Legitimate Complaints for Halo 4

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Okay I have been looking around and posted a few times since the release of Halo 4 and sadly it seems that all of the legitimate issues are buried in Pages of troll and Hate threads. So in order to try to save time I have looked through a few of the Pages and found threads with REAL issues that should be addressed and I have summarized what a good portion of the fans are saying. Please take note that this is not a complaint thread but a summarization of LEGITIMATE issues people have with the game.

(This list will be updated as time goes on, and as other issues are brought up or are put to rest.)

Custom Games/Forge
Game Types like: Halo Ball, Race, VIP need to come back
Flood needs to have visual customization returned and weapon spawning addressed.
Another Forge world like Coliseum or Hemorrhage needs to be added.
Waypoint support for File Share needs to be added ASAP
Click here for thread discussing previously stated Issues

War Games/Map Issues:
Add a Community Playlist and Community made maps to War games
Compound Wall Glitch

Miscellaneous Ideas (Things that would be cool to see)
Ordnance Visual and Strategic Update

I will be adding more as time progresses and as more issues come to light. If you have an issue that you feel is important please post it below or PM me so I can add it to the list (Please include an active thread with it if possible)

Please don’t let this become a Hate thread, I love Halo 4 but like any game it has some issues.

Note that: Buff this, Nerf that, Remove/Move from Load outs/Ordnance will not be highlighted here unless valid evidence can be provided that does affect the game to make it unbalances the game for BOTH sides.

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THEY NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM OF GAMERS BEING ABLE TO JOIN INTO GAMES THAT ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY. THIS IS REDICULOUS…NOW THAT CSR IS ADDED, EVERY GAME THAT I FIND ENDS UP THE SAME: I JOIN A GAME THAT IS ALREADY 95 PERCENT OVER AND I GET 0-1 KILLS BEFORE THE GAME IS OVER AND THE TEAM THAT I JOINED IS DEFEATED…THIS IS -Yoink-…I’M DONE TAKING LOSES BECAUSE OF THIS PIEICE OF -Yoink- SYSTEM…CAN I GET AN AMEN?!

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Well, you know, if you get lucky you can get caught up and win the game. For example, I got thrown into an already active game of Regicide. However, the leader was about 30 points in so it wasn’t too much work. But he definitely put up a fight. In the end, I surpassed him and won with 305 on the board and the former leader under me with 255.

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Do you represent the halo council?

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I personally wish there was a better divider of the community. Like, probably ranked and social playlists, like the OP half-stated. Seriously, yesterday the Day’s challenge was win 5 CTF matches. I probably played 20 CTF matches yesterday and I didn’t win a single one, even though in most, I had a fairly decent K/D. I can’t tell if I was just unevenly matched or if the community actually sucks this much, but it was terrible. I think in the amount of matches, as a whole, I played yesterday, I only won 2-3. -_-

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-Join in Progress doesn’t belong in halo.
-Ordinance drops are random and make for horrible gameplay.
-BTB needs Objective
-CSR needs to be visible in game
-Needs a spectator mode
-DMR needs nerf or BR needs Buff (coming in June)
-Auto-pick up of the flag needs to go. Along with the flagnum and flag indicator over your head.
-Assault needs to come back

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> -Join in Progress doesn’t belong in halo.
> -Ordinance drops are random and make for horrible gameplay.
> -BTB needs Objective
> -CSR needs to be visible in game
> -Needs a spectator mode
> -DMR needs nerf or BR needs Buff (coming in June)
> -Auto-pick up of the flag needs to go. Along with the flagnum and flag indicator over your head.
> -Assault needs to come back

CSR is not going to be visible in THIS game.

JIP may be annoying, but people always quit and i know that a lot of people hate when they’re in a lv4 or 2v4 situation. It has its issues, but it is needed, especially since people quit left and right

The point about the DMR and BR suggests that you are only focused on the BR’s performance vs the DMR’S and not the performance of the other loadout weapons. I am just saying that because I do not want people to assume that you are someone who just cares about the BR because a lot of posters think that of people who just suggest that the dmr is overpowered.

The only problem i see with the flag is the fact that you cannot drop it. I would guess that flagnum is in the game to compensate for the inability to drop the flag.

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No, legitimate concerns are labelled as “hate threads” and “complaints” and lambasted by the community, ignored by the developers, and censored by the moderators.

Personally, I’m still waiting for those classic playlists that 343i promised us.

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> No, legitimate concerns are labelled as “hate threads” and “complaints” and lambasted by the community,

Which is a shame, I agree.

> ignored by the developers,

Given the number of fixes in past Title Updates, the release of Forge Island and Team Throwdown, and the development of an across-the-board weapon update, I think it’s far more likely that they’re simply not able to address all of the community’s concerns.

They don’t have an army working on this game. There are personnel and budget limitations. They do what they can.

> and censored by the moderators.

A brief examination of this section’s first page (or that of the Matchmaking section) is enough to prove this one false.

We edit posts that violate the forum rules. If you express legitimate concerns in a legitimate (i.e. constructive) manner, you need not worry about being “censored”. If you see a post and you don’t understand why it was edited, feel free to PM a moderator and ask.

