KD or KDA?

Halo 5 Guardians is the first Halo game that seems more geared towards KDA rather than just KD. Looking at some of my friends’ KD and KDA it doesn’t make sense how why KDA is used over KD. Some of there KDs aren’t terrible but when I look at their KDAs they’re much lower. My KD is 1.261 and KDA is around 3.5 which I assume isn’t very good but, what about KDA is better than KD?

All of my friends still only look at KD. Assists don’t affect the score, so in my opinion, they really don’t matter.

KDA gives credit for assists, so more participation based than KD. You can steal a kill with the last shot to up your KD, even if someone else put in the work to drop their shields. So, it gives more information on total value to team, versus a single person who may just be good at stealing kills, like you need to in FFA. Still haven’t figured out how the calculation works though.

KDA. The guy who goes 15-9 with 5 assists deserves better stats than the guy who goes 5-2 with no assists.

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> KDA. The guy who goes 15-9 with 5 assists deserves better stats than the guy who goes 5-2 with no assists.

I should clarify - the SPREAD is what I’m most concerned with. In that instance, 6 up is better than 3 up.

Where do I see my KDA ?

For those who are curious:

KDA = K + A/3 - D

For your career KDA, this value is normalized by your number of games played (a division)

My friends and I came up with the exact KDA system that is being used in Halo 5 back in Halo 2. We had 5 people but only 4 players could play at once so to determine a more fair system than just loser out we came up with the KDA to make the bottom 3 more of an exciting fight. KDA also encouraged fighting and not sitting back to camp.

K/D is still important but KDA is a better gauge of who is helping the team

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> For those who are curious:
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> KDA = K + A/3 - D
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> For your career KDA, this value is normalized by your number of games played (a division)

Thanks for this!

Both

KDA should be positive, while K/D should be above 1.0 if you want to be considered “decent”. The higher both are the better it looks at first glance, but what really matters is your KD and KDA versus your equal.

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> For those who are curious:
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> KDA = K + A/3 - D
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> For your career KDA, this value is normalized by your number of games played (a division)

Incorrect. Actually it is (K+(A/3)-D)/GamesPlayed.

It is a pretty worthless stat imo. I would rather have the historically established K/D and W/L.

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> All of my friends still only look at KD. Assists don’t affect the score, so in my opinion, they really don’t matter.

they do, not directly though. if I do 20 assists there is no guarantee that those guys would have died if I didn’t damage them and maybe they even would have more kills. I generally look up the kd though but im not against the KDA thing. they really want us to work as a team and KDA will help I guess.

Simply put, Assists are a valuable asset which more accurately represents how effective a player is. How many times have you said to your friend (or had them say to you) “Hey bro thanks for stealing my kill”…

KDA is ok, but not ideal to me? I get the purpose of it… to basically help ‘kill cleanup’ players to keep a positive KD/show their worth… but I just feel it doesn’t give the full picture. And with that said all you have to do to artificially boost it is camp and take pot shots at enemies and have others kill them.

Holy crap, this thread is old… still, I had some thoughts :slight_smile:

Overall, I’ve noticed that Halo 5 is more team-based than previous games in the series. In ranked, you have to win to move up — it doesn’t matter if you have five triple kills, a running riot and a 26-2 game. Your team has to win. The KDA stat probably isn’t as directly correlated to overall skill as the K/D stat, but it does encourage team shooting and probably makes a team a little less pissed off at the guy cleaning up kills. I know I don’t mind as much when a guy I’ve been targeting gets taken down by someone else, as long as my team gets the kill and comes out with the W.

For individual games, I feel that the total damage done is a better indicator than the KDA. I don’t think KDA is a bad thing, but KD feels to be much more of an accurate stat.

The way I look at it is K/D gives you a general idea on how good of an individual player you are, KDA gives you a general idea of how good a team player you are. I personally think KDA is more important to look at for arena.

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> Holy crap, this thread is old… still, I had some thoughts :slight_smile:

You would have been better off making a new thread rather than posting in one this old.