Apologizing is not a sign of weakness. It’s showing you care enough about the harm done to the person affected by said harm.
If this problem did not affect you, it’s not for you to say whether it’s a big deal or not. The word wasn’t used to describe you in a derogatory manner for centuries.
It’s that type of arrogance that makes people angry.
I never said apologizing is a sign of weakness. What is weak is letting one single word have this much impact, when it should have none.
You might not want to speak on what I’ve experienced in my my life, brother. That is arrogance.
I’ll give you some advice, which you can choose to take or not. If you let words have this big of an impact on your mentality and life, those who use them in the derogatory manner will continue to use them. Show them that their words hold no power over you. Let them fade into meaninglessness. Rise above.
What happened was disrespectful and I’m not going to stay quiet about that.
It’s that simple. And if you were ever discriminated against or had your own moment, you wouldn’t want me to stay quiet. Like are you seriously going to let people walk over you like that?
Not asking you to stay quiet, in fact I said, “point out the problem”. Trust me, I’m all for standing up for oneself.
All I’m trying to say is to not jump the keyboard as we have as a community. Instead go about this calmly and rationally, not calling for someone’s job/livelihood over a simple, unfortunate mistake that was not done out of any disrespect.
Had this been done with malicious intent, I would say have at it. But, let’s not go assuming the worst immediately and hunt witches. That is how poor choices are made.
This ain’t a witch hunt. This is an understandable reaction.
Customers don’t know these people or their true intentions. All we know is what they tell us.
And need I remind you that stuff like this would be considered a “PR nightmare?” This ain’t no typical ‘Halo doompost.’ This is the appropriate reaction to an inappropriate situation.
I can’t agree to this. Calling for someone to lose their job and ability to support their family, over something that all evidence points to being a mistake, is not appropriate in my eyes.
I believe in innocent until proven guilty, and there is no proof that this was done intentionally, just pure, wild speculation. The person(s) responsible doesn’t need to be fired if this is their first blunder. They definitely need a talking to, to make sure something like this doesn’t happen again.
Why would I ask for someone to be fired if this was a big mistake?
I’m saying don’t treat this as a non-issue. This was pretty big. And it’s surprising how quickly this died down. This could’ve been some bad PR. extremely bad lmao.
You’ve made it clear you think this was done on purpose. I’m not disputing that, brother.
I’m disputing that there is no evidence this was done intentionally with malice.
You are using the guilty until proven innocent approach here. Not that this is a legal problem, but it’s still used in business to prove someone is guilty before firing them. Well it was until our culture took a nose dive.
I also never said treat it as a non-issue, just that it’s not as big of an issue as people are making it. It has moved on quickly because it is something that doesn’t need to be dwelled on. They made a mistake, fixed it, and moved on as they should.
Actually, this entire thread has devolved into non-constructive territory. I want to keep it open given the sensitive nature of the topic, but if there is not a decent discussion happening then it ought to be closed.
Just kind of a general statement to all in the thread. Be constructive and please stay on the topic of the Juneteenth issue. Waypoint really isn’t the place to discuss broad societal issues.
I agree with the original sentiment of this topic that the Bonobo name was an extreme oversight.
I believe that 343 made a mistake. A bad one, but a mistake nonetheless. 343 has been known to be rather inclusive and accepting of all people. Perhaps they have committed similar sins in the past, but I don’t know enough about their company history to say for sure. If the anything like this is repeated or we discover that their compa culture is miserable and bigoted, then it will be time for a change.
I don’t think someone NEEDS to be a certain race/gender/religion/orientation/ect. in order to understand someone’s situation. I don’t think anyone needs to feel bad about growing up poor/rich/skin color/ect., nor is okay to belittle someone based on those factors. Everyone grows up differently, and even “rich” people of whatever gender can be just as underpriveleged as the next human. Hating people who are “privileged” is still hate and exclusionary.
A post above talked about legislators attempting to make that person’s existence illegal, and that’s awful. I have met people who really think it’s right to hate someone because of race/gender/religion/orientation/ect, and that’s disgusting. One thing that’s nice is that other legislators are definitely working towards the opposite and don’t want any human to feel shamed or bad for being alive.
A lot of shade is being thrown around in this topic. But it seems like there are a lot of otherwise like minded people here.