be stupid to assume everyone would love the game.
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> CE was a landmark of gaming. Infinite probably isn’t going to be, so there’s no argument there.
I’ll bet you are a hit at the parties. Calling people “stupid” and throwing negative comments at the end of your posts are usually not the way to make friends and influence people. If you have had a bad day I totally understand. Hope it gets better!
I don’t care about anyone else’s experience with this trailer I loved it. I was sat there with chills and excitement like I haven’t in a while. I love open world games and I’m so happy to be able to play this style of game with halo. Especially since it will have rpg elements due to the tabs for upgrades and glossary when they are looking at the map. I’m ok with halo evolving and I been playing since Halo ce.
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> > > Infinite will not be CE and people need to get over that, just enjoy the ride.
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> > They don’t need to do anything. You seem to take issue with people having a different opinion…? There’s always some ridiculous “arguments” given, but most people just genuinely aren’t happy with the direction. Nothing wrong with that, and you’d have to be stupid to assume everyone would love the game.
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> > CE was a landmark of gaming. Infinite probably isn’t going to be, so there’s no argument there.
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> I’ll bet you are a hit at the parties. Calling people “stupid” and throwing negative comments at the end of your posts are usually not the way to make friends and influence people. If you have had a bad day I totally understand. Hope it gets better!
If you (not you) thought everyone would love Infinite, you’re (not you) being stupid. Foolish. Ignorant. Whatever word you want to use. There’s no two-ways about it. 343 knew this, and chose an audience based on the game they want to make, but would have been under no illusion that they would alienate fans.
It wasn’t a negative comment though. It was just facing the facts. My day has been a little disappointing though, so thanks for your good wishes. I hope your own has been better.
I’ll have to admit I’m a little confused when it comes to some of this hate for X or Y thing. I mean like… I don’t know. I started with Halo CE. I was just sitting there in the living room watching some guys in the house play it, and one of 'em had to get up for some therapy meeting or something. They were down a person and I was right there. I had to be what, like ten or eleven years old at the time? They handed me the controller, told me the basics, and let me at it.
I was hooked. Up until then, the only FPS’s I ever played was Rise of the Triad and Doom. I fell in love, really fast. I was capitvated by the story, the gameplay, all of it. Even hummed the Halo theme to myself over and over. After a while the guys I lived with started playing like Call of Duty and stuff, invited me to play too. I played one round and never came back. I just… Didn’t enjoy it. Most of them didn’t want to play Halo 2 when it released. I had saved up for that on a kid’s allowance and even went the extra mile for that shiny collector’s case. I was beyond thrilled when it finally arrived.
I had that same passion for Halo 3, and I finally got my first taste of online gaming. By all means, I should probably hate these new and modern mechanics, having grown up on the originals and having detested Call of Duty’s gameplay. But… I didn’t? Sure, Halo 4 was the lowest for me in terms of multiplayer but I stuck at it for Dominion and Big Team, and I loved Halo 5’s gameplay, but I also love going into the MCC and playing the old Halo 2 and Halo 3.
The pure, classic days of Halo do seem to be over. Maybe that’s part of why they’ve been putting so much effort into getting the MCC all patched up and running silky smooth - they knew full well Infinite wouldn’t please everyone, so they’d have this to fall back on?
Regardless, I’m excited to see where Infinite heads with all this, and what more we have to see in the coming months. Maybe Infinite will end up surpassing expectations, maybe it won’t. But I for one, am still looking forward to it. Maybe this time, I’ll get that Halo-themed console (If they make one!)
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> > Infinite will not be CE and people need to get over that, just enjoy the ride.
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> They don’t need to do anything. You seem to take issue with people having a different opinion…? There’s always some ridiculous “arguments” given, but most people just genuinely aren’t happy with the direction. Nothing wrong with that, and you’d have to be stupid to assume everyone would love the game.
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> CE was a landmark of gaming. Infinite probably isn’t going to be, so there’s no argument there.
Hmm…it seems like I need to break it down a little further for you. Infinite will not be CE – I’m stating that people need to get over the nostalgic comparison and trying to remake a game, that’s what the remasters have intended to be. Nowhere in my statement did I say anything about someone having a different opinion than my own and whether or not I disagree with it. Are you not therefore yourself taking issue with someone having a different opinion? Same thing. Just enjoy the ride – some rides are bumpy, some are smooth, this game, as with others will have it’s pros and cons.
Peeps the game look amazing so far!
-Open World
-Interesting environment the seems filled with backstory
Amazing graphics
Lots of wildlife
Story that looks interesting!
343 bought back the old armor style to please the old halo fans
Instead people are complaining about a sprint mechanic…
Boys It’s an open-world game… No sprint would be a nightmare.
Imagine you’re in the middle of nowhere and your warthog breaks.
Walking will take forever. Now you could sprint and perhaps take the grappling hook to take shortcuts.
Come on boys we look like idiots.
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> > They don’t need to do anything. You seem to take issue with people having a different opinion…? There’s always some ridiculous “arguments” given, but most people just genuinely aren’t happy with the direction. Nothing wrong with that, and you’d have to be stupid to assume everyone would love the game.
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> > CE was a landmark of gaming. Infinite probably isn’t going to be, so there’s no argument there.
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> Hmm…it seems like I need to break it down a little further for you. Infinite will not be CE – I’m stating that people need to get over the nostalgic comparison and trying to remake a game, that’s what the remasters have intended to be. Nowhere in my statement did I say anything about someone having a different opinion than my own and whether or not I disagree with it. Are you not therefore yourself taking issue with someone having a different opinion? Same thing. Just enjoy the ride – some rides are bumpy, some are smooth, this game, as with others will have it’s pros and cons.
You literally said ‘people need to get over that’. No, they don’t. Fans are allowed to be disappointed in what they’ve seen, and telling them what they ‘need’ to do isn’t going to make them feel otherwise. Subsequently, you were dismissing their opinions on the game, which is what I disagreed and took issue with. Nowhere in your original comment was anything else that you’ve now said, which I actually do agree with: nostalgia can be blinding, and too much is damaging. But wanting Infinite to have been like CE isn’t intrinsically related to nostalgia anyway.
The wider audience arguments make no sense at all because Halo has already been try doing that for what will be 10 years this September with no success.