Let's bring Halo back to its former glory

> Was I the only one who actually enjoyed Reach…?

Reach had potential, and overall it was a decent game compared to most other games that are created. But as far as compared to Halo games, it was a joke. It was frustrating, unbalanced, and completely casual-driven. I don’t want to see Halo 4 being taken down the same path. You can make a good game that competitive AND casual players can enjoy. It’s entirely possible; look at Halo 2.

Your Number four is wrong All the defiant maps are awesome and so are the noble maps

> I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.

As long as Dual-Wielding returns Im good

> > Was I the only one who actually enjoyed Reach…?
>
> I enjoyed once the anniversary maps and a classic playlist were added. But it still had nothing on Halo 3 for me.

Oh well, sucks for you that you didn’t like it.

Personally I thought it was a breath of fresh air after the staleness which was Halo.

> Your Number four is wrong All the defiant maps are awesome and so are the noble maps

lol no. I only bought the Defiant maps because they were on sale, and all of them sucked. The Noble ones were worse, I’ve heard.

> I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.

No, this game will not be a clone of Halo 3. Haven’t you already seen the gameplay?

-BR
-No AAs (except for possibly sprint)

OMFG HALO 3 CLONE!!!@@@!!!@@@@!@!@ ^^^^^^^

> > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
>
> No, this game will not be a clone of Halo 3. Haven’t you already seen the gameplay?
>
> -BR
> -No AAs (except for possibly sprint)
>
>
> OMFG HALO 3 CLONE!!!@@@!!!@@@@!@!@ ^^^^^^^

-Thank god BR with Zero Blooms Back Now scrubs like you have to have skill it play.
-Only Thing You need is sprint AA ruined Reach as far as I am concerned.
No Armor lock

TANK YOU 343

> > > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
> >
> > No, this game will not be a clone of Halo 3. Haven’t you already seen the gameplay?
> >
> > -BR
> > -No AAs (except for possibly sprint)
> >
> >
> > OMFG HALO 3 CLONE!!!@@@!!!@@@@!@!@ ^^^^^^^
>
> -Thank god BR with Zero Blooms Back Now scrubs like you have to have skill it play.
> -Only Thing You need is sprint AA ruined Reach as far as I am concerned.
> No Armor lock
>
> TANK YOU 343

You were talking to the guy I quoted, right :P?

> > > > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
> > >
> > > No, this game will not be a clone of Halo 3. Haven’t you already seen the gameplay?
> > >
> > > -BR
> > > -No AAs (except for possibly sprint)
> > >
> > >
> > > OMFG HALO 3 CLONE!!!@@@!!!@@@@!@!@ ^^^^^^^
> >
> > -Thank god BR with Zero Blooms Back Now scrubs like you have to have skill it play.
> > -Only Thing You need is sprint AA ruined Reach as far as I am concerned.
> > No Armor lock
> >
> > TANK YOU 343
>
> You were talking to the guy I quoted, right :P?

Yes.

> > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
>
> As long as Dual-Wielding returns Im good

Dual-Wielding is so impractical in almost every situation. Team Duals was also a nightmare. Why do people actually like it?

I don’t care, as long as it’s somewhat like Halo 2.

> I don’t care, as long as it’s somewhat like Halo 2.

Pretty much. Halo 2 was great. I wouldn’t mind a Halo 2-3 hybrid with fresh ideas thrown in, as long as they aren’t stupid like AA’s and bloom.

> > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
>
> I disagree with everything in this reply, you assume that I want a Halo 3 clone when really I want a Halo game that doesn’t totally suck. Get your ignorance out of these forums so 343 can make a good game.

Dude, Halo 4 isn’t even out yet.

Chill.

Everything was great in halo reach except the competitive part… I won’t deny that… The only thing halo 4 needs that is from halo 3 is the competitive part but if they don’t have it will still be a great game…

> Everything was great in halo reach except the competitive part… I won’t deny that… The only thing halo 4 needs that is from halo 3 is the competitive part but if they don’t have it will still be a great game…

The “competitive part”? You mean most of the game? Nothing about Reach was competitive. AA’s were unbalanced, player speed was too slow, and bloom was broken and random. That game was trash.

> > > I disagree with everything in this post, you want a halo 3 clone.
> >
> > I disagree with everything in this reply, you assume that I want a Halo 3 clone when really I want a Halo game that doesn’t totally suck. Get your ignorance out of these forums so 343 can make a good game.
>
> Dude, Halo 4 isn’t even out yet.
>
> Chill.

I know that. That’s the whole point of this thread, to get a discussion going in the hopes that Halo 4 isn’t as bad as Reach.

> > Everything was great in halo reach except the competitive part… I won’t deny that… The only thing halo 4 needs that is from halo 3 is the competitive part but if they don’t have it will still be a great game…
>
> The “competitive part”? You mean most of the game? Nothing about Reach was competitive. AA’s were unbalanced, player speed was too slow, and bloom was broken and random. That game was trash.

The aa’s were balanced except armor lock… People just hate aa system because it changed the game a lot from halo 3. Everything was fine with idea in the beta though… I didn’t see complaining there about it… Bloom was overally broken… Just needed to be fixed… It wasn’t that slow of a game…

Just make it playable for like 2 years and I’m happy.

So basically, your sentiments are part of the “Reach was bad, Halo 3 was good” bandwagon.
That’s cool.

> > > Everything was great in halo reach except the competitive part… I won’t deny that… The only thing halo 4 needs that is from halo 3 is the competitive part but if they don’t have it will still be a great game…
> >
> > The “competitive part”? You mean most of the game? Nothing about Reach was competitive. AA’s were unbalanced, player speed was too slow, and bloom was broken and random. That game was trash.
>
> The aa’s were balanced except armor lock… People just hate aa system because it changed the game a lot from halo 3. Everything was fine with idea in the beta though… I didn’t see complaining there about it… Bloom was overally broken… Just needed to be fixed… It wasn’t that slow of a game…

It was a horrifically slow game. I’m tired of explaining how AA’s sucked so I’ll keep it short:

Jetpack: Ruined the notion of map control and setups. Oh, you lost top control? No problem, jetpack on up there.
Evade: Made escaping after you made a stupid move much too easy.
Sprint: Same as Evade but on a lesser scale. This AA isn’t so bad, but Sprint + beatdown was annoying as hell.
Armor Lock: Broken for obvious reasons.
Drop Shield: Annoying in the beginning of the game, but it was mostly removed so I don’t care.
Active Camo: Promoted extremely slow-paced gameplay. Made snipers overpowered, especially on terrible maps like Hemorrhage. Nothing says “exciting and fast-paced” like people camping in corners with everlasting Camo, right?

I don’t mind change one bit. I DO mind when that change is half–Yoinked!-, broken, and makes the game slow and casual-friendly.