Join in Progress more punishing than helpful

Games Other Halo
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I was just put in a match with my brother against a team of 8.

The game started a BRAND NEW MATCH with 2 v 8. I don’t know what systems are in place but this should not happen under ANY circumstance.

I’ve also joined games that ended before I could even chose my loadout.

What is the point? I thought there would be an option to start a fresh match instead.

2

Ruined Halo? Hyperbole much?

Regardless, I understand why they’re in the game, but yes - they need to be tweaked.

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Edit. Hah, you changed your title.

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It hasn’t completely ruined it, but people who quit should be penalized, the first quit you do you get a warning. Then if you quit again within a reasonable time frame, you cant join Matchmaking games for a certain amount of time… i think this idea would be perfect and would prevent many people from quitting

4

Nope.

I had a game where half my team left, and then more people joined and we won. Halo is not ruined.

5

2 vs 8? well, that would suck tremendously.

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> I was just put in a match with my brother against a team of 8.
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> The game started a BRAND NEW MATCH with 2 v 8. I don’t know what systems are in place but this should not happen under ANY circumstance.
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> I’ve also joined games that ended before I could even chose my loadout.
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> What is the point? There isn’t even an option to search for a fresh match like 343 said there would be.

While i agree in that i hate joining losing teams that are about to lose, its all very pointless, but you just complained about being 2v8, in previous Halo games, IF it went to 2v8, you were stuck at 2v8, whereas now people can actually join your team to help replenish your numbers giving you a better chance of bringing it back.

I was FAR more annoyed with people quitting early every single match just because they died a few times or didn’t get a weapon they wanted, at the very least the people who quit can be replaced.

Join in progress did not ruin Halo at all.

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> Nope.
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> I had a game where half my team left, and then more people joined and we won. Halo is not ruined.

Yeah iv had this happens as well. It seems like some players are just getting bad luck. I dont really care about win/loss because you get points in the end. What would be better is to have a setting that locks the match up when theres 3 min left in the match or the winning team is ten kills or less from winning

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I think they need to get rid of that. It’s unfair to join a game in progress in which you could be losing. I want a game to start new with a full lobby.

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> IF it went to 2v8, you were stuck at 2v8, whereas now people can actually join your team to help replenish your numbers giving you a better chance of bringing it back.

Perhaps you missed the point.

The game STARTED us 2 v 8; we didn’t end up this way. So the match is starting and my side is already destined to lose the initial rush until players fill in, and those 6 people will be on the losing team.

Surely you realize why this doesn’t make any sense? Why can’t I search for a fresh match?

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I miss being able to join a game and the rest of my team disconnect or leave and it leaves me and or me and a buddy on our own against a whole team and it shown true skill if you managed to win and this is one of the things that made me love halo and now its a terrible game :frowning:
I miss the old Halo gameplay D:

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> It hasn’t completely ruined it, but people who quit should be penalized, the first quit you do you get a warning. Then if you quit again within a reasonable time frame, you cant join Matchmaking games for a certain amount of time… i think this idea would be perfect and would prevent many people from quitting

yeah because that worked SOOOO good in reach right?
the only way that they can make people not want to quit is to lose xp

and even then people are still going to quit

13

I partially agree with OP: Just let us choose if we want that feature on or off!
I’d gladly wait a couple of minutes more in pregame and start a fresh game, where I am able to vote for the map.

14

JIP is terrible. I don’t want to get put in a 200-0 oddball game or a 3-0 CTF. yet it happens all the time.

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From what I’ve personally experienced in Halo 4 with Join in Progress:

  • I begin matches (i.e. go through the voting process completely) with 4v3, 3v2, 4v1, 5v2, 5v4, etc. teams.
  • The likelihood of the above occurring drastically increases when I enter a playlist with one fewer player in my party than is the maximum team size (i.e. I enter with 3 people total, we get matched up with 4 players, and a 4th player for our team does not join).
  • Join in Progress only causes black screens. I’ve played maybe 30% of my games without severe black screens, and, lucky me, I die 98% of the time.
  • Black screens don’t necessarily mean someone is coming or going, the game just likes to mess with you
  • I play entire games down one or two players
  • I play games where at least 6 people come and go in the 12 minute time frame. The final scoreboard literally showed me, my friend, my third friend, and 6 more players, all playing at one point for my team.
  • Parties are split to accommodate holes in parties (i.e. I have a party of 4 searching in Slayer, we find a game that is 3v1, my party is now split) This happened at least twice in two hours.
  • I join games where I’m already losing, and regardless of how many points the other team has over my team, I always lose the game. I lost a game 580-540, and we started the game down 50-0. We would have won had JiP not started the game early.

I understand some of you are having success playing with new players who enter halfway through, but it’s clear from the outcry on this forum that the majority of players are annoyed with joining games almost over, joining unfair games, starting games with unbalanced teams, and trying to play games with black screens every five minutes.

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They should tweak the setting that a match cannot start until the whole lobby is full.

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The last week I often played with two other friends and every second game we started 3v4 and didn’t get a 4th player in the game. I can’t understand how anyone can make a matchmaking system that is so unfair. In early Halo games you could win a 3v4 match, but with instant respawn and sprinting on little maps you cant defeat the rush of a numeral higher team.

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Uh…that’s exactly what I expected JiP to do. Join losing teams, and generally be crap. I’m not entirely sure how anyone with a brain thought it would ever be a good idea, but then I look at all the other things in H4…and I realize, ‘oh, they really are that dumb’.