Me personally I could use some challenge swaps. That would be a nice way to say sorry.
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Best way to be diverse and inclusive is to be neutral, on EVERYTHING and let the games speak for themselves without “celebrating” anything other than the game.
Diverse is inherently about the divisions of a thing, not the unity of said thing. By celebrating something that others do not celebrate you are automatically dividing your community. I will use the easiest example because it has been under attack for years, Christmas. So much so you people called it Holiday or Winter events. If you called if “Halo Christmas event” you would be alienating all who do not celebrate Christmas.
Same goes with all of the other things that developers try to push into their games. If you stay neutral you will never have to apologize for anything except for a bad game.
If a game is played by all sorts of people, and the developers actively stay quiet and let them play without saying something along the lines of “asians can’t play our game,” or make some sort of comment on social media, that company has already created diverse and inclusive gaming community.
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Nobody knew that until after the incident was resolved, Meta - that you can’t figure that out is even sadder.
BINGO. That’s why I don’t buy it being an accident. That it ONLY happened here is utterly bizarre to me as a coincidence.
Incorrect.
Your take is bad.
Ah, ah I see. I see. You’re part of that group that doesn’t want things “Pushed” on them.
Well, happy pride buckeroo. Some of us like being visible or being acknowledged.
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Hahaha.
“A dollar for the vending machine? Now that is very nice. Classy move, Oscar” -Kevin, The Office
I don’t think closing our eyes and covering our ears to most real world issues solves them.
That’s just indifference. It’s hushing the topic instead of tackling it.
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Do games HAVE to have banners for every little issue in the world?
Their narrative can tackle the issues just fine.
Is creating a massive oopsie by trying to insert a banner or symbol or color the way 343 did a much better way to tackle societies perceived problems?
Expecting a skin on Halo to speak to society’s problems and spark actual change does nothing, except make that one user feel good about themselves knowing while you are vapidly enjoying your escapism you can also claim to be causing a change by supporting the current thing via electronic fantasy.
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Ew, mint blitz.
Also, you call using twitter research? Please.
Why would they name an emblem pallette after a tool they use?
Sounds like -Yoink!- to me.
No, normally Im a very conservative person and stay far away from twitter, but I make an exception when it comes to this company.
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Because at this point, that’s one of the few things that can get them to actually change in any compacity it seems.
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You seem to be replying to me thinking I wrote the tweet I embedded despite it being signed by someone else. That doesn’t really surprise me considering the quality of your argument, but you can rest assured I’m not that guy.
Best way to be diverse and inclusive is to be neutral, on EVERYTHING and let the games speak for themselves without “celebrating” anything other than the game.
The best way to welcome the disenfranchised into the community is to actually welcome them. To celebrate the things that make a person unique and to let them know that not only are we trying to provide a safe, fun place but that they’re wanted here. Being ‘neutral’ doesn’t provide anything, but yet another place where people aren’t allowed to be themselves to protect a handful of miscreants who want to pretend they don’t exist so they don’t have to confront their own attitudes.
I’m sure you’d like to pretend that being black, bi, gay, ace, asian, female, or the like is somehow a political issue so you can use the nonsensical ‘keep politics out of games’ yarn (as if a fascist government at war with religious fanatics wasn’t political commentary to begin with), but these aren’t political issues. People exist and (aside from the few who choose to be terrible and attack others because of who they are) the things that make people unique deserve to be celebrated.
Diverse is inherently about the divisions of a thing, not the unity of said thing. By celebrating something that others do not celebrate you are automatically dividing your community.
I’m not sure I’d want to be around people who wouldn’t celebrate the ending of slavery in the U.S. or anywhere else.
I will use the easiest example because it has been under attack for years, Christmas. So much so you people called it Holiday or Winter events. If you called if “Halo Christmas event” you would be alienating all who do not celebrate Christmas.
I too get upset when people celebrate holidays that I don’t…oh wait, no I really don’t care. I wish them well and am done with it. Simply put there are other winter holidays besides christmas. Those existing or people choosing not to leave those people out isn’t attacking the holiday.
