Lack of Banished air units?

Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)

Blisterbacks are an okay air unit. But honestly, air just isn’t a that good in this game.

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> Blisterbacks are an okay air unit. But honestly, air just isn’t a that good in this game.

But thats the thing, unsc has some pretty good air units, like the vulture and the condor

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> Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)

Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.

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> > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.

i can cobfirm that shriuds are amazing late game. honestly banachees are a build a few type of unit

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> > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> > Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.
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> i can cobfirm that shriuds are amazing late game. honestly banachees are a build a few type of unit

Unless they have a wolvrine/reaver/sniper/ranger/ghost/engineer/nightingale, like literally too many units have detect for cloaking to be a good strat

Shrouds are better for their ability to protect your other air units and ground troops with their projectile defense. I loved walking my army up to a base that had nothing but siege and every shot got stopped.

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> Shrouds are better for their ability to protect your other air units and ground troops with their projectile defense. I loved walking my army up to a base that had nothing but siege and every shot got stopped.

Yeah but decently smart ppl will keep a few reavers/wolverines in their army at all times

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> > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> > > Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.
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> > i can cobfirm that shriuds are amazing late game. honestly banachees are a build a few type of unit
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> Unless they have a wolvrine/reaver/sniper/ranger/ghost/engineer/nightingale, like literally too many units have detect for cloaking to be a good strat

It’s less about the cloaking, it’s more about the point defense system

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> > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> Unless they have a wolvrine/reaver/sniper/ranger/ghost/engineer/nightingale, like literally too many units have detect for cloaking to be a good strat

Cloak isn’t what the shroud is good for. It will automatically deflect incoming enemy projectiles.

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> > > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> > > > Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.
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> Cloak isn’t what the shroud is good for. It will automatically deflect incoming enemy projectiles.

Wtf? i never heard of this?

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> > > > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> > > > > Don’t sleep on shrouds. The can shot down a ridiculous range of projectiles like AA misses, scorpion shots, wraith plasma, and even sniper shells. It’s absurd tbh.
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> Wtf? i never heard of this?

Yea, it’s a pretty strong support unit. A good idea to always have a couple no matter what army you’re building

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> > > > > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> > > > > i can cobfirm that shriuds are amazing late game. honestly banachees are a build a few type of unit
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> > > > Unless they have a wolvrine/reaver/sniper/ranger/ghost/engineer/nightingale, like literally too many units have detect for cloaking to be a good strat
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> Yea, it’s a pretty strong support unit. A good idea to always have a couple no matter what army you’re building

Hmm…well still i would prefer they had something like the vampire aswell tbh

I think the banshees are too weak

A decimus with a full pop of banshees with 5 engineers and 4 shrouds and all his passives plus glassing and vortex is a very effective air army that no UNSC air group, in my experience, can mess with… especially during 3v3, hit and run tactics while your allies go vehicles to mop up their anti air armies and bases.

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> > > > Normally is the covenant that controls the airs with their immense amount of air units, why is it they have only the banshee in this game? no phantoms, spirits or even vampires to help, just banshees (yes i understand the shroud and engineer are air units, but the engineer is a given, and the shroud feels like -Yoink- due to all the units with detect)
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> Unless they have a wolvrine/reaver/sniper/ranger/ghost/engineer/nightingale, like literally too many units have detect for cloaking to be a good strat

It’s not cloaking what makes shrouds a great unit, it’s the intercept ability.

The banished only have one less air unit than the UNSC, so I don’t think it’s too much of a problem. The only option I see is if there is a new air unit introduced with a new leader or the return of the vampire. It would have to replace the reaver, however, to keep the balance.

Banshees are pretty versatile. I think that’s the thing. A swarm of banshees can take out buildings, vehicles, and even other air pretty well. Maybe there’s just no reason to have more.
And, as stated, shrouds are great for their support. For their cloaking, I rarely see it used well (unless someone is able to sneak over a scarab or locust spam that way)

I hope the next Banished leader has Vampires!