Let's End This Starting Weapon Debate. AR/Sidekick both have faster TTK than BR

Games Halo Infinite
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I made a video on the time to kill “TTK”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e8o8z5GX2g

I’m working on one focused on the effective range (will post once it is filmed and done)
I have footage from online, but an assist from a teammate ruins the tests. Tried going to custom matches for footage today but the connection differences made it a bit difficult to actually measure the TTK due to delayed registration. Oh well. I’ll will work on this tomorrow.

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Imo we should have BR/AR start in BTB especially on dead lock, but pistol/AR in 4v4.

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Let’s be realistic. Almost everybody is going to immediately get rid of the AR as soon as possible, and go for the BR or something better. If everybody starts with the BR, nobody will probably go for other weapons, but if everyone starts with an AR, everyone will likely be carrying different weapons after swapping out, making BTB more unpredictable instead of everyone keeping the BR. AR may have better TTK, but people use BR for range accuracy.

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if anything, something like the halo reach loadout starts would be nice. I just like the pistol more for anything within 30 meters or so.

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Did you watch the video?
I swear people keep saying “BR better” like some dogmatic zealots. Pun intended.

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100% agree. I think ar/pistol starts emphasizes the Halo sandbox gameplay style. You are pressured to pick what you can find, or make use of what you start with in more creative ways. BR starts in any mode just gets rid of the need for variety besides few power weapons like rockets or snipes or sword. BR is in its own right a power weapon, imo.

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People keep saying that BR is better at range but I believe the fact that the AR/sidekick do not get taken out of zoom when shot put them at an advantage.

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This is why you shouldn’t start with 2 weapons…AR & Sidekick or BR & sidekick. Having 2 weapons…what ever they are, negates the sandbox. But only having 1 will make players scavenge for a back up to switch to instead of reloading and experiment with different weapons in the process. I personally would rather have a mixture of starts so long as everyone spawns with only 1 weapon

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That’s a terrible take. Every Halo starts with a main weapon and sidearm, because you run out of ammo too fast. Is this your first Halo game or something? Every fps in general usually has a main and side weapon.

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I love the ar sidekick start

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For 4v4 inthink ar/sk is fine as is.

For btb, idk i do think we should have ar br starts. But thats just because i prefer tha from halo 3. I mean ar/sk starts still work honestly. Just notbwhat I want

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Um no they dont. Halo tournaments since the beginning with MLG in the early halo 2 years onwards have had 1 weapon starts. Halo championship playlists in halo 5 and downwards have had only one weapon starts. And as of now the ranked playlist is set to appease the pros with 1 weapon starts and no radar.
You wouldnt run out of ammo if you pick up a scavenged weapon. You just staying that proves my post because no one who utilizes the sandbox worries about running out of ammo

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For slayer, i think ar/sidekick is good, provides a nice balance and other guns like the BR are around the maps. For BTB, starting with BR is s good idea, BR/AR is good

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I drop the pistol first, the AR is so over powered it’s not funny especially when you hit head shots after you “pop” your target’s shields

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“Tournaments” as in not casual normal gameplay. Keep the tournaments rules to tournaments.

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Yeah AR and Pistol need Descope

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Yet I do way better with a BR. Skill matters here. You also get more kills out of one mag with a BR than AR. It’s the better weapon if you know how to use it.

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This is why you don’t scope in. You can really tell who is new to Halo or is not good at using a BR.

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Skill matters here

True.

Higher TTK + skill = better results results than Lower TTK + Skill

You may be better with a BR but a person on the same skill level as you will kill you faster with a sidekick.

You want BTB to have BRs Starts but using a zoom is for bad players? What you just said in addition to not wanting to use an AR or Sidekick just sounds to me like you just enjoy limiting the sandbox for yourself. Which is fine, but that play style should not be pushed on others.

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games just aint fun with AR starts. Nothing worse than seeing someone 40 feet away from you and all you can do is wave. Ar starts i get more kills with Mele and grenades than I do AR. BR starts just have way better flow. much better gun fights.

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