… Spire as a remake in Halo 5.
I mean it was one of my all time favorites in terms of BTB gameplay, now imagine it with a wider scaled area (and maybe a second tower), the falcon/hornet and Spartan abilities.
Seriously imagine a Spartan jumping off the tower and ground pounding, the destruction would be horrible, maybe it would even crush heavy armored vehicles(?)
This map is just awesome and has so much potential it would be the perfect BTB remake (if there’s going to be one) and all the different areas on it allow usage of all weapons and Spartan abilities…
Please share your thoughts and own ideas on this and feel free to make other suggestions for BTB remakes that would fit into Halo 5 and it’s new mechanics (maybe the mother of all BTB maps: Deathisland??)
I loved Spire! One of my favorite BTB maps I’ve ever played on. I don’t know about ground pounding from that high lol, I feel like that would kill the Spartan attempting the ground pound for going incredibly way too fast lol. Some (not sure of which ones/how many) Halos have a kill speed where if you fall at a certain speed you just instantly die, and I feel like that should apply in this situation.
I do miss Spire quite a bit. I’ve been thinking about booting up Reach and this may just be the shove I need.
Edit: it would be awesome if at some point in the match the spire could fall… Maybe of the bottom supports take enough damage or something? I’m foaming at the mouth lol.
It pretty much has to come back… Everything about that map can be replicated more efficiently in Halo 5. Stabilizers to stop your descent, ground pounding from up top, (like you said) thrusting towards different power positions during the descent. A 16v16 version of the map would need no changes, and if it wanted to be an even larger 32v32 map, they could just mirror Banshee creek on both sides.
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> I loved Spire! One of my favorite BTB maps I’ve ever played on. I don’t know about ground pounding from that high lol, I feel like that would kill the Spartan attempting the ground pound for going incredibly way too fast lol. Some (not sure of which ones/how many) Halos have a kill speed where if you fall at a certain speed you just instantly die, and I feel like that should apply in this situation.
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Yeah you may be right with the Spartan dying due to the fall damage, but maybe ground pound works like the air stomp in crisis 2 where you took no fall damage no matter from what height you started (don’t know how ground pound exactly works)
I don’t think the falling speed applied in Reach (I may be wrong here), because I never had problems with jumping off the tower and using the jetpack the last second before the impact…
As others have suggested too the map could easily be used for larger scaled battles and Spartan abilities would fit in perfectly so it’s my #1 choice for a possible btb remake.
If 343 doesn’t include it I will forge a remake, miss that map so much:\
I’d like to see a spire remake maybe even set after the battle of reach so the environment around it is glassed along with the UNSC Grafton as a part of the map, I think that spire opens up many opportunities to show off the new Spartan abilitys, only bad thing would be that everyone who used to sit on top of the spire waiting for the perfect time to jump down and assassinate you would now be able to flatten you into the ground with ground pound
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Too bad invasion is confirmed to not be in H5. It will be missed.
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> I’d like to see a spire remake maybe even set after the battle of reach so the environment around it is glassed along with the UNSC Grafton as a part of the map, I think that spire opens up many opportunities to show off the new Spartan abilitys, only bad thing would be that everyone who used to sit on top of the spire waiting for the perfect time to jump down and assassinate you would now be able to flatten you into the ground with ground pound
I’m still trying to figure out how they could balance ground pound, and I can’t put my finger on it. If they allow people to ground pound from that high, that’s all people are going to be doing the whole game lol. If they kill people with fall damage or speed damage, than there is going to be thousands of confused suicides of people jumping off the spire. And I know 343i doesn’t like players to be confused, they have mentioned that multiple times in regards to the [redacted] debate and in regards to firing while thrusting. My conclusion, sadly, is unless someone smarter than me sees a way to solve the ground pound question I doubt Spire will be in H5.
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i must be the only one who did this, in orion, i got as high as i could to gp off the map, but it wouldnt show the reticule then it cancelled out, but im sure spartan could survive the gp, they have titanium skeleton augs aswell with muscle augs to keep from breaking the seleton, i think itd work, also, itd take a while to gp the distance, and there are thrusters to dodge, also, you could shoot em before they land. It makes a huge risk/reward = fun and challenging, they could also use this as commadations. Get 10 gp kills from the top of the spire.
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I understand it could canonically fit into the game, but I don’t think it would be fun. There wouldn’t be many fights on the bottom of the spire because it would be a ground pound hot-zone lol. Cancelling out ground pound so it could only initiate part way down might make the system work better. I definitely did not try that on Orion, but I’m sure glad you did that was good thinking! Kudos!
That explosion of the towers idea from Battlefield may be an interesting aspect to add to a game, and yes, please add Spire that would be so badass. Jumping off the spire to pound a tank or boosting into a hijack.
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This exactly. And I would totally go for this commendation.
maybe it could unlock the air assault armor? You know situational comedy and stuff, just kidding😃