Lets all stop complaining, give up on Halo.

Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. They don’t read every single post. I’m giving up on this game and everyone else complaining should stop beating the dead Halo horse, throw away their saddle, bury the horse and get on with their lives. Seriously, imagine how much you could achieve with your life focusing your energy on possitive things, instead of focusing on negative things, such as how this game failed to meet your expectations. It’s pointless really to even attempt to give 343 constructive critisim, the franchise is long past its due date, and they will keep failing to deliver long into the future with little innovation and or grand creative vision. Halo CE is a 97 on metacritic, Halo 2 was around a 95 and Halo 3 was a 94, now Halo 4 a 87. My prediction? On the rate it’s going down at, I reckon Halo 5 will be about an 80. This game lacks any kind of ingenuity and I am appauled it won GOTY at Machinima. I find it pretty suss that Halo 4 also got a 10/10 on Machinima… Taking some money under the table I see?

Halo 4 is nothing more than a medicore campaign with medicore level design (each arena is a large box connected to another large box, to give the illusion of free space) and variety (shoot your way through each inter-connected box untill everything dies, and push buttons or have a quick time event), half -Yoinked!- setpieces (such as the pelican flight scene, it was barely touched on), forgetable soundtrack made by a forgetable composer. Hacked on co-op with nothing interesting to show excluding the cut scenes, in no way better than firefight. Dumbed down forge (forge areas for e.g). Dumbed down custom games. Unbalanced multiplayer weapons, bullet magnetism, didn’t implement 1-50 after everyone said in Reach, the whole jist, you know what everyone complains about… The game was a let down to alot of people, including long time Halo fans such as myself. I wish it was good, I really do. This game just doesn’t cut it.

This is the last time I will ever complain about the game for now, and it does seem quite hypocritical to complain about the game wilst saying not to, but I was just forming a base argument in order for people to see my stance on the game, and not dismiss me as a troll, to take me seriously and etc. And that’s it, I’m off.

TLDR; Halo massive dissapointment to alot of people. People should stop complaining because 343i obviously isn’t listening, plus it is a waste of time. I give brief and overall, legit reasons as to why I dislike the game. I give those reasons not to be a hypocrite, but to show I’m legit. Done with Halo.

I am glad to hear your picking up your life, you seriously need one. DAMN!

> Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. <mark>They don’t read every single post.</mark>

Can you honestly say you read every single post?

Why should I give up on something I actively enjoy? Why shouldn’t I do what I can to try and improve a product that holds some value for me? Complaining doesn’t always mean that people hate something, sometimes some of us want to improve something we love.

> > Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. <mark>They don’t read every single post.</mark>
>
> Can you honestly say you read every single post?

If I made the bloody game, damn right I would! I wouldn’t stop reading untill I gave my very best effort to make it enjoyable for all, in fact, I would have listened to the community 2 years ago when halo reach came out! And you are asking me if I read every single post? I’d obviously make a better suiter for a role on 343’s team to put their -Yoinks!- into line and make something good. That’s a stupid question and you should feel stupid.

> Why should I give up on something I actively enjoy? Why shouldn’t I do what I can to try and improve a product that holds some value for me? Complaining doesn’t always mean that people hate something, sometimes some of us want to improve something we love.

If in-experienced forum goers can come up with better ways the game SHOULD be, then the devs are doing their job wrong. Halo USED to hold value to you, but now it obviously doesn’t because some things in the game make you annoyed…

> > > Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. <mark>They don’t read every single post.</mark>
> >
> > Can you honestly say you read every single post?
>
> If I made the bloody game, damn right I would! I wouldn’t stop reading untill I gave my very best effort to make it enjoyable for all, in fact, I would have listened to the community 2 years ago when halo reach came out! And you are asking me if I read every single post? I’d obviously make a better suiter for a role on 343’s team to but their -Yoinks!- into line and make something good. That’s a stupid question and you should feel stupid.

