So imagine a boss fight, where MC goes up against Jul, so Jul uses some forerunner tech to make himself all powerful and they square off on the top of that giant forerunner bird from the E3 trailer. Before that MC finds cortana in the forerunner network (I don’t know what to call it) and Jul tries to stop them from leaving and he’s in like forerunner armor and he has an orange energy sword and cortana overrides your suits systems to give you an overshield so you can survive a few sword hits. So Jul charges at you like a hunter swinging his sword and if you get hit you can survive like 2 to 3 hits because of the overshield. And you have to shoot hundreds of rounds into him to knock his shields down and there is tons of weapons on the ground around you incase you run out of ammo. And you can do mini assassinations by pressing the melee button behind him, and chief gets on him and smashes his armor to weaken the shields and then gets off and you have to keep shooting. Once his shields are down you have to do one final assassination where chief slices his armor apart with a knife and shoves a grenade into him, and then Jul yells NOOOOO!!! and then the grenade blows up. I think that would be so epic!! 
I think that the honor of killing Jul should ultimately go to the Arbiter.
Why do people want Jul to die? He knows what ONI is planning to do to the Sangheili, if anything his actions are justified
> I think that the honor of killing Jul should ultimately go to the Arbiter.
Jul should kill Thel, Thel wanting to ally with Humans puts the Sangheili at risk
I like jul aswell want to play as his faction in the next game
About half of what you described was the ending to Halo 4.
Also, the forerunner network you were thinking of was the Domain, which was destroyed when the rings were fired by the forerunners. But, the only chance of a fragment or clone of Cortana being alive is through the Janus Key.
> I think that the honor of killing Jul should ultimately go to the Arbiter.
Seconded. We could use a real duel between two notable Elites, both using Energy Swords (Jul perhaps having a modified or larger one, maybe even two?). The Heretic leader Sesa Refumee in Halo 2 was hardly a challenge and lacked the personal encounter that should be between a “duel of fates” style battle. However, we can’t really say if Thel Vadam will be in Halo 5, much less if he will encounter Jul Mdama. Besides, 343i may have bigger plans in store for them.
> Why do people want Jul to die? He knows what ONI is planning to do to the Sangheili, if anything his actions are justified
I don’t want either of them to die, honestly.
I love the Arbiter, the badass assassin that served the Prophets, but ultimately was a major figure in the great Schism and the alliance with the humans. He also just wants peace, as shown with the alliance with Hood and the talks with Brutes that are going on after Halo 4 (Halo Escalation comic).
Jul is great too. He knows what ONI is doing. He knows that they’re attempting to destroy his entire species. His wife and friend were killed around Sangheilios by ONI. I find it so incredible that he’s an atheist leading this extremely religious Storm Covenant. He also made an alliance with a living Forerunner, the Didact. I think Jul might have a revelation though, and specifically go after ONI since he’s with Halsey now. Also, he’s got control over Promethean Knights.
Both characters are awesome. If there ever was to be a boss fight, I’d have it between Arbiter and Jul. If it were me designing it, I’d have Jul get fairly injured, but somehow live. Though if someone had to die, I’d go with Jul.
If there must be a boss fight, it should be with a representative of the new Covies who is a key character throughout the Campaign. I’d rather not see Jul himself die yet, he’s a great asset, with his command over Knights and his eyes opened to truth.
He may have sent dozens of Covies to their deaths recklessly, but he was able to rally an army within 6 months and present an equal threat to Chief (the Prometheans did not overshadow the Covies in Halo 4) and to the Infinity itself.
One-time appearances are not new. It worked in Halo 2 with Tartarus, who was fleshed out pretty well near the end.
Although I’d LOVE to see an in-game, solid appearance of Jul. You cannot imagine my disappointment with Parg Vol, Gek, and Didact (really, non-solid and our ally? Is this an easter egg or some kind of joke?). They said Jul was going to be/is a cameo in the Didact’s awakening cutscene. 
Never once did he appear in the Campaign.
> If there must be a boss fight, it should be with a representative of the new Covies who is a key character throughout the Campaign. I’d rather not see Jul himself die yet, he’s a great asset, with his command over Knights and his eyes opened to truth.
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> He may have sent dozens of Covies to their deaths recklessly, but he was able to rally an army within 6 months and present an equal threat to Chief (the Prometheans did not overshadow the Covies in Halo 4) and to the Infinity itself.
