Six’s sacrifice was heroic no doubt and I know that it would cause a paradox in the series’ story, but I don’t understand how Captain Keyes would allow Noble Six to stay on Reach without any argument and not ordered him onto the pelican and made a team of five marines take his place, or at least leave a Pelican for him to board the ship after the covenant cruiser was taken care of.
It would be like throwing away an F-22 fighter when you could send a couple of helicopters to handle the job.
Marines would’ve been slaughtered by the Zealots and Field Marshal. Six would’ve been needed.
Still don’t see why they couldn’t have sent a Pelican for him, though. The fight probably didn’t take long to retake the MAC, then shoot down the Covenant Carrier. After the immediate threat was gone, they would’ve had the thirty seconds needed.
Could’ve drove right up to the MAC platform, maybe even grabbed Emile’s body to attempt revival as was done for Linda in First Strike. Chief and Six were the only two hyper lethal vectors. Chief alone wrecked the Covenant, Forerunners, and Flood on Installation 04, so imagine Chief, Six, and potentially Emile.
It wasn’t Keyes choice, Six made his decision, and helped Keyes and Cortana to get out of Reach. Oh, and 5 marines? That sounds more of a joke, seriously. But again, why wasnt help being sent for six? I dont know and I think Six knew that he would die, no doubt, but he still gave hell of a fight against the covenant.
I believe that even if a Pelican was sent, Six would have elected to stay behind to make sure that no other surprises awaited the Pillar of Autumn. In the cut-scene, we see that Noble Six got off the mass driver only when the Autumn has taken off.
Im more intrigued by how the -Yoink- that small Mac gun took out a carrier in just a few shots
Because since Bungie retconned Keyes into the game they couldn’t have brought Noble Six on board if he wasn’t in Halo: Combat Evolved.
Keyes was a terrible leader, but I digress. I agree with the comments that 6 would have stayed.
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> Marines would’ve been slaughtered by the Zealots and Field Marshal. Six would’ve been needed.
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> Still don’t see why they couldn’t have sent a Pelican for him, though. The fight probably didn’t take long to retake the MAC, then shoot down the Covenant Carrier. After the immediate threat was gone, they would’ve had the thirty seconds needed.
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> Could’ve drove right up to the MAC platform, maybe even grabbed Emile’s body to attempt revival as was done for Linda in First Strike. Chief and Six were the only two hyper lethal vectors. Chief alone wrecked the Covenant, Forerunners, and Flood on Installation 04, so imagine Chief, Six, and potentially Emile.
I think Emile would have been out for the count. But Sierra B-312 and Sierra-117 would have wrecked the ring faster… Not to mention that flood would never get close.
But at that point, you have to remember that autumn was in atmosphere and most pelicans would not survive direct contact with covie cruisers alone, just saying the covies are quick. Not to mention the pelican model D77 was not made to handle high speed pursuits. And Noble Six opted to remain behind and keep covering the Pillar of Autumn. So yeah, much as it sucks, Six was not leaving until he/she was sure the Autumn got away.
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> Im more intrigued by how the -Yoink- that small Mac gun took out a carrier in just a few shots
Covenant Cruiser, actually. And they drop their shields to fire their weapons or to glass planets, so a couple well placed Mac rounds or high velocity explosives would wreck it. Not to mention the fact the bridge is only a couple levels above that particular glassing array.
The launch couldn’t of been avoided but I’m sure a pelican gunship could of been spared for his departure. I doubt that the pelican would of landed on the Autumn as it took off though… The Captain’s pelican took a long time so there would of been no chance 6’s pelican would of made it back.
And yes, a marine team would of had a similar fate like Emile’s if they were sent to secure the MAC…
When I first got Reach I was confused as to why Six didn’t go with Keyes. I didn’t notice the slight gesture towards the MAC gun.
Yes, Six was needed to take the MAC and ensure the PoA’s safe departure, but after Six shoots the cruiser, Keyes’ pelican flies to the PoA. After.
