While the system is bad, disabling it is not the solution. I think everyone should get one free betrayal, and then after that, the person they killed gets the option to boot. At least that’s reliable.
While I agree that the system we have is a big pile of fail. If you think it’s bad now. Remove the one penalty that trolls have to deal with and it’s gonna get FAR worse. Removing the boot system is a TERRIBLE idea.
Besides, I check my fire around allies, don’t grenade spam team mates, and watch where I’m driving if I know friendlies are around. I’ve never, I should repeat this, NEVER been booted for an accidental betray. Also, usually if someone gets me twice I usually get the option. Unless they’re being a blatant Yoink, I’ll usually forgive them. Third time? Your butt is GONE friend.
OP: If you’re getting booted every time, with no option to kick your trolls, seems like the game thinks you make a habit of it? Or are you just really unlucky, and always have n00bs running into your rockets/wraith/splaser?
I have a great one for you - playing BTB on Spire, and we’re playing 7v3 and we’re ahead like 27-17. The rest of my “team” gets bored and starts betraying/booting each other.
Counting all of the minuses for us, we end up 2v2 tied at 27, and they have the vehicles and the heavy weapons locked up.
> While the system is bad, disabling it is not the solution. I think everyone should get one free betrayal, and then after that, the person they killed gets the option to boot. At least that’s reliable.
I was betrayed TWICE by the same guy in a BTB for the sniper I picked up, and I wasnt given a boot option either time.
The solution here is not “get rid of it.” Maybe refine it, rework it, but not just abandoning it wholesale and letting the griefers run wild.
It’s unlikely that 343i will do anything about it now, though. They might implement an improved system in Halo 4, but I’d say Reach’s boot system is the best we’re gonna get.
I agree with the replies, sorry OP but we need it, like the other members have said it will mean more betraying, imagine the same player being able to betray you every time you spawned, trust me some would do it.
okay but then they should rework it…i mean its not my fault if a teammate watches me driving a full armed warthog and jumps just in front of me…result= kick
…or even it its accidently…result= kick
the kicking system needs to be redone from scratch T_T
I don’t think they should get rid of it but i really hate getting booted for an accidental betrayal while the turds that betray you on “purpose” don’t have the boot option…well most of the time unless they keep betraying you…
> how do you think about it?? the current kicking system in reach is buggy like hell.
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> 1.0:
> i get into a benshe or whatever…someone of my team begins to destroy it and kills me… i get no option to kick
>
> 1.1:
> i get into a banshe or bla bla…someone of my team begins to destroy my vehicle…i kill him…he will get for 1000000000000000% the kicking option.
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> 3.0:
> you have the spartan laser…you aim, lead and shoot…a troll of your team runs right infront of it = he will 1000000% have his kicking option
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> …there are tons of this Yoink!. dnont know whos responsible for this kicking system, its nothing but -Yoink!-. so please disable it -.-
The only way I’d be ok with this is if they got rid of the stupid betrayel option. It should really be common sense to 343i but so many idiots claim it’s part of halo’s charm but all it does is ruin it for others, theres nothing fun about being betrayed or kicked because of some idiot who either got in way or someone who was trying to on purpose getting betrayed.
> > Or alternatively, you must stop betraying teammates. Accidental or otherwise.
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> Exactly.
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> I always kick a betraying team mate, if the other guy can’t shoot then that’s his problem, it shouldn’t become mine.
A bit harsh, i’ve had it several times where someone in my team is either not paying attention or just plain stupid enough to run into my path while i’m in the middle of a battle and i end up taking them out,
not my fault if you can see whats going on around you.
> how do you think about it?? the current kicking system in reach is buggy like hell.
>
> 1.0:
> i get into a benshe or whatever…someone of my team begins to destroy it and kills me… i get no option to kick
>
> 1.1:
> i get into a banshe or bla bla…someone of my team begins to destroy my vehicle…i kill him…he will get for 1000000000000000% the kicking option.
>
> 3.0:
> you have the spartan laser…you aim, lead and shoot…a troll of your team runs right infront of it = he will 1000000% have his kicking option
>
> …there are tons of this Yoink!. dnont know whos responsible for this kicking system, its nothing but -Yoink!-. so please disable it -.-
Do NOT Betray them at all! If they continue to betray you, you WILL Eventually get the boot option.
The O.P is stating he’s not trying to betray anyone, stupid teammates not paying any attention to what the other players are doing. I’ve had it happen many times, your zero’d in on your enemy with a laser or sniper and some idiot runs right in front of you when you fire and boot’s you. I had a guy yesterday while i was in a tank the whole game shoot at me, use a plasma pistol to keep me from doing anything. I kept ignoring him but when the enemy team destroyed me it took him out too and i was booted. The system is broken. I would be for 1 free betray then the option automatically come’s up after that no matter what. Or put friendly fire in and that will fix a lot of grief. The player’s in reach are the worst of any halo game to date. Never seemed to have this many issues in previous halo games. And it shows in these forums too. So many people flame other’s for just stating their opinion’s and griefs about problem’s in the game.
> > how do you think about it?? the current kicking system in reach is buggy like hell.
> >
> > 1.0:
> > i get into a benshe or whatever…someone of my team begins to destroy it and kills me… i get no option to kick
> >
> > 1.1:
> > i get into a banshe or bla bla…someone of my team begins to destroy my vehicle…i kill him…he will get for 1000000000000000% the kicking option.
> >
> > 3.0:
> > you have the spartan laser…you aim, lead and shoot…a troll of your team runs right infront of it = he will 1000000% have his kicking option
> >
> > …there are tons of this Yoink!. dnont know whos responsible for this kicking system, its nothing but -Yoink!-. so please disable it -.-
>
> Do NOT Betray them at all! If they continue to betray you, you WILL Eventually get the boot option.
Funny you mentioned that because sometimes I will have been betrayed 4-5 times in a row without a boot option while the boot system would kick me once if I betray. I remember halo 3 boot system being worse than all the person had to do was annoy the entire team, then commit suicide to get the entire team kicked.