So in the latest the latest community update https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/campaign-countdown It sounds like Microsoft/343I will only be revealing campaign information about Halo Infinite on the 23rd. I could be wrong on this, maybe I’m interpreting it wrong but that’s kind of what it sounds like to me. If this is so, this is disappointing in my opinion. Still looking forward to hearing about the campaign but it’s the multiplayer that keeps me playing day after day.
Maybe the multiplayer will come in the form of a surprise beta? I don’t think that would be uncharacteristic of Microsoft.
I’m torn because I don’t want more info about the campaign revealed, but at the same time, I want to know if the campaign is going to go further in a direction I’m not happy about. I’d prefer if they presented mp during the presentation, and not reveal things about the story anymore.
There’s just so much more to Halo than campaign: arena, warzone, forge, customs. They had previously led me to believe that this would be the event that would finally reveal the game. Guess not.
I’m glad they told us now, otherwise this would be May event 2.0. Fingers crossed they “suprise” us with MP anyway.
I think we needa swallow a chill pill folks.
Sure enough they promised to show the Campaign specifically, but as typically happens at E3, someone will probaly announce right after ‘‘And we’ll be showing more Halo: Infinite all week, stay tuned for multiplayer’’
Let’s wait for the live stream event to happen, before we prepare our dissapointments.
Maybe Infinite has no multiplayer? Could that be possible?
Also, what Halo games had an MP showcase at E3? Wasn’t it always just campaign? Except maybe Halo 5?
343 should be more transparent with their community. There is 0 need to be this cryptic if you have confidence in your product. I don’t feel like they actually have anything to show us. This game is in development trouble, you’re blind if you can’t see that.
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> 343 should be more transparent with their community. There is 0 need to be this cryptic if you have confidence in your product. I don’t feel like they actually have anything to show us. This game is in development trouble, you’re blind if you can’t see that.
You’re forgetting how heavily tied to the Series X Infinite is and that they were already supposed to show the game off a month ago. This isn’t them lacking confidence like your claiming in every thread posted within the last month, they are showing off what they already had for E3 plus a potential surprise beta like they did with halo wars 2 or at the very least an announcement for the beta. They said that campaign was the focus, not the only thing being shown, wording matters.
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> > 343 should be more transparent with their community. There is 0 need to be this cryptic if you have confidence in your product. I don’t feel like they actually have anything to show us. This game is in development trouble, you’re blind if you can’t see that.
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> You’re forgetting how heavily tied to the Series X Infinite is and that they were already supposed to show the game off a month ago. This isn’t them lacking confidence like your claiming in every thread posted within the last month, they are showing off what they already had for E3 plus a potential surprise beta like they did with halo wars 2 or at the very least an announcement for the beta. They said that campaign was the focus, not the only thing being shown, wording matters.
You sir, are simply dreaming. I get that you want to have high hopes, but I’d say you should temper your expectations.
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> > > 343 should be more transparent with their community. There is 0 need to be this cryptic if you have confidence in your product. I don’t feel like they actually have anything to show us. This game is in development trouble, you’re blind if you can’t see that.
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> > You’re forgetting how heavily tied to the Series X Infinite is and that they were already supposed to show the game off a month ago. This isn’t them lacking confidence like your claiming in every thread posted within the last month, they are showing off what they already had for E3 plus a potential surprise beta like they did with halo wars 2 or at the very least an announcement for the beta. They said that campaign was the focus, not the only thing being shown, wording matters.
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> You sir, are simply dreaming. I get that you want to have high hopes, but I’d say you should temper your expectations.
That’s not high hopes, that’s being realistic and not pessimistic. The only time they’ve focused on multiplayer ever is with the announcement of Halo 2 anniversary’s remastered multiplayer and Halo 5’s warzone. It sounds like you’re just looking for excuses to be negative to 343 (which I can’t really blame you because halo 5 was terrible in everything imo but 4 was decent story-wise and Wars 2 was pretty fun). Being pessimistic about this is only going to make you hate the game even if it’s good, trust me, I do this all the time with games.
I see your point, but the negative outlook that myself & many others have in this community is not unwarranted. For us to go this long without seeing or knowing anything substantial about a game that has been in development for over 5 years…is frustrating & concerning.
I’ll say this. I want Halo to succeed. It is my favorite fictional universe & some of my fondest memories come from Halo. I want it to be great again. Sometimes passion for something is fueled by a righteous anger - and in this case…I’m looking at you Halo 4 &…5!
Perhaps you are right. Maybe they are really going to WOW us on the 23rd & their silence speaks to the great things they are withholding & not the lack of what they do not have.
We shall see.
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> I see your point, but the negative outlook that myself & many others have in this community is not unwarranted. For us to go this long without seeing or knowing anything substantial about a game that has been in development for over 5 years…is frustrating & concerning.
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> I’ll say this. I want Halo to succeed. It is my favorite fictional universe & some of my fondest memories come from Halo. I want it to be great again. Sometimes passion for something is fueled by a righteous anger - and in this case…I’m looking at you Halo 4 &…5!
