Just going to leave this here..

If you have 10 minutes please take the time to watch this, don’t bother leaving negative comments unless you actually watch! Thanks

Video Description: What happened to Halo and why. This is a comparison between the ex-Bungie team and 343 industries, using various interviews about story, art, design and engineering. 343 Industries rarely talks about development in those making-of videos, there’s no explanation or justification about anything in Halo 5 behind-the-scenes. The few you can find only shows contradictions with Bungie vidocs.

Big shout out to the creator CrowbCat. Thanks for bringing all this to light.

Halo was my childhood. Its kind of disheartening and bums me out to watch that actually but… Whether you like where we are now or not, the difference is night and day.

I’ve seen the video, and I just see something where someone tried to trash 343 so they found the quotes that would bash 343 and the ones that would praise Bungie. Even then, there’s no major difference IMO.

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> I’ve seen the video, and I just see something where someone tried to trash 343 so they found the quotes that would bash 343 and the ones that would praise Bungie.

Read the video description broseph.

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> Even then, there’s no major difference IMO.

How can you say that with a straight face?

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I don’t say it with a straight face.

I type it with a straight face lolMight as well give you guys a lazy link while I’m at it.

People have seen this already dude, it’s also pointless bringing it up, people prefer whom they prefer, 343 and bungie both do things differently. No point in trying to fuel a fire that doesn’t need ignited anyways.

I still feel like this guy looked for quotes where 343 don’t talk about development instead of him looking for quotes where they do. Plus, I think all the 343 quotes were taken from halo 5, and we all know halo 5 had a very troubled development.

Edit: Watch the Sprint.

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> People have seen this already dude, it’s also pointless bringing it up, people prefer whom they prefer, 343 and bungie both do things differently. No point in trying to fuel a fire that doesn’t need ignited anyways.

Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.

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> Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.

No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.

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> > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.

I guess it not a problem if we just bury it right? You 343 kiddos are all the same. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME, THEY CARE ABOUT $$$$

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> > > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> I guess it not a problem if we just bury it right? You 343 kiddos are all the same. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME, THEY CARE ABOUT $$$$

You are sorely mistaken. One of these days I’m going to make thread about all of the misinformation people have in their head, 343 only caring about money and not you is one of the points that will be on it.

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> > > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> I guess it not a problem if we just bury it right? You 343 kiddos are all the same. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME, THEY CARE ABOUT $$$$

You should learn a bit before pulling the stereotype B.S. You don’t help your case whatsoever making assumptions that I even support 343 and then follow through with the “343 kiddos”. I could care less who the dev is, what I care about is the game, and I can easily give you a nice long list of my issues with h5, h4, and mcc.

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> PREORDER NOW AND GET THE IRON GJALLARHORN

Oh, wait, you’ve missed it.

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> > > > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> > > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> > I guess it not a problem if we just bury it right? You 343 kiddos are all the same. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT YOU OR THE GAME, THEY CARE ABOUT $$$$
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> You are sorely mistaken. One of these days I’m going to make thread about all of the misinformation people have in their head, 343 only caring about money and not you is one of the points that will be on it.

Then do it. I am dying to know all the things 343 has done that hasn’t resulted in another mistake of equal proportions or was a huge failure.

EDIT: Other than forge.

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> > > > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> Then do it. I am dying to know all the things 343 has done that hasn’t resulted in another mistake of equal proportions or was a huge failure.
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There are very few like yourself left on these forums. Thanks for coming by to take a stand

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We’re talking about ex-Bungie here. Current Bungie is just as bad as your 343i overlords
Edit: almost as bad as

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I will admit they have gone overboard with the DLC but at least the micros are cosmetic only, and by the way anyone can get the Gjallarhorn, but people who preordered got a black one. But one thing that I have absolute certainty that bungie does better than 343 is their ability to improve over time, building off of previous mistakes(other than DLC price).

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“You are only allowed to use cosmetics in Arena!”

Personally, I prefer DLC over free updates that make excuse for including micro-transaction system. I agree with you on Bungie’s ability and 343’s inability.

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> > > > > > People have seen this already dude, it’s also pointless bringing it up, people prefer whom they prefer, 343 and bungie both do things differently. No point in trying to fuel a fire that doesn’t need ignited anyways.
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> > > > > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> > > > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> Then do it. I am dying to know all the things 343 has done that hasn’t resulted in another mistake of equal proportions or was a huge failure.
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I already have a few instances on my notes on my phone. Patience.

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> > > > > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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Did you start searching when I quoted you or something? Not to be offensive or anything but that’s the feeling I get.

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> > > > > > > Well more people need to see it. Then some more after that. You may be right most have already made their minds up but this should be seen regardless. Hopefully there are those out there though that will still see the lack of passion. A fire does need to be lit.
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> > > > > > No, these type of threads have been locked to avoid developer bashing for both bungie and 343. So again, there doesn’t need to be a fight getting started over something that’s irrelevant. Does bungie make halo? No, that’s all there is to it.
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> > > Then do it. I am dying to know all the things 343 has done that hasn’t resulted in another mistake of equal proportions or was a huge failure.
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> Did you start searching when I quoted you or something? Not to be offensive or anything but that’s the feeling I get.

No. I started writing them down after I said I was going to make it someday (I wrote the ones I remembered). I’ve always wanted to make a list of all the misinformation people have in their head, but this was just the first time I wrote it down.