I’m seing all theses posts about bringing Cortana back (by earliest Halo 5) after her death at the end of Halo 4. I just think that she shouldn’t come back, she went out the best way possible, and it was done so well. When characters die, they should stay dead, especially if the death is very well done. I don’t like when they bring dead characters back into franchises (really happens in movies more than games). So I think they should keep Cortana dead, and let her rest in peace.
Fragments, copies, shards and bytes. She never really lived, how could she die? If she didn’t die then she can’t be kept dead.
Just don’t replace her with a black box…
> I’m seing all theses posts about bringing Cortana back (by earliest Halo 5) after her death at the end of Halo 4. I just think that she shouldn’t come back, she went out the best way possible, and it was done so well. When characters die, they should stay dead, especially if the death is very well done. I don’t like when they bring dead characters back into franchises (really happens in movies more than games). So I think they should keep Cortana dead, and let her rest in peace.
Thank you. I totally agree. It was done really well and I don’t see why they would kill her off with no hints that she’ll return if they actually plan to bring her back. If she comes back, in any way, it will be super cheap and would take away from Halo 4’s ending.
Jon needs a new AI and one that’s massively different from Cortana. It can only work like that, unless they don’t plan on giving him a new AI (which is an essential part of Halo IMO). I would be willing to do quite a lot to get BB from the Thursday War to be her replacement, I would love to see their relationship evolving from cold hatred to a deep bromance.
The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
> The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
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> The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
I think they were referring to Halo 4 only with that. They did say they kept in mind that Chief needs to progress as a human throughout the new story.
And I completely agree, it’s much more meaningful if Cortana is gone, and we see Chief try to accept her death rather than deny it.
Being a martyr for humanity is the best way for her to go out. She will be missed, but everyone dies eventually.
> The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
When did 117 loose it and when did Cortana need to find it?
> > The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
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> When did 117 loose it and when did Cortana need to find it?
Not literally finding it, it means to flesh out their human side to make a better story.
> > > The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
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> > When did 117 loose it and when did Cortana need to find it?
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> Not literally finding it, it means to flesh out their human side to make a better story.
This is why i dont like the story of 4, there is this new tremendous enemy in this new place with new enemies and old and they are sticking stuff about these two every where they could.
I didnt care.
> > > > The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
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> > > When did 117 loose it and when did Cortana need to find it?
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> > Not literally finding it, it means to flesh out their human side to make a better story.
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> This is why i dont like the story of 4, there is this new tremendous enemy in this new place with new enemies and old and they are sticking stuff about these two every where they could.
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> I didnt care.
Not really. Both were balanced out perfectly fine in my opinion.
Why didn’t you care?
> > > > > The Reclaimer Trilogy is about John and Cortana’s relationship, along with finding their humanity, if I recall correctly.
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> > > > When did 117 loose it and when did Cortana need to find it?
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> > > Not literally finding it, it means to flesh out their human side to make a better story.
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> > This is why i dont like the story of 4, there is this new tremendous enemy in this new place with new enemies and old and they are sticking stuff about these two every where they could.
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> > I didnt care.
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> Not really. Both were balanced out perfectly fine in my opinion.
> Why didn’t you care?
Dude, the Didact appeared a total of two times… TWO. The rest of his appearances were literally just a ball floating around. There was NO explanation of the new Covenant, they were just there and you fight them.
Meanwhile each mission has at least a couple of occasions of Cortana going nutty and 117 emoting over that.
> Dude, the Didact appeared a total of two times… TWO. The rest of his appearances were literally just a ball floating around. There was NO explanation of the new Covenant, they were just there and you fight them.
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> Meanwhile each mission has at least a couple of occasions of Cortana going nutty and 117 emoting over that.
Yea, I got along to thinking of it, and I feel more and more that 343I primarily built the Campaign to be geared more forwards those who read the all the novels and already knew the Didact (for long time fans, he’s a character that needs no introduction), and how the Covenant Fleet on Requiem got there and where they came from.
In the end, it’s sort of simply minor details. I mean: did you really need to know the exact in-depth origins of both the Didact and a band of Covenant believers to understand what went on during the Campaign?
> In the end, it’s sort of simply minor details. I mean: did you really need to know the exact in-depth origins of both the Didact and a band of Covenant believers to understand what went on during the Campaign?
Well the later is pretty important. The Didact was but ‘an ancient evil’ who had awoken, we (or just the non-Halo geeks) understood that.
But considering everything that happened in Halo 3 between the Covenant and Humanity it was quite underwhelming when I saw the explanation for it being that ‘a lot can happen in 4 years’. Think about it, you’re BFFs with the likes of Arbiter and Rtas Vadum, you even witness the elites in attendance at the human ceremony at Voi. Nek minute your off killing elites again, they may not be the good elites from Halo 3 but how’s the player to understand that? Surely you can’t tell me that’s minor?
I guess some of it is cleared up in Spartan Ops with Jul Mdama but players only saw him three weeks after release.
Agree, Cortana needs to stay gone. If it was up to me, the Didact would be dead along with her, but luckily for the fanboys its not up to me.
The biggest problem with H4s story is the fact that no one really seems all that interested in finding anything out about anything.
John and Cortana never ask whats up with the Covenant being around again, the Didact never asks whats been going on in the 100k years since he’s been in a cryptum, no one seems to ask John or Cortana what they were doing on Requiem in the first place. I mean, what the -Yoink-? Everyone just shows up, jumps straight into whatever they feel like, and thats it? No one cares to find out the whys or whats anymore?
Whatever. I will say, that if Cortana does end up being brought back, I think she should be brought back as a contender-class monitor. People seem to think the Librarian AI on Requiem did something to save a piece of Cortana, and if that ends up being the case I wanna see Contender Cortana.
I agree, the conclusion to her story is a good one. Everyone was scared that she would die a rampant monstrosity in the clutches of the gravemind back in Halo 3. It’s a good thing that she died saving the chief after helping him save humanity.
> Yea, I got along to thinking of it, and I feel more and more that 343I primarily built the Campaign to be geared more forwards those who read the all the novels and already knew the Didact (for long time fans, he’s a character that needs no introduction), and how the Covenant Fleet on Requiem got there and where they came from.
Yeah and that’s a problem. I’m not saying that every detail needs to be explained thoroughly you can leave some stuff being vague but half the game is too much.
> In the end, it’s sort of simply minor details. I mean: did you really need to know the exact in-depth origins of both the Didact and a band of Covenant believers to understand what went on during the Campaign?
Minor details? Half of the story is a minor detail?
Without that half of the story we got what we got here, 117 running around pressing buttons and the idea of pressing buttons is used to describe what went on in Halo 4 because the story was so empty. Nothing outside of 117 and Cortana made any impression.
> Fragments, copies, shards and bytes. She never really lived, how could she die? If she didn’t die then she can’t be kept dead.
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> Just don’t replace her with a black box…
By halo 4’s time he’s already pressing his age limit if not already past 7. Pagnosky didnt want him to outlive her.
I dunno, a file thats too fragmented for programs to read is a good as “dead” to me. Or a program missing essential files with no back-up that just bugs out.
Seeing as how my first external harddrive is unreadable, i’d call all files on it “dead”.