Then go make a game -_-

> > > Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. <mark>They don’t read every single post.</mark>
> >
> > Can you honestly say you read every single post?
>
> If I made the bloody game, damn right I would! I wouldn’t stop reading untill I gave my very best effort to make it enjoyable for all, in fact, I would have listened to the community 2 years ago when halo reach came out! And you are asking me if I read every single post? I’d obviously make a better suiter for a role on 343’s team to but their -Yoinks!- into line and make something good. That’s a stupid question and you should feel stupid.

would you rather them sit here and read and reply to every single post or would you rather them sit there and edit code to make the game better?(which from what ive seen they have been doing)
i know what i would choose.

and it was a stupid comment to begin with, expect a stupid question in response.

> I am glad to hear your picking up your life, you seriously need one. DAMN!

+1

I gave up on 343 when someone who got a legitimate copy of Halo 4 early got console banned and his gamertag perma banned, and Frank O’ Conner promised to help and get the issue resolved, then never did and basically just committed damage control and never helped the user, and basically just ignored him.

I will not be supporting this horrible company anymore, and I hope the decline of Halo sales keep lowering and 343 just bombs with Halo 5 and Halo just gets put to rest.

This post makes sense believe it or not. If you dislike something why are you still playing/complaining about it move on. Probably because to some extent you enjoy it. I love this halo, yeah there’s some lame stuff but I enjoy it.

> I gave up on 343 when someone who got a legitimate copy of Halo 4 early got console banned and his gamertag perma banned, and Frank O’ Conner promised to help and get the issue resolved, then never did and basically just committed damage control and never helped the user, and basically just ignored him.
>
> I will not be supporting this horrible company anymore, and I hope the decline of Halo sales keep lowering and 343 just bombs with Halo 5 and Halo just gets put to rest.

Links? Is actually like to read about this.

> > > > Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. <mark>They don’t read every single post.</mark>
> > >
> > > Can you honestly say you read every single post?
> >
> > If I made the bloody game, damn right I would! I wouldn’t stop reading untill I gave my very best effort to make it enjoyable for all, in fact, I would have listened to the community 2 years ago when halo reach came out! And you are asking me if I read every single post? I’d obviously make a better suiter for a role on 343’s team to but their -Yoinks!- into line and make something good. That’s a stupid question and you should feel stupid.
>
> Then go make a game -_-

I would if I could.

> > I gave up on 343 when someone who got a legitimate copy of Halo 4 early got console banned and his gamertag perma banned, and Frank O’ Conner promised to help and get the issue resolved, then never did and basically just committed damage control and never helped the user, and basically just ignored him.
> >
> > I will not be supporting this horrible company anymore, and I hope the decline of Halo sales keep lowering and 343 just bombs with Halo 5 and Halo just gets put to rest.
>
> Links? Is actually like to read about this.

There you go, really long read (basically 2,000 posts).

In the end Frankie claims the issue is still being looked into, but the OP has been banned for a month now with no help, and that the OP’s actions have basically screwed him over, and that his copy is illegitimate. The posters only action was buying 343’s game early, and playing it early, and his copy was legitimate.

Frankie is Stinkles on Neogaf.

> > Why should I give up on something I actively enjoy? Why shouldn’t I do what I can to try and improve a product that holds some value for me? Complaining doesn’t always mean that people hate something, sometimes some of us want to improve something we love.
>
> If in-experienced forum goers can come up with better ways the game SHOULD be, then the devs are doing their job wrong. Halo USED to hold value to you, but now it obviously doesn’t because some things in the game make you annoyed…

Some things in every game annoy me. Nothing is perfect, everything can be improved. Hell, Halo 4 did pretty well by me, the only major problem I have is their handling of Spartan Ops.

Oh, and your above comment about reading every post; no, you wouldn’t. If you did you wouldn’t have any time to actually fix the issues being created. If you don’t like the game, that’s fine, but don’t try to convince me that I share your feelings.

