Star Trek has it that you can now learn how to speak the Klingon Language as well as a few other of the alien languages that are featured throughout the series and the Star Trek universe.
I honestly think it’d be fun to learn how to speak like Sangheili or even a Grunt. The Jackals kind of scare me for some reason, lol.
What are your thoughts on 343,Microsoft, or a third party company coming up with a book or books that teach you how to speak different alien languages that are featured throughout the Halo series and Universe?
Duolingo has Klingon and High Valyrian, for example. There’s no question I would put some time into learning Sangheili. Right now I’m used to using the app to do lessons and its pretty cool. In fact, a member of this community could put something together. I just saw a thread asking about the Sangheili language the other day.
No.
First off, it’s just dumb. In the first game the Elites were literally just reversed and distorted marine dialogue, and second, they’re aliens that have different jaw and tongue structure from humans. Thirdly, everyone hates Vale and I hope we never see her again or get to see her die. And finally, I highly doubt that 343i would be willing to go through the expense for a fanbase that it has consistently found itself at creative odds with. The only reason they’re going back to the classic Halo art style isn’t out of love for the fans but a desire to make more money.
I have been interested in learning the Covenant/Sangheili language since Halo 3. Each of the races have their own native language, but the most commonly used language seems to be that of the Sangheili. There was a rumor a long time ago from a friend in our massive group who visited Bungie studios during the Halo 3 & Halo Reach era that there was a sort of language already in development, but it was probably just that - a rumor. Still interesting to think that there could be some canonical or loosely canonical material lying around for the Sangheili translation.
I think it would be a cool idea if executed correctly.
More info on Covenant languages:
https://halo.fandom.com/wiki/Covenant_languages
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> Duolingo has Klingon and High Valyrian, for example. There’s no question I would put some time into learning Sangheili. Right now I’m used to using the app to do lessons and its pretty cool. In fact, a member of this community could put something together. I just saw a thread asking about the Sangheili language the other day.
That sounds awesome. I will have to look up Duolingo
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> First off, it’s just dumb. In the first game the Elites were literally just reversed and distorted marine dialogue, and second, they’re aliens that have different jaw and tongue structure from humans. Thirdly, everyone hates Vale and I hope we never see her again or get to see her die. And finally, I highly doubt that 343i would be willing to go through the expense for a fanbase that it has consistently found itself at creative odds with. The only reason they’re going back to the classic Halo art style isn’t out of love for the fans but a desire to make more money.
I wouldn’t call it dumb but that is your opinion and everyone is entitled to one. Being that they have a different jaw and tongue structure would make it interesting and a challenge to learn. I do agree with you about Vale, not sure about wanting to die part but the Halo Universe would be better if we didn’t have to play her again.
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> There was a rumor a long time ago from a friend in our massive group who visited Bungie studios during the Halo 3 & Halo Reach era that there was a sort of language already in development, but it was probably just that - a rumor. Still interesting to think that there could be some canonical or loosely canonical material lying around for the Sangheili translation.
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Who knows, maybe it wasn;t a rumor and the dialog just takes that long to write. I’m hoping that’s the case. Being able to speak Sangheili or grunt might be interesting in my opinion and it owuld mess with people that don;t understand what you’re saying. Could be a fun thing for us Halo gamers.
If it was in works at any point, it was likely partially completed or fully completed and never released simply because there was no need to release it. Cut productions happen all the time in industry.
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> If it was in works at any point, it was likely partially completed or fully completed and never released simply because there was no need to release it. Cut productions happen all the time in industry.
I wonder if there is anyone at Bungie or 343 we could contact to see what ever happened to that project and how to get it started again if it’s stopped.
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I would not know who to contact personally, but I imagine if there was anything to say on the topic, a representative of 343i will say something in this thread or when it is ready. Bungie has switched staff considerably since Halo Reach, so I would not bother Bungie.
Even if we never learn to speak their languages, it may be easier to learn to read and write them.
> Text, or writing, in the Covenant appears to be mostly triangle shapes and composed almost completely of equilateral triangles, except for a single dash-like shape that seems to serve the function of a period. The triangular characters have been seen oriented both in the horizontal left-to-right direction and in a vertical right-to-left direction. It should be noted that the horizontal form of this text was useful for both Brutes and Jackals in Halo: Uprising Issue 1 so far. Whether all of the species that are or were in the Covenant use this form of text is currently unknown.
This quote is from the page linked by Cassandra 075 above. It’s very possible that the languages and translations provided by various sources do not align, and we wouldn’t be able to piece together an entire written or spoken language. It’s possible that authors threw together different symbols in their writings without respecting their translations.
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> This quote is from the page linked by Cassandra 075 above. It’s very possible that the languages and translations provided by various sources do not align, and we wouldn’t be able to piece together an entire written or spoken language. It’s possible that authors threw together different symbols in their writings without respecting their translations.
Iirc the symbols used in the Halo Uprising comic as well as the symbols used on the Covenant themed map used in the Halo 3 Mythic Map Expansion do not correlate with the symbols used in the wiki article. This would mean that the majority of the Covenant symbols are for stylistic and fictional purposes with little to no consistency. This would indicate that no formal language is being used or at least was during this time period.
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> Iirc the symbols used in the Halo Uprising comic as well as the symbols used on the Covenant themed map used in the Halo 3 Mythic Map Expansion do not correlate with the symbols used in the wiki article. This would mean that the majority of the Covenant symbols are for stylistic and fictional purposes with little to no consistency. This would indicate that no formal language is being used or at least was during this time period.
Perhaps this is an opportunity for some ambitious community member to set everything straight!
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If there is no consistency or logic behind it, there might not be be any worth attempting to find meaning in things that just have no meaning.
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It’s our chance to put consistency and logic into it though. Completing the language might add tremendous value to future stories.
here is a link on halopedia that has the vowels language etc Sangheili (language) - Halopedia, the Halo wiki you cant speak it though because… well you know
I wouldn’t see them putting the time into it thanks to only a small niche, like FleetBattles was sadly.
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> here is a link on halopedia that has the vowels language etc Sangheili (language) - Halopedia, the Halo wiki you cant speak it though because… well you know
thank you
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I agree. putting consistency and logic into completing a language book for various types of Covenant species might add tremendous value to the community as a whole. Even though there will always be a few nah-sayers, I am convinced that it would be a good book to have. I look at it like this: Even if it only becomes a book laying on the coffee table left there for topic starters when guests are over, it’d still make 343 and Microsoft money and that in itself might be enough for them to consider making it a reality.
Nabbed this from a similar post on the topic.
Here is a document on what has been deciphered of the Sangheili language so far.
As found in the wiki source listed here, Sangheili is the primary language of the Covenant.
It seems we have a few dedicated people in this topic, so I would not be opposed to helping add to this document, despite the skepticism I have on how complete we can make it.
I was watching the Halo Reach commentary the other day and they said the language was created by using a program that would translate English into the Covenant language programmed by audio producer David Lieber. I don’t know if that guy has a Twitter but MAYBE he still has that program somewhere.
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No one said anything about vale or halo infinite’s art style
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> I was watching the Halo Reach commentary the other day and they said the language was created by using a program that would translate English into the Covenant language programmed by audio producer David Lieber. I don’t know if that guy has a Twitter but MAYBE he still has that program somewhere.
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> https://youtu.be/YhsbaA3pjEg?t=813
Wow! That is an amazing discovery! Any links to their social media?