343 and the director of multi-player at Bungie said the bloom is broken. We all know it and they knew it was frustrating. That is why they fixed the bloom to 85% and gave us zero bloom for competitive games like MLG and hopefully the arena. CEA playlist is a given. If the Reach kids want to play the game the way it is let them. Just like the Reach kids need to quit making post on the TU threads. If you don’t want to play it then don’t put your 2 cents in. You will ruin it for others. Stop killing this community.
Because 85% makes pacing shots happen. 85% has been the only time I have ever found myself feeling like pacing was more effective than spamming.
0 bloom is more my thing though. Better aim and strafe wins. No spamming happens.
This thread has nothing to do with anybodies feelings. That is not the subject at hand.
One saying they do not like 85%/0 bloom because INSERT REASON HERE is fine.
What I can’t stand is people going into threads saying,
“OMG THIS SUCKS! IT’S A SPAMFEST! THIS IS FOR GIRLS! WHY DID YOU DO THIS!?”
That kind of behaviour is not necessary. That is what I am talking about.
that was the same sort of behavior for a year before 343i implemented the update.
how is pacing more effective then spamming in 85% bloom? it’s easier to aim, every shot you fire at max rate hits almost all the time if your aim is good, rarely does a bullet miss.
with bloom your reticule is expanding which makes aim assist more prominent resulting in it being easier to aim.
the result is 85% = easier to aim zero bloom and this is the reason why people prefer it over 0 bloom.
Zero Bloom fixed it, but people spam just as much at 85% as they do at 100% bloom.
> Zero Bloom fixed it, but people spam just as much at 85% as they do at 100% bloom.
I know these things already. I hate 85% bloom. 0 bloom is wayy batter an takes more skill. I am saying. Let the people who like it be. I can’t believe I even need to say this.
> I know these things already. I hate 85% bloom. 0 bloom is wayy batter an takes more skill. I am saying. Let the people who like it be. I can’t believe I even need to say this.
Fine, but after the TU gets out of Beta, devote an entire playlist hopper (preferably Arena) with NO bloom, NO Armor Abilties, and FIXED movement settings. Like Arena MLG, Arena BTB, etc.
There are only 2 competitive playlists right now: Arena and MLG. Arena is a joke since it has terrible maps like Boardwalk and Reflection in it, and Armor Abilities. MLG is the only true competitive playlist, while the “casual” people who actually think 85% Bloom solves something gets almost the entire Multiplayer Matchmaking section devoted to them. How is that fair?
Besides, the TU came out out of ire directed from the competitive community. The people who now claim 85% Bloom fixes everything sure as hell weren’t the ones asking for the TU in the first place.
I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
> I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
> > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
>
> No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
I hope your right.
> > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
>
> No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
halo 2 had strafe
halo reach doesn’t have strafe
the solution:
increase movement acceleration.
> > > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
> >
> > No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
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> halo 2 had strafe
> halo reach doesn’t have strafe
>
> the solution:
> increase movement acceleration.
We already know this.
> > > > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
> >
> > halo 2 had strafe
> > halo reach doesn’t have strafe
> >
> > the solution:
> > increase movement acceleration.
>
> We already know this.
sorry, i thought this is where the discussion was leading.
The only thing that fixes the fundamentally flawed bloom in Reach is removing it altogether.
While I respect other peoples opinions I have witnessed first-hand just how badly Reach’s terrible additions have decimated the fanbase.
Of the 70+ people I frequently played Halo 3 with 1 still plays Reach, the rest have moved onto Call of Duty Black Ops or turned to single player games to avoid the chore that is Reach.
Reach isn’t fun for the beginner or experienced player as bloom is irritating for beginners who just want their shots to go where they are aiming and experienced players quickly realise how random the bloom is.
I don’t think the shortcomings of Reach can be fully fixed with Halo: CEA which is why I won’t be pre-ordering it and if it only has 1-3 zero bloom playlists with the rest being 85% I won’t get it ever or renew my XBL account.
There isn’t a single playlist that can hold my interest in Reach as even in the TU playlist it’s 85% bloom 90% of the time and crouch spamming gets old.
I don’t want zero bloom in BTB, SWAT, or any other of the games I play, but I don’t want those who like the idea unnoticed.
Perhaps a separate playlist?
> I don’t want zero bloom in BTB, SWAT, or any other of the games I play, but I don’t want those who like the idea unnoticed.
>
> Perhaps a separate playlist?
That’s what they are going to do. Nobody cares to put these in swat or BTB. Those are for casual players. Everybody knows these changes will only apply to competitive playlist and the CEA playlist. Vanilla Reach will not be touched for the most part.
Thanks.
When i play 85% bloom i always pace. It’s barely any slower than spamming and will never let you down.
But ZB is the only legitimate option.
> > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
>
> No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
I don’t know dude, I went to halo 3, and the BR in that was nothing compared to the DMR long-range wise. It took like 8-9 shots to kill somebody long range with the BR, whereas the DMR would take 5-7 shots. I don’t like that, is that normal?
> > > I just think the biggest problem with zero bloom is that it’s waaay too over powered at long range, any of you agree? I can’t really think of anything to fix this and make the DMR not a mini sniper. Any suggestions?
> >
> > No. Halo 2’s BR and the 0 bloom DMR are pretty much one in the same. It’s encourages smart map movement.
>
> I don’t know dude, I went to halo 3, and the BR in that was nothing compared to the DMR long-range wise. It took like 8-9 shots to kill somebody long range with the BR, whereas the DMR would take 5-7 shots. I don’t like that, is that normal?
The halo 3 BR has spread. that’s why
The halo 2 after patch did not spread at all. that’s why hes making the comparison to the halo 2 BR