Same goes with all of the other things that developers try to push into their games. If you stay neutral you will never have to apologize for anything except for a bad game. If a game is played by all sorts of people, and the developers actively stay quiet and let them play without saying something along the lines of “asians can’t play our game,” or make some sort of comment on social media, that company has already created diverse and inclusive gaming community
All that leads too is, ‘I don’t specifically include people, I just make sure they know they don’t belong here.’
343 screwed up this time (and there is no excuse for that), but they’ve made it clear that they intend to welcome people into this community. That they intend to celebrate the things that make the player base unique and if I thought for a minute that wasn’t the case I sure as hell wouldn’t be willing to help them out.
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Thank god someone said this. I’m tired of hearing the same “keep politics out of gaming” narrative.
Just turn off the game if seeing someone being uplifted bothers you so much.
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Unless you’re a Reach fan I guess, considering they called all Reach fans moochers.
I’m sorry? The government in Halo is Fascist?
Like, I know Halsey kidnapped children but governments always have an evil side to them, do you think that’s what defines them as fascist is just making 1 incredibly immoral move? Or am I missing something?
I’ve never ever ever even heard this argument before so I’m actually curious what you mean, and I’m not trying to be condescending there’s just no other way I can word this.
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I heard it was a glitch, but I haven’t heard about it from anywhere else so I might be mistaken.
In regards to the game tho.
It’s amazing how fast 343i can implement a change/ fix when it could cause a massive problem to the image of the business eh?
Also I’m of the thought that, this code wording has never appeared in any other item in the game. Therefore I believe it was intentional by someone working there. Probably on month 17 of their 18 month contract.
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You do not need to be like this.
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Unless you’re a Reach fan I guess, considering they called all Reach fans moochers.
This ironically enough is why I have my doubts about the explanation on Bonobo. The last time a similar incident occurred was it had a name that was jabbing at fans and wasn’t a default error. Like I won’t 100% place all my chips in the it was a malicious attack pile but I don’t blindly believe in the error explanation either.
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I do not need people to assume anything about me, yet you and the Mod did after I use rational and critical thinking, nothing racist or offensive at all…but that is the state of the world we live in where thinking without emotion is not welcomed anymore.
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Dude, nobody said you were racist. We are calmly explaining why pretending these problems don’t exist cause harm to the people affected by said problem.
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Yeah, me too, I consider myself pretty forgiving but I’m almost certain 343 has really childish employees right now considering how they constantly gaslight.
Yup, yup yup.
Straight facts.
Who would trust 343 after all they’ve done anyways? They’re clearly not even a reliable source.
- They can’t do it for everything, so they choose the more important ones, where it is about an disenfrenchised community. That makes sence to me.
- If you want to argue that 343 focusses to much on US with the special nameplates, i would completely agree with you. But since you earlier post, i doubt that it’s about that and you just don’t like the LGBT-community and black-community to be celebrated.
- A fathersday or mothersday one would be nice, since those are international days. @Comedic_Hermit perhaps you could transfer that idea to the devs?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You realy telling me you didn’t realise that it was clearly inspired on Christmas???
343 made only something for ONE religious holiday: Christmas. And not just a nameplate, a whole event. And still it’s not enough for you, because you got triggered they said holiday and not Christmas?! Wow, that entitlement…
And don’t be triggered because someone said holiday and not Christmas, the most celebrated holiday in the world. That in an earlier post you said that Christmas is under attack is laughable and already shows your not living in reality. It is just christian extremist whining because they can’t handle that some people say ‘holiday’ and that they can’t force people to say ‘Christmas’. People have freedom of speech and can call it whatever they want. Luckely we don’t live in such a religious extremist society that you are forced to say or do stuff because of religious fanatics. That is the case for the US, but also here in Europe. Deal with it.
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Honestly folks I don’t think meat shield is worth arguing with. They clearly aren’t doing so in good faith.
You know how they want to put their head in the sand about these issues? We can do the same to them, I think. It’d be appropriate.
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It doesn’t work like that. Said boomers pass on their ideals.
It is sad that you feel that way.