Left/ west handedness and Halo Infinite

A wishful, suggestive and coffee infused brainstorm incoming. Need to get it of my shoulders, equalient of carrying of 7 kg on each for way too long

So heres the thing… things including leftie aliens to begin with

I understand that our Master Chief and who else we might be put into role to play, might forever stay right handed. Or leftie if 343 care to have Rtas Vadum be a leftie. I think he was.

At least to fight left handed Jackals/ Skirmisher ( Ruuthians, Tvoan, Ibe Shan ) in Campaign/ Events/ Forge ( a. I ) etc would be a much appreciated care of detail.

I understand the player gameplay side, due to left being utility and punchy punch BUT.
Have left handed enemies make em switch main hand on the go, have said jackals have wrist shields on both hands, at least a higher/ different ranked / sub- species. But only one wrist shield can be active at a time.
Though can with a few tactical moment switch left/ right hands to use left/ right notches on their shields. Very least throw a bread crumb to have Ruuthian jackal sniper leftie? Yan mee drones even if they appear?

I dont get it really.

The Jackals, no more left handed, no more unique quirk there, same for Drones I suspect if they show up.

Nobto be harsh but…all about artistic integrity I hear, yet willing to cut cost to give a literal/ in direct thumbs downt to leftie aspects of player and even the enemies. Does it flyby that quick? You took alot of influence from Halo CE, yet not regarding the Jackals unique aspect shooting our faces? :laughing:

Im asking myself and gaming friends, the reason?

  • tin foil hat on *
    Is it

1: couldnt find left/ both handed motion capture actors for the Jackal species?

2: to much work?

3: to easy to hit exposed left hand when attacked bu ua players shooting with right side hud weapons?

4: dont want to make left handed aliens go extinct? ( thanks on their behalf I guess, lore explaination please if so )

I could understand 1 if thats the case. Still even if animating by program, Im willing to wait for more leftie stuff.

Same for 2

3 Is complete and utter FALSE! Imho

Its neither faster, easier/ harder to hit the exposed Jackal hand. It depends more of your position. Exception is when you are poking around a corner to hit the right hand on jackal, obviously harder then. F example. Try it yourself by aiming at any jackal shield and note the speed at aiming towards either left or right handed jackals depending on Halo game.

4 is just a meager comfort, excuse and relief.

So… heh. In universe there have to be enough kig yar jackals and skirmishers to die for left handed ones to appear in-game again? No sense…

Also the new shield wield animations from recent Halo Infinite gameplay was awesome looking! Kudos

I say it again
Why not make Jackals have TWO shield gauntlets but can only activate one at a time and switch up their gun hand to adapt at situations and given a moment to do so?

THAT would be awesome!

So dear 343, at least add leftie animations to the character rigs down the line in Halo Infinite. Think of all the varied, fun and even challenging moments filling the sandbox and 30+ sec of fun combat cycles. As far as I know thats what Halo is all about and little details like this spice it up, add flavor to gameplay.

And if you at ALL add animations for at least our personal muliplayer Spartans.
Then we lefties can finally be fully left/ west handed with also using the south paw control setup.

A side note: Alot of thanks for including options for color blind/ handicapped people. I have a few relatives that, who got VERY happy, so now they can enjoy Halo Infinite their way.
I feared we lefties and color blinded were of those forgotten groups thay dosent seem " worthy " of bothering with.
One close buddy of mine which lost his right arm in a farming accident ( from wrist to elbow ) HAVE to use his left, Im lucky who can adapt.

You have the workforce, resources and time, in this case a DECADE for Halo Infinite to include what I suggested on behalf of those close to me, gameplay spice and that options is always a fundamentaly great thing.
Im not sure Im wishing too much, just hoping you consider it down the line.

Well enough of my rambling after too much coffee

Have a good day/ night and counting down to say hi to HI to play :grin:

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Ha. fight on brother. Lefty here

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I am not left-handed but I’ve always wondered what it would be like to have a dominant hand setting, because almost every other aspect of Halo multiplayer resmbles real shooting, so a left hand feature would be something new and cool for Infinite imo.

