Its completely overpowered for a gun that requires virtually no skill and also considering its a spawn weapon…
Yes i know people will say the pistol is also powerful however does it require skill? YES… Does the assault rifle? NO…
SMG is fine as it has limited range and its a pickup so its fine.
Think about it…imagine two seperate games same map, players, everything except one game people are only allowed to use assault rifles and the other pistols…
I guarentee the pistol game will have a larger gap between kills and deaths at the top and bottom of the board… thus skill gap than the noob spray fest the assault rifle would provide.
The large gap between scores should be reflected in the ttk of the two guns proportionaly
The Reality??? A pistol user barely surviving a confrontation even if wielded with a godlike aim against timmy jr holding down rt.
Discuss…
AR is for scrubs, is it OP though nope it is a viable weapon within the sand box should a good player even let jimmy the scrub get close enough to damage and punish them with the assault rifle no. Also as easy as the assault rifle is to use just strafe because jimmy is bad at aiming anyway so long as you don’t stand in a straight line for him to empty all his bullets into you then you should be fine and leave the fight with over half shields still easily.
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> AR is for scrubs, is it OP though nope it is a viable weapon within the sand box should a good player even let jimmy the scrub get close enough to damage and punish them with the assault rifle no. Also as easy as the assault rifle is to use just strafe because jimmy is bad at aiming anyway so long as you don’t stand in a straight line for him to empty all his bullets into you then you should be fine and leave the fight with over half shields still easily.
Easier said than done when 90% of AR users run in a straight line towards you closing the distance - you CAN NOT get away from it, if you turn an run out comes the magnum headshots in the back.
MY grife with the AR is the range an accuracy, they’re both too high for an automatic weapon that can be used at such distance - that’s why we get Br’s an DMR’s but the fact people run past them for the use of the AR is a joke. as good an balanced as the Magnum is, that also needs a slight nerf. For it to go toe to toe with a DMR/BR at range is ridiculous in my opinion, it’s a -Yoinking!- SIDE ARM that you SPAWN with. It should be a viable weapon an useful, but not the powerhouse that it is.
its fine. its the first time u can outdo a br with it. the magnum is not a sidearm its a utility weapon. the ar is a primary its rate of fire is lower than smg higher than br accuracy is flip of that so its fine. just stop asking them to change stuff the guns are insanely well-balanced
“First time you can outdo a BR with it” and that’s exactly the issue - it shouldn’t be able to beat a BR or a DMR at anything other than close range (Radar distance)
The AR is too good right now. Even if you land a perfect kill with the pistol against an AR you will barely be alive. With the lowered aim assist in this game you are almost punished for using precision weapons because of how strong the AR is. It shouldn’t be like that. If you’re using a pistol, br,dmr you should be able to take out someone using an AR and still have shields left over. Not the case right now. It lowers the skill ceiling and makes the game less competitive.
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> The AR is too good right now. Even if you land a perfect kill with the pistol against an AR you will barely be alive. With the lowered aim assist in this game you are almost punished for using precision weapons because of how strong the AR is. It shouldn’t be like that. If you’re using a pistol, br,dmr you should be able to take out someone using an AR and still have shields left over. Not the case right now. It lowers the skill ceiling and makes the game less competitive.
Thank you, someone else who gets it and that isn’t a casual scrub who enjoys holding RT running forward in a straight line.
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> Its completely overpowered for a gun that requires virtually no skill and also considering its a spawn weapon…
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> Yes i know people will say the pistol is also powerful however does it require skill? YES… Does the assault rifle? NO…
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> SMG is fine as it has limited range and its a pickup so its fine.
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> Think about it…imagine two seperate games same map, players, everything except one game people are only allowed to use assault rifles and the other pistols…
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> I guarentee the pistol game will have a larger gap between kills and deaths at the top and bottom of the board… thus skill gap than the noob spray fest the assault rifle would provide.
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> The large gap between scores should be reflected in the ttk of the two guns proportionaly
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> The Reality??? A pistol user barely surviving a confrontation even if wielded with a godlike aim against timmy jr holding down rt.
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> Discuss…
I don’t believe its OP at all. It’s finally at a good spot I the sandbox. Halo is a skill and precision based game. The AR is finally in a spot where skill and precision actually influence its performance. If you “spray and play” its still moderate effective, netting you a few kills against opponents with BRs and the like due to either the opponents lack of skill or luck. Maybe some clean up kills. But if you use the AR like a real rifle, burst firing and having consistent aim, then you will outplay far more people. It only seems OP because in the past it was a underpowered no range pea shooter. Now that its at a level where skill can make a difference, I can see why some people think its OP. But its not.