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> Perhaps you are right. Maybe they are really going to WOW us on the 23rd & their silence speaks to the great things they are withholding & not the lack of what they do not have.
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> We shall see.
I’m not saying that you should hype yourself up or anything either, I just want people to be realistic. They’ve always shown off the campaigns and tend to follow up with a multiplayer trailer or beta announcement. The only way they would explicitly show off the multiplayer is if they have a mode in the works that they believe will revolutionize Halo’s multiplayer like they thought with warzone and maybe breakout if you count cg trailers.
I want to believe that they can do something right after Halo 5 so I’m leaving my mind open by having very little expectations for the game, most of which are for the art style which has already been answered by the 2019 trailer and the mega construx sets that were leaked and revealed introducing a hybrid of classic and modern styles.
honestly, what they show in campaign can dictate what we see in multiplayer. Whatever the gameplay is, players will know how multiplayer will look based on passed halos
To be honest I’m not really that bothered about it. I don’t expect multiplayer to deviate from the campaign much if at all. Outside of a niche scenario where campaign has sprint and multiplayer doesn’t(which I think is incredibly unlikely), I think campaign will be a more representative of the entire Infinite experience than a multiplayer demo would be.
Frankly there are only two things I want to know about Infinite multiplayer and they don’t even require gameplay for me to set my expectations.
1.) Sprint or No Sprint: I don’t much care for the other “advanced movement” abilities but the inclusion/exclusion of sprint is going to tell me most of what I need to know about 343’s priorities going into multiplayer.
2.) Starting weapons: If only because I don’t want to see a repeat of SMG/AR Starts from H2/H3/HR.
We are also way past the point where any beta or flighting is going to have a meaningful impact on the final product, so it doesn’t really matter when the multiplayer gets revealed because whether you have any complaints or not that is the multiplayer you are going to be stuck with on launch day.
Why the mild negativity? We’re getting Infinite news. Finally. And I’m glad it is campaign footage, because if one thing was a big let down in H5 it was the campaign.
Besides the campaign can provide plenty of hints of how multi will play. Core game play won’t be that much different between both modes most of the time. And on top of that it’s campaign will most likely be the thing that is changed most from what we know Halo campaigns to be. If it really is a big open world thing of course.
And then there is the part of the Banished. Let’s not forget we’re in a bubble here in which most of us know who they are and how they’re connected to the grand scheme of things. Outside of this bubble? I’ve seen plenty of people saying they don’t want to have to read books and wikis to understand the story again. It would make sense to give those more casual fans/players a proper and simple introduction to this part of the story. It might give some people the reassurance they’ll be able to understand this campaign…unlike H5’s.
I’m sure multi is all set and done at this moment. And why talk about it if you can also keep it under wraps for another month. Wait for the Sony answer to the Xbox event that’s planned for August and just say “Yeah that’s all nice and all that… Here’s an actual beta to play for what we offer this year”. Multi at this point is best to be played not talked about.
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> I’m torn because I don’t want more info about the campaign revealed, but at the same time, I want to know if the campaign is going to go further in a direction I’m not happy about. I’d prefer if they presented mp during the presentation, and not reveal things about the story anymore.
I feel the same.
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> honestly, what they show in campaign can dictate what we see in multiplayer. Whatever the gameplay is, players will know how multiplayer will look based on passed halos
I agree, to a point. One would think how campaign plays multiplayer could be similar but who’s to say. Maybe campaign has a lot of things that are way different than multiplayer we don’t know. For example, Maybe they have something like (And this is pure speaking hypothetically here) and campaign you have armor abilities. Well for people that don’t like armor abilities and see this they will immediately think the multiplayer will have armored abilities too and then immediately dismiss it, But what if armored abilities is only in campaign. Unless they specifically say so people are going to come to conclusions and we all know that isn’t necessarily a good thing. I would much rather Microsoft/343 just come out with it and show what gameplay is going to be like because that’s what everyone wants to know. Just be upfront about it. They don’t even have to show tons of multiplayer if they want to, just enough so people know the style and how it plays.
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> To be honest I’m not really that bothered about it. I don’t expect multiplayer to deviate from the campaign much if at all. Outside of a niche scenario where campaign has sprint and multiplayer doesn’t(which I think is incredibly unlikely), I think campaign will be a more representative of the entire Infinite experience than a multiplayer demo would be.
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> Frankly there are only two things I want to know about Infinite multiplayer and they don’t even require gameplay for me to set my expectations.
> 1.) Sprint or No Sprint: I don’t much care for the other “advanced movement” abilities but the inclusion/exclusion of sprint is going to tell me most of what I need to know about 343’s priorities going into multiplayer.
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> 2.) Starting weapons: If only because I don’t want to see a repeat of SMG/AR Starts from H2/H3/HR.
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> We are also way past the point where any beta or flighting is going to have a meaningful impact on the final product, so it doesn’t really matter when the multiplayer gets revealed because whether you have any complaints or not that is the multiplayer you are going to be stuck with on launch day.