Why couldn’t he have just picked up Six on the way? Just seems kinda dumb.
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> I believe that even if a Pelican was sent, Six would have elected to stay behind to make sure that no other surprises awaited the Pillar of Autumn. In the cut-scene, we see that Noble Six got off the mass driver only when the Autumn has taken off.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. Six stayed behind to make sure nothing would harm the Autumn as it took off. Something a Marine could possibly do with no resistance but not worth risking given the cargo on board the Autumn
What I reckon is when Emile got killed in that cutscene, Then six gets to the big MAC cannon, when six is done shooter the Covandant cruiser,
keyes should’ve sent another pelican to pickup Six. Cuz Six deserved to live! If it wasent for Six, chief would’ve not makes it, and pillar of autumn would’ve blown up and humanity would fall for ever. Right or not right?
And yes, Six stayed too to be Heroic
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> What I reckon is when Emile got killed in that cutscene, Then six gets to the big MAC cannon, when six is done shooter the Covandant cruiser,
> keyes should’ve sent another pelican to pickup Six. Cuz Six deserved to live! If it wasent for Six, chief would’ve not makes it, and pillar of autumn would’ve blown up and humanity would fall for ever. Right or not right?
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> And yes, Six stayed too to be Heroic
Another pelican to go where? Autumn was the only ship to make it out of reach. If it took the captain that long to get to the PoA, another CVS class covenant Cruiser would have hit the autumn had Keyes sent another pelican. No. Six knew what he/she was doing and so did Keyes.
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> > 2535425126791753;13:
> > What I reckon is when Emile got killed in that cutscene, Then six gets to the big MAC cannon, when six is done shooter the Covandant cruiser,
> > keyes should’ve sent another pelican to pickup Six. Cuz Six deserved to live! If it wasent for Six, chief would’ve not makes it, and pillar of autumn would’ve blown up and humanity would fall for ever. Right or not right?
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> > And yes, Six stayed too to be Heroic
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> Another pelican to go where? Autumn was the only ship to make it out of reach. If it took the captain that long to get to the PoA, another CVS class covenant Cruiser would have hit the autumn had Keyes sent another pelican. No. Six knew what he/she was doing and so did Keyes.
On second thought… Your right,
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> and made a team of five marines take his place
If the Marines Keyes had with him were as worthless as all the ones I’ve played alongside in the Halo franchise then I don’t think 50 of them could have gotten the job done.
Ya guys I dont know if some of you noticed but when the first Halo game came out. There was no Noble Six or noble team. Not even Lore wise back then. So making Six survive in Reach would not make any sense. And people would have been confused and pissed off that he did right after playing Reach for the first time.
The Dnend Legion
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> Ya guys I dont know if some of you noticed but when the first Halo game came out. There was no Noble Six or noble team. Not even Lore wise back then. So making Six survive in Reach would not make any sense. And people would have been confused and pissed off that he did right after playing Reach for the first time.
> The Dnend Legion
Obviously. But as the OP said he knows it would have caused some problems with the story and everything, he’s just questioning why Keyes just left him behind like that. When Keyes chose to leave Six behind he wasn’t thinking “I gotta leave that boy behind because he wasn’t in Halo CE”.
5 Marines wouldn’t be good enough to get past the zealots, but a team of ODSTs
would. The Pillar of Autumn had enough of them in backhand. And ODSTs kick
you-know-what, so they’d probably do that with minimal loss. A tactic they could
have used, using a jetpack to pass the zealots safely and giving each other cover,
while handling the MAC.
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> 5 Marines wouldn’t be good enough to get past the zealots, but a team of ODSTs
> would. The Pillar of Autumn had enough of them in backhand. And ODSTs kick
> you-know-what, so they’d probably do that with minimal loss. A tactic they could
> have used, using a jetpack to pass the zealots safely and giving each other cover,
> while handling the MAC.
Until having to deal with the other covies… And that is five lives to one. Old but true statement. The good of the many outweighs the good of the few.