your shield is so weak and takes so long to recharge and the weapons tuning made everything kill even faster. i feel like someone running around wearing nothing. halo used to take skill and was fun, now its just camp with overpowered weapons abilities and get lucky ordenance drops
Lol
You must have hated Halo 2 then. Just as fast.
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> You must have hated Halo 2 then. Just as fast.
He must have hated Halo 1-3 too.
In COD, I can one shot with a loadout weapon, from any range. Try to remember that.
You two are both correct. Kill times are way faster now than they were when 4 first came out, but they are just as fast as they were in 2. The difference is that in 2 you usually started with SMG’s and pistols instead of DMR’s and BR’s. If I wanted to get cross-mapped everywhere I go I’d go play COD.
I just spent three hours last night and played Halo 3. It’s so much more fun in my opinion.
You can use the regeneration field or the shielding perk. I don’t see the problem.
Then if 343i remove istant respawn , flinch and personal ordnance the game is almost perfect. In fact CTF is the best gametype (no PO and istant respawn)
> your shield is so weak and takes so long to recharge and the weapons tuning made everything kill even faster. i feel like someone running around wearing nothing. halo used to take skill and was fun, now its just camp with overpowered weapons abilities and get lucky ordenance drops
Before the update, Halo 4 used to have the slowest killtimes of any Halo title.
Also, CoD has 0.1s killtimes.
> You two are both correct. Kill times are way faster now than they were when 4 first came out, but they are just as fast as they were in 2. The difference is that in 2 you usually started with SMG’s and pistols instead of DMR’s and BR’s. If I wanted to get cross-mapped everywhere I go I’d go play COD.
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> I just spent three hours last night and played Halo 3. It’s so much more fun in my opinion.
In CE you can spawn with a cross-mapping 0.6 killing machine.
> You two are both correct. Kill times are way faster now than they were when 4 first came out, but they are just as fast as they were in 2. The difference is that in 2 you usually started with SMG’s and pistols instead of DMR’s and BR’s. If I wanted to get cross-mapped everywhere I go I’d go play COD.
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> I just spent three hours last night and played Halo 3. It’s so much more fun in my opinion.
Bungie eventually changed Halo 2 to be primarily BR starts. Halo 3 is mostly BR starts as well.
Having fast kill times does not make it a less skillful games. Quake and Unreal Tournament have some insane kill times and it takes a lot of skill to be good at those games.
Halo 3 is not mostly BR starts. Like I said, I just spent a few hours yesterday playing team slayer and maybe 25% of the games were BR starts. Even then, the BR can’t hit somebody from across the map and has a larger bullet spread than Halo 4’s does.
If you’re seeing similarities between CoD kill time and Halo kill times, you’re either really good at Halo, or really bad at CoD.
COD really doesn’t have kill times. I can shoot someone’s foot and get a kill. The Halo kill times are now on par with past titles and players need to learn work on their positioning. The map designs and instant respawn don’t help, but players still need to adjust. IMO, it is better than it was pre-update
Has OP ever even played cod, since the kill times in that game are A LOT faster than in Halo 4. Alltho I agree that shield recharge should be like 5-6 seconds now instead of 7-8 seconds
> > your shield is so weak and takes so long to recharge and the weapons tuning made everything kill even faster. i feel like someone running around wearing nothing. halo used to take skill and was fun, now its just camp with overpowered weapons abilities and get lucky ordenance drops
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> Before the update, Halo 4 used to have the slowest killtimes of any Halo title.
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> Also, CoD has 0.1s killtimes.
Reach had slower killtimes because of bloom and armor lock
plz compare halo 4 to other halo titles other than cod, OP
OP have you ever even played COD? I play both Halo and COD religiously and Halo takes a lot longer to get kills compared to COD.
The kill times we have now are nothing that haven’t been in the past halo games. They are nothing close to a COD kill time. Be thankful the 3sk CE pistol isn’t around.
> You two are both correct. Kill times are way faster now than they were when 4 first came out, but they are just as fast as they were in 2. The difference is that in 2 you usually started with SMG’s and pistols instead of DMR’s and BR’s. If I wanted to get cross-mapped everywhere I go I’d go play COD.
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> I just spent three hours last night and played Halo 3. It’s so much more fun in my opinion.
This exactly. I love logic 
> The kill times we have now are nothing that haven’t been in the past halo games. They are nothing close to a COD kill time. Be thankful the 3sk CE pistol isn’t around.
I would love to even have the Anniversary pistol just for one day.
OT: I don’t really consider the kill times to be that bad but the recharge time could use a very slight bump up only after it starts to recharge since it gets a bit boring waiting those couple seconds longer which seems like an eternity.
I just want lower magnetism and better shield recharge times…
ffs 343