Keep up the armor criticism

Excuse us for calling out an equally valid component of this PRODUCT to its producer and trying to keep alive negotiations for the only aspect of their costs for said PRODUCT being absolute BS where as your concern is a thing that has no bearing on the actual profits for of said product apart from engagement. Sorry some of us want to not totally mooch off of the team for this “free” experience, yet not get totally scammed by it, and still have that fun too for the things your worried about. Yeah, “Power to the players.” I want bugs and poor game design to be fixed too. Don’t be narrow sighted. The cosmetics are just as pressing an issue with the game and the only one that directly contributes to the longevity of it because guess what… Its a business and needs profits or else the game dies and your gameplay concerns mean nothing. Not to be too corny, but its just as much “Power to the payers”.

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Fair points, for sure, and as far as the amount of work for the artists to get the 3d modeling, textures, etc. converted over I absolutely agree. I do think what 343 did here is foolish if not downright wrong, and I really do hope and expect they’ll change it given time. I think you’re right that it won’t be an expensive change, either.

My point in my comment above was that, while not an expensive or necessarily “difficult” change, it still does take more work than just “flipping a switch” (which is what the post I was replying to suggested). A lot of people seem to have the impression that changes like this in games are as simple as going into some setting and, as the post said, “flipping a switch.” As someone who does both development and QA work, it is never that simple, even for the simplest of changes.

They have to do testing; they have to see how the armor behaves in-game, from far distances or during certain animation, in various poses, during the intro and outro cinematic, etc. and that involves a whole lot of testing, for every edge case, every possibility, for item that is changed. I don’t think that will take months or anything, but it does take significantly more than two seconds to “flip a switch.” Even as you explained, some artistry work has to be done, which would take more than “flipping a switch.”

So, in short, yes I do agree with everything you said, but I don’t think that actually changes the truth and validity of my own point.

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No yeah, definitely and totally agree. And thank you for looking into my point, like I was implying just not letting your point lead to someone making the conclusion of “they can’t do it automatically so its fine what they have been doing” and sorry for making fun of us both with the leading with “I have x experience” bit. My brand of humor. Also true there might be a bit of a factor I missed to run through a series of tests to verify the rig and textures worked as expected in tandem.
Either way I’m urgent and vocal for this because I foresee them letting this go, trying to address it later and having some logistical mess with refunding with blowback or failing to address it well and the seething in the community turning to outrage. I want this game to do well. But yeah, this is ridiculous.

Also side note: stumbled onto one of the artist’s portfolio from the art team with bungie back in reach days a few hours ago and they talked about having higher resolution normal maps and their high-poly versions of the assets they had to “dumb down” and project to various low poly/low resolution levels for LOD rendering and to even work in some cases on the xbox360. So they definitely have access to the higher detail assets. I’m almost convinced of my assessment now of the workflow, apart from someone ripping the infinite and reach assets and comparing the models in maya/blender or someone from 343 proving they remodeled it or did something crazy inefficient like that.

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Its okay to be wrong bro, but to keep on trying tk act like your not?

Dont you tire of being ratio’d?

I recommend you stop ironing out the wrinkles in your brain.

Halo has always had customization
The sheer amount of money companies make on it and the amount of player backlash to infinite’s design proof it matters to a lot of people and they feel it is very important.

You dont need to understand game design to tell what games and progression systems aren’t fun just like you dont need to be a chef to tell a meal is bad.

So we’ll keep complaining about the things we dont like. Telling players NOT to give feedback on a topic YOU don’t care about isn’t gunna make this game anybetter.

TL;DR: You’re not just wrong, you’re stupid. Jog on bro

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Halo infinite armor customization is very restricted and the all the items available in the shop are low quality and are really boring they all look the same and are overpriced I will buy something if it is actually cool but so far I have seen barely anything that interests me and even if it’s all for more money its not working because I’m not buying and the reason I quit Fortnite was because all they care about is money and don’t give a crap about the fan base and it makes me want to quit halo infinite

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Where the hell is CQB!

Did it work yet? Are they making changes? I have not been on the game since first week of March and have no intentions on returning anytime soon.

This is the first Halo I have not played every day for the first year of its life…quite sad honestly.

I don’t think it worked. 343i successfully weaponized FOMO against the playerbase and are making money off of the only working part of the game. The shop.

What are you on??? TONS AND TONS OF PEOPLE WERE SKEPTICAL AND WORRIED.

And you aren’t helping

Not really sure what this dude was talking about but…

The community despised the “coating” system from the beginning when it was announced. Lots of reddit threads about how bad it sounds.

What does “Halo community thought they knew better than 343 is what killed Halo” have to do with the developers making the game like CoD and Fortnite? All that statement shows is that 343 listened to none of the Halo community and just said to us “pi$$ off, we will make what we want to make more money, and you WILL play and enjoy it because it is Halo.”