> Personally, I’m still waiting for those classic playlists that 343i promised us.

I do think it’s weird that they didn’t deliver on that. They obviously knew it would be an important matter, or they wouldn’t have mentioned it in the first place.

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Remove the boltshot.

Make it so every one can’t spawn with sticky grenades except for large maps with vehicles.

And that’s pretty much the only problems that I have with the game. Other than that it’s an awesome game.

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The addition of shields and AA to the infection game type now called Flood, altered the game play so drastically, that it does not play anywhere close to the same as it did before.

Infection was a huge population draw for Reach and would regularly break 10,000 even a year and a half after release, Flood is lucky to break 2500 on the weekends at peak time.

Infection was fun and had no need for some sort of convoluted desire to balance the game play out. The very essence of the game lies in the imbalance.

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Here’s a question…why dose everything have to be a complaint?

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> -Join in Progress doesn’t belong in halo.

Really?
Ok, so lets just remove it 100%, want to join a friend in some Customs? You’re going to have to wait until they finish the game? Want a full team in a fair fight after all of your team quits with in the first few minutes of the game? Too damn bad, you’re going to have to wait until the game ends.
Join in Progress has belonged in Halo, always has, always will. Granted this is the first time it’s been in MM, the MM side of it needs some adjustment and limitations, both of which 343i are working on everyday, finding better ways to make it work like it should. Hell, I’d love to play some FFA Slayer that was JIP, if you die 3 times, you’re kicked from the match, first person to score 50 kills, wins.

> -Ordinance drops are random and make for horrible gameplay.

Random makes for horrible gameplay!? Really? I always found random to be the best gameplay, it gives you this thing called a Challenge, and it shows skill to overcome it.

> -CSR needs to be visible in game

Not going to happen, doesn’t matter if every single vocal community member shows up to 343i’s office and says “GIVE US VISIBLE IN GAME CSR IN HALO 4”, post launch it’s really hard to force people to download a TU that replaces 100% of the .map files that make up Halo 4. Not everything is as simple as it sounds, ever heard of the phrase “Easier said than done”? On paper it sounds like a damn simple fix to do to people who don’t understand the inner workings of Halo’s Engine. But in reality something as simple as fixing a texture error on the warthog is harder than replacing a crankshaft in a vehicle.

> -Needs a spectator mode

This is another “easier said than done” deal. yes people want spectator mode, but it’s not a make or break feature, nor is it something that can be added to the game post launch. Hell I remember hearing/reading 343i say “Sorry, but it’s too late to add this feature into the game”, and this was a few months before going gold.

> -DMR needs nerf or BR needs Buff (coming in June)

That’s why there’s the weapon tuning, to fix this issue of balance.

> -Auto-pick up of the flag needs to go. Along with the flagnum and flag indicator over your head.

I do think 343i has stated that they can’t change this. Also, Auto-Pick up isn’t a problem, maybe the fact you can’t drop the flag is, but when it comes to classic, guess what, auto pick up is classic, and I’m talking Halo CE on the original Xbox Classic. Don’t want to be forced to carry the flag? Don’t get close to the damn thing, problem solved. It’s a damn good rule of thumb, and it’s a rule I’ve been following since Halo CE/PC, it’s a damn shame that people have gotten lazy with the whole “Hold X to pick up” crap.

Master Wawuu, not everything has to be a complaint, but people these days just don’t know how to compromise for anything/anyone these days, everyone has to have it their way, and most people rip on others for disagreeing with them.

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Why remove something over fixing it?

The drop shield AA is a good example of this. It might not have worked as well in Halo 4 as it did in Reach but some adjustments for it to fit in Halo 4’s sandbox would’ve really made it work and it’s very easy to see that.

A lot of Halo’s problems could be fixed without removing content.

-Return the Plasma pistol to the CE version. No EMP, it just sticks to you and does damage. Then return the grenade launcher as a power weapon and it will take the role of the EMP weapon.

-Take the Active camo back to the CE version too as a power up. Then it can be dropped with ordnance like the other power ups.

-If Ordnance makes it too easy to get power weapons than increase the amount of points required to get a drop(This is possible right now!) if that’s not good enough than ordnance can only drop power ups and other stuff other than power weapons.

-The DMR is already gonna get nerfed because that’s the right thing to do.

There’s a solution for every problem.

This isn’t just my opinion for Halo 4 and future Halo’s but removing content is always a bad idea like the Hornet, Falcon, Reverent, Spectra, Chopper, Prowler, Brute Plasma rifle, SMG, Spiker, Mauler, Bruteshot, Flamethrower, Missile pod, Needle rifle, Focus rifle, Plasma launcher, Spike grenades, Flame grenades, Health monitor and yes I’m going to say it AMOUR LOCK. This list can keep on going, I haven’t even mentioned the game types among other things.

I understand why sometimes things go because they get boring and a replacement would be more fun and because of time constraints but removing something because you can’t fix it’s problems is something I can’t stand!