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> > AR is for scrubs, is it OP though nope it is a viable weapon within the sand box should a good player even let jimmy the scrub get close enough to damage and punish them with the assault rifle no. Also as easy as the assault rifle is to use just strafe because jimmy is bad at aiming anyway so long as you don’t stand in a straight line for him to empty all his bullets into you then you should be fine and leave the fight with over half shields still easily.
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> Easier said than done when 90% of AR users run in a straight line towards you closing the distance - you CAN NOT get away from it, if you turn an run out comes the magnum headshots in the back.
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> MY grife with the AR is the range an accuracy, they’re both too high for an automatic weapon that can be used at such distance - that’s why we get Br’s an DMR’s but the fact people run past them for the use of the AR is a joke. as good an balanced as the Magnum is, that also needs a slight nerf. For it to go toe to toe with a DMR/BR at range is ridiculous in my opinion, it’s a -Yoinking!- SIDE ARM that you SPAWN with. It should be a viable weapon an useful, but not the powerhouse that it is.
Exactly as you say the AR users are dumb and run in a straight line so turn and shoot back at them while strafing left and right even thrust if you have to. You’re an easy target if you stand still or fire back at them without moving side to side. Most people problem seems to stem from the fact you don’t know how to strafe and shoot if you learn this you will dominate most AR users it really isn’t that hard. Also just mind your surrounding and always be aware communicate with your team and always keep looking around the whole area as your radar isn’t the get out of jail free card which it used to be.
Great another “lets be honest X weapon is op!” thread… I’d take these a little more seriously if there wasn’t one for every single weapon already!
Lol though the variety of these threads might actually prove there’s balance in this game XD
I like the new assault rifle. It’s actually useful now. The assault rifle though, is not used anything like you say it is OP, unless you are a noob (and I never ever use that term).
If I were to charge someone with an assault rifle and start firing, they could quite easily thruster over me and hit me in my back. The Assualt Rifle is a weapon where you have to be constantly be moving various directions and somehow landing every shot. If I were to miss a few shots against a player who has a BR and can strafe various directions and jump, Mr/Mrs BR will certainly win but at a loss of a majority of most of their bottom shield.
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> “First time you can outdo a BR with it” and that’s exactly the issue - it shouldn’t be able to beat a BR or a DMR at anything other than close range (Radar distance)
On a completely down to the bone level playing field, you’re right. However, skill and precision now matter in Halo more than ever. So if you’re being gunned down by an Ar at Br range, then perhaps you’re not as skilled with the Br.
It’s strong in close combat as it should be , the smg as well, so it’s fine , if you can’t hit properly with the pistol in close range, just switch to AR aswell … don’t see the problem there… , or maybe just use the good old fist?
Me not being skilled with the BR doesn’t come into the equation when i’m NOT missing headshots, i’ve never found ti difficult to land the headshots on someone, over the 10 years i’ve played Halo, the problem is the movement speed combined with the AR, it’s all good saying “strafe” but if they keep their aim central their bullets are still hitting you because you’re going side to side, the only option is to forget about the guy an get away to a bigger distance an kill them, which doesn’t happen when everyone can sprint/climb/boost at the speed of light, all the meantime your shields don’t regen when you sprint so as soon as that AR starts hitting you, you’re pretty much dead unless you get a splice of luck an they miss. The damage combined with the Accuracy and range is too much, something one of them needs to be lowered. With the gun where it’s at now, more people are using it over a DMR/BR an that’s ridiculous
The problem truly is not the fact that someone bad can get a kill…It’s more the fact a decent player can get incredibly cheap kills with it and turn them from a 1.2kd player to a 1.8kd player…I would honestly accept the assault rifle with its power, if it was actually difficult to use, such as very low aim assist or none, or if it had significant recoil which would at least then make it somewhat skillful.
Its too easy and too powerful! the magnum is difficult and powerful however I will only barely survive an exchange with an assault rifle user with a magnum…the risk reward is messed up…
I love halo 5 by the way, it has so much potential.
Don’t change the gun I love it
I’m going to have to fall into the category of scrub here as I don’t have a problem with the assault rifle. I do think that a lot of the players who have a problem with it are struggling to accept that it’s no longer an auto-drop weapon but that’s just me. I can’t comment too much about the maximum kill range on it because I don’t try for medium/long range kills; I switch to the BR for that
Most players have no idea how to use the AR. They just spray and pray with it. The pistol, on the other hand, is easily spammed by even the worst of players successfully.
I’ve no idea what this is all about, if you’re trying to pistol people within AR range you should lose, the effective ranges (for human weapons) starting closest are, shotgun, SMG, Assault rifle, Pistol, BR, DMR,Sniper. (special weapons, Hydra,rockets and Rail gun have a more niche roll and don’t really interract in the same manner as the other weapons listed)
To all the people saying the AR is fine because it’s finally balanced, how so? It’s the opposite of balanced for halo. The AR should always be outclassed by the precision weapons. No matter the range.