> > > Why should I give up on something I actively enjoy? Why shouldn’t I do what I can to try and improve a product that holds some value for me? Complaining doesn’t always mean that people hate something, sometimes some of us want to improve something we love.
> >
> > If in-experienced forum goers can come up with better ways the game SHOULD be, then the devs are doing their job wrong. Halo USED to hold value to you, but now it obviously doesn’t because some things in the game make you annoyed…
>
> Some things in every game annoy me. Nothing is perfect, everything can be improved. Hell, Halo 4 did pretty well by me, the only major problem I have is their handling of Spartan Ops.
>
> Oh, and your above comment about reading every post; no, you wouldn’t. If you did you wouldn’t have any time to actually fix the issues being created. If you don’t like the game, that’s fine, but don’t try to convince me that I share your feelings.

I wasn’t being literal when I said I would read all the posts, I was showing my devotion I would have to the fans and to myself as a Halo player. It would only take not even an hour of going through forum posts to find the general idea of what is wrong with the game. I would feel terrible and resign from the possition if the game was being released in it’s current state. Everything that I said was wrong about the game is in fact true.

No, it pretty much will take an hour and even more. Yes, they can read the general complaints in short time, but they’d also have to look into different opinions, how much it actually affects gameplay, and other aspects of the complaints. Looking at a problem and say “I can fix that” is not so simple.

Devotion does not mean efficiency. If you were to spend all the times just looking and replying to posts and THEN go work on the solutions, it’ll take even more time.

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Kill yourself.

> Sure, I’ve made a few complaint threads, but obviously 343i will never listen. They don’t read every single post. I’m giving up on this game and everyone else complaining should stop beating the dead Halo horse, throw away their saddle, bury the horse and get on with their lives. Seriously, imagine how much you could achieve with your life focusing your energy on possitive things, instead of focusing on negative things, such as how this game failed to meet your expectations. It’s pointless really to even attempt to give 343 constructive critisim, the franchise is long past its due date, and they will keep failing to deliver long into the future with little innovation and or grand creative vision. Halo CE is a 97 on metacritic, Halo 2 was around a 95 and Halo 3 was a 94, now Halo 4 a 87. My prediction? On the rate it’s going down at, I reckon Halo 5 will be about an 80. This game lacks any kind of ingenuity and I am appauled it won GOTY at Machinima. I find it pretty suss that Halo 4 also got a 10/10 on Machinima… Taking some money under the table I see?
>
> Halo 4 is nothing more than a medicore campaign with medicore level design (each arena is a large box connected to another large box, to give the illusion of free space) and variety (shoot your way through each inter-connected box untill everything dies, and push buttons or have a quick time event), half -Yoinked!- setpieces (such as the pelican flight scene, it was barely touched on), forgetable soundtrack made by a forgetable composer. Hacked on co-op with nothing interesting to show excluding the cut scenes, in no way better than firefight. Dumbed down forge (forge areas for e.g). Dumbed down custom games. Unbalanced multiplayer weapons, bullet magnetism, didn’t implement 1-50 after everyone said in Reach, the whole jist, you know what everyone complains about… The game was a let down to alot of people, including long time Halo fans such as myself. I wish it was good, I really do. This game just doesn’t cut it.
>
> This is the last time I will ever complain about the game for now, and it does seem quite hypocritical to complain about the game wilst saying not to, but I was just forming a base argument in order for people to see my stance on the game, and not dismiss me as a troll, to take me seriously and etc. And that’s it, I’m off.
>
> TLDR; Halo massive dissapointment to alot of people. People should stop complaining because 343i obviously isn’t listening, plus it is a waste of time. I give brief and overall, legit reasons as to why I dislike the game. I give those reasons not to be a hypocrite, but to show I’m legit. Done with Halo.

I have been feeling this way aswell :frowning:

I am holding out for the title update like an idiot but my expectations are low. I love first person shooters and tbh I dont know what I would play to replace halo 4? The main thing 343 really should be scared of is someone filling that massive gap in the fps market they have left and all of jumping ship and not standing for any more of there -Yoink-.

Damn it Doom you stole my thread!

https://forums.halowaypoint.com/yaf_postst153276_To-those-who-dislike-Halo-4.aspx