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One day theres gonna be a vidoc and with it , there gonna highlight this thread in particular and say

"We love our community & their attention to detail on all things big and small weather they are just casually gaming or having all night coffee infused gaming session.

which is why we’ve added left handed and right handed species encase almost anyone hasn’t even realised or thought about before here you go extra little detail for you to pick up on "

but really never thought about it and I’m sure its the case almost all games do it for almost all their base characters unless specified to really. Still 343 are usually good for adding in little details where it counts.

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Yeah, for Infinite/343 priding themselves on customization/inclusivity, there are some glaring omissions and steps backwards. Hofefully, these were all due to time constraints and we’ll se them in the near future.

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I think you’re overthinking this lol. I will add, though, that in their quest to add minor unique qualities to each enemy through modular armor and color patterns, it would be neat to see them add something that randomized an alien’s handedness.

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Heh, yeah I might overthink it. But think about it this way. Didnt other small details akin to this also start with some degree of reflection, sudden flyby lightbulb ideas, if not overthinking? Maybe someone out there thinks about why the other kind of Halo CE elite helmet never have showed up again and such

Btw guys and gals
One smaller reason for this thread is that I swear seeing a Jackal looking to be left handed in earlier gameplay trailer.

Just as the pelican fly over a cliffside with some marines captured. Theres two jackals standing there. The one at bottom right looked left handed, because the longer part of the head, with the beak were pointed north.
Yeah I have a attention to detail, bite me :laughing:
But… if so…
Then theres at least two possibilities
1: The jackals do vary in handiness but the amount of left or right handers spawned in randomly varies
2: 343 backpedaled and said. " oh dear the jackal is lefty, not uniform and cant have it CE unique, reverse, reverse! "
Just joking with nr 2 though with a modicum of " uh oh "
Anyway, have a good day. Im done with my break writing here and back to work :muscle:

Jackals used to be left handed, drones too. But really, besides the jackals, it’s not going to mean much gameplay wise, and I do think it’s more effert on the Devs side than needed as it’s probably more difficult than just clicking a mirror button. As for first person shooting, you’d have the casings fly Infront of you, which always looks off putting to me, and flipping the gun so casings go left even more so.
I don’t mind the idea but it is kinda making a mountain out of a mole hill situation.

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Yeah, Cmdr. I totally see the devs side. And Im NOT gonna imagine how to develop a game regarding handedness fror player character and non player characters. Im not a dev so I dont know the procedures, obstacles etc for such in other words.
But the thing is, its a conundrum, really. Why did they " fix " something that werent broken?
Its started with Halo Reach, which baffled me… Jackals and even Skirmirshers just… switched hand.
I made my own head canon that maybe they used up too many of them right handers in the battle of Reach so the leftie Jackals were like:
" Sigh lets show our easter handed brethren HOW its done! "
Then after Halo 1-3, the population of right handed Jackals went skyhihg so now the lefties are back home at Eyan and breed up their numbers :rofl:

Its silly. Still that little thing have irked me in the back of my mind for 10 years, since Halo Reach.
Why Bungie, WHY 343!???

Dont misunderstand me, did NOT kill my enjoyment of any Halo game, its just sad that they wound shot a unique trait for a few of the alien species…
And lets ditch us at all getting left handed multiplayer Spartan options ( 343, reeeeealy got me hopeful with weapon offsets ). Having to remodel EVERY weapon for left handed use or even make a center centered ejection port would be alot of work, even still keeping that they have 10 + YEARS of Halo Infinites lifespans time to do so, make a reality there.

The “simplest” would be to ADD new animations, handness, varity for NPC enemies and allies, at the very least!
I do NOT only think of it as : " I feel us lefties are being worked against/ forgotten/ whyohy?"
No, I MAINLY think of the gameplay opportunities, the encounters, the potential of having say…, enemies either swithc gun arm on the go, thorwing you off.
Also Imagine a 4-8 Jackal shield wall where 4 are left handed and 4 are right handed. Making the edges of the shield wall optimal.
Rewatched the e3 Demo of Halo 2 and saw the glimpse of said shield wall of Jackals which were pretty cool! Would be nice to see something like that of a formation enemies like Jackals going to do in Halo Infinite.
Cant imagine having enemies switching hand or be of either, be THAT much work compared to other " little " details that 343 DO have alredy, might include.

Aaaaand here, typing like madlad again, hah!
Well, discuss at will. Im off to play some Halo, DRG or something. The night is young!
Take care folks!

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