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> One-time appearances are not new. It worked in Halo 2 with Tartarus, who was fleshed out pretty well near the end.
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> Although I’d LOVE to see an in-game, solid appearance of Jul. You cannot imagine my disappointment with Parg Vol, Gek, and Didact (really, non-solid and our ally? Is this an easter egg or some kind of joke?). They said Jul was going to be/is a cameo in the Didact’s awakening cutscene. Never once did he appear in the Campaign.
Jul did appear in the awakening cutscene. He was the Elite that said “Didact” (I think it was mentioned in one of the bulletins close to the start of the second half of Spops). However, I wish he was more prominent throughout campaign.
> If there must be a boss fight, it should be with a representative of the new Covies who is a key character throughout the Campaign. I’d rather not see Jul himself die yet, he’s a great asset, with his command over Knights and his eyes opened to truth.
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> He may have sent dozens of Covies to their deaths recklessly, but he was able to rally an army within 6 months and present an equal threat to Chief (the Prometheans did not overshadow the Covies in Halo 4) and to the Infinity itself.
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> One-time appearances are not new. It worked in Halo 2 with Tartarus, who was fleshed out pretty well near the end.
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> Although I’d LOVE to see an in-game, solid appearance of Jul. You cannot imagine my disappointment with Parg Vol, Gek, and Didact (really, non-solid and our ally? Is this an easter egg or some kind of joke?). They said Jul was going to be/is a cameo in the Didact’s awakening cutscene. Never once did he appear in the Campaign.
Jul appeared, 343 confirmed it, like it or not, I personally don’t think they needed to make a extra model when it’s not needed
> You cannot imagine my disappointment with Parg Vol, Gek, and Didact (really, non-solid and <mark>our ally</mark>? Is this an easter egg or some kind of joke?).
What in the world are you talking about?
343i never confirmed he appeared, they claimed he appeared.
They may have been saying it was in an earlier build, I don’t recall.
> > You cannot imagine my disappointment with Parg Vol, Gek, and Didact (really, non-solid and <mark>our ally</mark>? Is this an easter egg or some kind of joke?).
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> What in the world are you talking about?
> Why do people want Jul to die? He knows what ONI is planning to do to the Sangheili, if anything his actions are justified
He would have tried to find a way to kill all humans anyway. One more “justification” is irrelevant to him.
Actually if anything his actions seem to justify ONI’s.
> > Why do people want Jul to die? He knows what ONI is planning to do to the Sangheili, if anything his actions are justified
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> He would have tried to find a way to kill all humans anyway. One more “justification” is irrelevant to him.
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> Actually if anything his actions seem to justify ONI’s.
Well ONI are and always have been looking for a way to kill all the Elites, it could be considered genius or pure evil, let Hood play nice with the Sangheili and then poison their food supply and let every man, women and child die, I think Jul’s actions are fully justified, but they are much more than that of ONI
Plasma Pistol + Br. Done.
> > > Why do people want Jul to die? He knows what ONI is planning to do to the Sangheili, if anything his actions are justified
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> > He would have tried to find a way to kill all humans anyway. One more “justification” is irrelevant to him.
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> > Actually if anything his actions seem to justify ONI’s.
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> Well ONI are and always have been looking for a way to kill all the Elites, it could be considered genius or pure evil, let Hood play nice with the Sangheili and then poison their food supply and let every man, women and child die, I think Jul’s actions are fully justified, but they are much more than that of ONI
Both of them are justified. ONI believed that the Elites weren’t trustworthy and would try to attack humanity again, despite the Arbiter, so they plan to stab the Elites in the backs and poison them. Jul believed that humanity wasn’t trustworthy, on account of us being slimy double-crossing -Yoinks!-, so wants to wipe us out before we can try anything crafty, despite the Arbiter. Both sides are fighting each other because they are precisely correct about the other side. And they are precisely correct about the other side, because the other side is precisely correct about them. It’s a self-fulfilling conflict, rather interesting really.
343i has put a lot in store for us.
Well played, 343i.
> I think that the honor of killing Jul should ultimately go to the Arbiter.
I agree. However, we have to hope that the Arbiter makes his return. Then again, it would be great to have a BOSS BATTLE: Jul Mdama in SpOps, but he will retreat wounded from your attack.