When I read it correctly the USMC or some parts of them like Halo or support it g feel free to correct me anytime.
But those quotes sounds like “we love it that you are fighting for the military in sci-fi, but how about you joining our USMC?”
I don’t know how US citizens see that but me as an European really don’t like it that a military organization is again exploiting the gaming industry and player base for recruiting. It’s one click to another and whoops you are at the recruiting page.
Its bad enough that US military organizations heavily influence the filming industry but for me as a gamer it’s even more worse that they are doing it here.
Reminds me of the gamescom where I and a friend where asked by us soldiers if we might think about a career in their ranks… Mad system tbh…
As I stated above, maybe I interpreted it totally wrong but I want everyone, especially my US friends, to watch closely to news like those but in gaming in general when military organizations sneak in.
In the US there are tens of thousands of servicemember and veterans that joined the military and served in part because they loved Halo growing up. They’ve always gone hand in hand. There are still an enormous number of servicemembers within the Halo community. But at the end of the day 343i can’t control what tactics recruiters use to bring people in. Recruiters are going to recruit. I’ve been playing these games since I was 14 years old and I’m also an Army veteran. The military for me was a net positive and vastly improved my life and I can thank Halo for that initial motivation when I was a kid.
The recruiters will do what they always do.
However what you have to understand is the US military and entertainment have a mostly symbiotic relationship. the Companies (if they are wanting to use military gear for sounds, or a film) will get the gear and even people to help use it from the military and in return the military gets a say in the story or how the US military is depicted.
If you are worried about free speech that is perfectly protected as many military surplus or weapons can be purchased by civilians (though the NFA makes it annoying to do for full auto guns and the ATF is actively cooking up new ways to stifle the second amendment). So there are ways around it if the government doesn’t approve of the depiction and wont lend support.
What your describing sounds a bit more like just a recruiter going “hey you like Halo join the real Marines here”. which is much less involved with the series directly and more just a saying they are using to boost recruitment.
If you aren’t into clans just ignore all that. If you are into clans then yeah there’s a lot of clans that are just hardcore about organized ranking and stuff.
It’s cool people create communities around what ever their into. This is a shooter game so I’m not surprised real soldiers start soldier clans and kick -Yoink!- online together.
I think you might be over analyzing the situation. Besides if the military was going to try to recruit through video games, it would be games like unicorn princess or something like that. Those are the types they’re really interested in recruiting
You do know this game is military based right? Also as a USAF vet I always find it funny when europeans bad mouth the US military. Europe has cut there own militaries to the bone while enjoying the protection US military provides them. An since the US military is an all volunteer force it makes sense they use games, movies commercials etc to recruit.
Let’s not forget the US military branches all have their own esports teams. Servicemembers are gamers too and the military sponsors some of these events.
In some ways I can understand OP’s concern. This said, I still disagree on the issue of barring the USMC or any other military branch from being involved with Halo in any way. I myself am a US Navy veteran, and in many ways you could say a big influence in my decision to serve was the Halo universe. The Halo universe itself, at least when it comes to the UNSC, is derived and based off of the military. In some ways it gets a bit cringy when direct comparisons come up, or when someone joins up just because of Halo or any other FPS, but you can’t deny that Halo plays a role in recruitment numbers.
Also, I would be surprised if the marines didn’t take advantage of the fact that in the games we always have computer controlled marines with us as our allies. Those marines in game being the direct descendants of today’s marines. Frankly, if they didn’t it’d be a huge missed opportunity.
The members of the military in any nation you’d care to mention are the shield under which you enjoy your freedoms. Perhaps you should remember that when proclaiming to be embarrassed to see them being mentioned.
I wouldn’t touch that topic if I were you. US citizens are quite sensitive about the military and could get offended and or attack (verbally) if they don’t like what you’re saying.
Yeah this isn’t really a topic to be understood by many outside, I would voice your opinion though. There are some good arguments to why we shouldn’t have a partnership but arguably as-good arguments for the U.S. militaries to organize teams to recruit on the game. The franchise itself having a long relationship with branches of the military before its not really beneficial to anybody denying them the airtime.
As someone actually in the USMC, I don’t really see this as an issue. Even if I wasn’t, I don’t see how it is an issue either.
It’s weird how you say the US military influences games, while playing a military inspired shooter with MARINES that shout Oorah and motivation speeches in it. It’s kinda odd. When I play the old games and I hear the good ol Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps Johnson do his thing, it always gave me goosebumps even when I was a dumb teenager. If you really don’t like military inspired stuff, why do you engage with said media?
The military also has eSports teams, so should they be barred as well? Why should they be barred from trying to recruit anyway? Should recruiters be barred from doing things in high schools, like attending football games, to avoid giving people a decent option for their future? Recruiting is a process to see if someone is fit and willing to join the service. If someone doesn’t want to join the military, no amount of good will “recruiting” is going to get them to join.
If you don’t like our military, just say so bro lol
Don’t get this at all , I think its great so many service men and women game, and the clans are a massive part of the community, appreciate all the militarys hard work so we can play the games we love safely ! I’m not in the military myself and from the UK, but still enjoy seeing the clans and deffinately think they should be part of the game, if you don’t like it play Minecraft or something …
I think you meant to say " Don’t advertise military branches or recruitment links in halo games"… Master Chief, Petty Officer is a naval rank in the US Navy… Good luck changing the names and ranks of the game characters over 5 games in bud.
Also, You got something else backwards. Military doesn’t influence Hollywood. I got a crap load of fellow veteran friends who can’t watch actions movies due to how bad Hollywood screws up simple gun fights. Misrepresenting silencers. not counting bullets or never reloading. people diving into a pool with a grenade ext. If Hollywood was realistic, it shows all the down time people have in the military, safety briefs, death by power point presentation and more. Rather Hollywood portrays maybe 6 hours of action not including the countless years it took leading up to it. Next time you see a fox hole you might want to ask, who used an E-tool to dig it. This is where 343i may have gotten their story plot device from… with everything happening outside of the games rather than getting to play through it…
Jesus, cancel culture BS. Stop being so sensitive and trying to champion for something that isn’t an issue. We don’t go talking about how the US military had to bail out Europe in WW2 all the time, just drop it man.
I know that US military is trying everything to get the newer generation into the military for imperealistic stuff But it seems you have no idea of european military and - sadly for you to hear - how you depend to have EU as allies ^^ but you sadly correct about germany, we cutted and backstabed our military.
But it seems you have no idea of european military and - sadly for you to hear - how you depend to have EU as allies ^^ but you sadly correct about germany, we cutted and backstabed our military.