Keep canonical elements out of mulitiplayer

Why do people want to keep multiplayer limited so it can be canon?

So many things could have been in Halo 4 if the multiplayer was just multiplayer. For example, Elites were cut out so the Red and Blue team could fight.

Like seriously, at the end of the day its a video game. Its supposed to be fun. Why wouldn’t you want the most content possible and limit yourself to some story element that wasn’t even expanded on at all except for in the initial wargames cutscene.

Scrap this Infinity stuff and just give us an amazing multiplayer that isn’t limited to being canon.

I wholeheartedly agree. Or, at least make a way in the canon for us to have all of the features we’d like. Gamplay should never be sacrificed for canonity.

For everything canon took away, canon could also bring back. I don’t think canonical limitations are so much of the problem as just a lack of imagination, time and/or effort on 343’s end. I mean, they could still keep Elites out for example without resorting to canon.

Personally, I don’t see how it’s a limiting factor at all. Elites are possible in 5, given the Anvil initiative, and every stupid gametype under the sun can be explained by a S-IV modding the simulator.
343 controls the canon. If they want to put something in, they will.

Elites being out of MP had nothing to do with making it canon. It had to do with programming and design decisions. All making MP canon was about was giving it a little story.

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> Elites being out of MP had nothing to do with making it canon. It had to do with programming and design decisions. All making MP canon was about was giving it a little story.

I don’t understand how people don’t realize this.

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> Personally, I don’t see how it’s a limiting factor at all. Elites are possible in 5, given the Anvil initiative, and every stupid gametype under the sun can be explained by a S-IV modding the simulator.
> 343 controls the canon. If they want to put something in, they will.

Exactly now we can have plasma pistols firing Spartan laser shots and have a legitimate reason for it now I mean come on that’s just -Yoinking!- awesome.

Why is it limited OP? playing as an elite is just stupid.

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> Why do people want to keep multiplayer limited so it can be canon?
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> So many things could have been in Halo 4 if the multiplayer was just multiplayer. For example, Elites were cut out so the Red and Blue team could fight.
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> Like seriously, at the end of the day its a video game. Its supposed to be fun. Why wouldn’t you want the most content possible and limit yourself to some story element that wasn’t even expanded on at all except for in the initial wargames cutscene.
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> Scrap this Infinity stuff and just give us an amazing multiplayer that isn’t limited to being canon.

This has been discussed 1000s of times over. Its confirmed that the elites actually have trained with the spartan iv before, so that point is pretty moot. And fun? There’s a mode in halo 4 where you run around as minuture Spartans with big guns

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> > 2533274855928398;5:
> > Elites being out of MP had nothing to do with making it canon. It had to do with programming and design decisions. All making MP canon was about was giving it a little story.
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> I don’t understand how people don’t realize this.

I don’t understand how people are not realizing that t-bagging is now cannon.

“After winning a war game match, Spartans enjoy thrusting and meleeing the defeated.”

Not having Elites in MP was literally the LEAST of Halo 4’s problems… Canon in MP isn’t a problem if gameplay is emphasized, first-and-foremost.

Halo 4 was built on a different formula than the other Halo’s, one that turned out to be bad for the game… THAT was its problem. Bad maps, bad pre-game lobby, bad design-decisions. There was PLENTY of content…

In the CANON you’re in a simulation. That means that ANYTHING and EVERYTHING can happen. It wasn’t the canon part that 343i didn’t include Elites, it was balance issues and time. 343i could implement Elites into the lore just as easily as making the multiplayer non-canon.

I wanted different thruster colors, like rainbow w/ heart thrusters, inclement weather thrusters, scarab beam thrusters, this should not mak any changes, just visual ones.

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> Why do people want to keep multiplayer limited so it can be canon?
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> So many things could have been in Halo 4 if the multiplayer was just multiplayer. For example, Elites were cut out so the Red and Blue team could fight.
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> Like seriously, at the end of the day its a video game. Its supposed to be fun. Why wouldn’t you want the most content possible and limit yourself to some story element that wasn’t even expanded on at all except for in the initial wargames cutscene.
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> Scrap this Infinity stuff and just give us an amazing multiplayer that isn’t limited to being canon.

This is a simulation, so

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> I wanted different thruster colors, like rainbow w/ heart thrusters, inclement weather thrusters, scarab beam thrusters, this should not mak any changes, just visual ones.

This could work, elites train with SIV’s on the anvil training thing ( halo online )

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> > Why do people want to keep multiplayer limited so it can be canon?
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> > So many things could have been in Halo 4 if the multiplayer was just multiplayer. For example, Elites were cut out so the Red and Blue team could fight.
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> > Like seriously, at the end of the day its a video game. Its supposed to be fun. Why wouldn’t you want the most content possible and limit yourself to some story element that wasn’t even expanded on at all except for in the initial wargames cutscene.
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> > Scrap this Infinity stuff and just give us an amazing multiplayer that isn’t limited to being canon.
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> This is a simulation, so
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> > I wanted different thruster colors, like rainbow w/ heart thrusters, inclement weather thrusters, scarab beam thrusters, this should not mak any changes, just visual ones.
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> This could work, elites train with SIV’s on the anvil training thing ( halo online )

sorry for spam, but also, 343 has tons of things we want canon, they just cnt/dnt implement like elites, itd be unbalanced, but elites could do any ability, ever gp, they come from a strong gravitational planet, so gp would be fine. Also h2 had elites with thrust/jet packs. So therefor = canon

no thanks

ok seriously I’m tired of this elite crap first of I hardly ever see an elite on multiplayer, secondly their customization was crap compared to the Spartan and they have a huge design flaw for multiplayer. Their heads are huge! In reach there was one elite that could be used in multiplayer that didn’t have an enormous head dress on so effectively one elite you could safely play as without drawbacks. If they gave me more incentive to play as an elite, like better customization then ok maybe I might use it sometimes. But as far as I’m concerned if you don’t even play as an elite and you complain about it not being in 4 and possibly 5 then you are probably just testing to find ways to nitpick at 343.

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> Why is it limited OP? playing as an elite is just stupid.

What…is wrong…with you…? Get out.

The reason that 343i “isn’t” putting Elites in MP is because of all the trouble they would have to go through. An Elite’s anatomy is a lot different than that of a human. It’s harder to get a headshot off an Elite so that ruins the “Swat” gametype. 343i has to spend time trying to make everything even between Elite players and Spartan players. Like Elites being slightly faster than Spartans and they can jump slightly higher but they have bigger hitboxes. They would also have to have an Elite counter-part to every Spartan Ability, unless they’re using the exact same abilities for both species. Some people have said that 343i should just make the Elites the exact same size as the Spartans…why? Elites being bigger than Spartans just makes them a whole lot scarier and you can strike fear into your enemies’ eyes. Bungie made the Sangheili bigger than humans so that’s how they should stay. I think that they should do what they did in Halo: Reach for Halo 5-have the Elites be able to jump and run slightly higher and faster than Spartans but give Elites bigger hitboxes to counter their speed/jump height. I would love 343 if they would put Elites in all/most MP gametypes but they at least have to put Elites in custom games. If Elites aren’t in custom games then “I’m never playing Halo ever again”…no of course I’m playing Halo again! But it would still be a bad move not to put them in because everyone (not including a few people) want them. It adds more of that “unique” quality to Halo and it’s great for Machinimas. It also promotes diversity among people in the Halo community and the fact that they get a choice in their species/character/avatar.

Because nothing you said is true. All Halo multiplayers are considered canon. Including Halo 2, 3 and Reach all of which have elites in them.