I think most people feel the same way as you in the sense of that’s what they want to know what multiplayer is to. They want to know if Sprint or armor abilities or Spartan abilities or whatever the heck is going to be in. They don’t need to see a lot of gameplay they just want to know that. Frankly I’m kind of one of them.
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> Why the mild negativity? We’re getting Infinite news. Finally. And I’m glad it is campaign footage, because if one thing was a big let down in H5 it was the campaign.
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> Besides the campaign can provide plenty of hints of how multi will play. Core game play won’t be that much different between both modes most of the time. And on top of that it’s campaign will most likely be the thing that is changed most from what we know Halo campaigns to be. If it really is a big open world thing of course.
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> And then there is the part of the Banished. Let’s not forget we’re in a bubble here in which most of us know who they are and how they’re connected to the grand scheme of things. Outside of this bubble? I’ve seen plenty of people saying they don’t want to have to read books and wikis to understand the story again. It would make sense to give those more casual fans/players a proper and simple introduction to this part of the story. It might give some people the reassurance they’ll be able to understand this campaign…unlike H5’s.
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> I’m sure multi is all set and done at this moment. And why talk about it if you can also keep it under wraps for another month. Wait for the Sony answer to the Xbox event that’s planned for August and just say “Yeah that’s all nice and all that… Here’s an actual beta to play for what we offer this year”. Multi at this point is best to be played not talked about.
I’m not trying to be negative or anything It’s more of what’s the point of this? What purpose does it serve to hide your biggest component one could easily argue of your game to your fans. Because whatever they show in campaign people are immediately going to think that’s what multiplayer is like, But what if it’s not… It just kind of seems like why are they dragging this out… They don’t have to show a lot of multiplayer gameplay and I don’t want them to show a lot of campaign as I don’t want any spoilers or anything. I just want to know like so many other people the style of what multiplayer is going to be. I just want them to be upfront about it. I You know that them not showing multiplayer is just going to lead to mass wildfire stories on social media and whatnot… “why aren’t they showing multiplayer? What are they hiding?” And things like that. Rumors and speculation are going to run wild and frankly I don’t think that’s what Halo needs or Microsoft. That’s just my opinion obviously.
Overall I just don’t see any advantage to them not showing it right now. I don’t see how that gains you in advantage over Sony, I don’t see how this helps you in sales, I don’t see how this helps you in hype and I just see this as this fueling a lot of rumors and speculation, which like I said I don’t think Microsoft or Halo needs at all.
This said, I am looking forward to the campaign reveal, Don’t get me wrong, as I’m a campaign and multiplayer person (Also a big ODST firefight fan) so I will enjoy it but yeah… Just a little disappointing that I won’t see multiplayer. Not to mention majority of my friends only care about multiplayer so they will be really disappointed… and the whole thing just kind of makes me a little… suspicious, for lack of a better word, as to why they would choose to do this.
Time will tell
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> Maybe Infinite has no multiplayer? Could that be possible?
> Also, what Halo games had an MP showcase at E3? Wasn’t it always just campaign? Except maybe Halo 5?
No way on this one. 343 is trying hard not to piss off fans and not having MP would be one of the most sure ways to do that
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> Maybe Infinite has no multiplayer? Could that be possible?
> Also, what Halo games had an MP showcase at E3? Wasn’t it always just campaign? Except maybe Halo 5?
No. Releasing a AAA shooter in 2020 without a competitive multiplayer component isn’t something Microsoft would allow in a mainline Halo entry, and 343 Industries have spoken in the past about their confidence in Halo Infinite’s multiplayer. It’s been developed with multiplayer, and it’ll have multiplayer.
Wouldn’t panic too much (at least not yet). It was one sentence… right at the end of a community update post.
> Save the date! We’re excited to share what the team’s been working on – the first look at Halo Infinite’s Campaign is coming on July 23!
It confirms that we will be seeing campaign… but not necessarily that we won’t be seeing multiplayer or forge.
The focus of pretty much every Halo unveiling has been the campaign… and rightly so. It doesn’t mean that they won’t talk about anything else.
Hopefully Microsoft releases the shackles on the developers after this event (I guess we need a date and a price announcement for the hardware).
Then 343’s PR guys can start to earn their living…
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> Maybe Infinite has no multiplayer? Could that be possible?
> Also, what Halo games had an MP showcase at E3? Wasn’t it always just campaign? Except maybe Halo 5?
That seems incredibly unlikely. Unless it’s a Destiny type of game, multiplayer is the only thing that keeps players around after a few play throughs. But even then, destiny has a multiplayer, too. That’s going to be the bread and butter of the game. It’s been in development for like what, 6 years or more? And it’s likely meant to last at least another 3-5 years after release as Halo’s most current FPS title. It might not have what I’m hoping for but I can pretty much guarantee there will be some kind of competitive multiplayer. Even if it only launches with like team slayer, FFA and an objective mosh pit for teams and solos or something like that.