John and Kelly relationship

Have you ever though about relationship between Kelly and John? I think there’s not only friendship between them huehuehue
I know Spartans can’t get kinda sexually excited, but they can fall in love with each other.
What do you guys think?

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> Have you ever though about relationship between Kelly and John? I think there’s not only friendship between them huehuehue
> I know Spartans can’t get kinda sexually excited, but they can fall in love with each other.
> What do you guys think?

They didn’t put sexual situations into the ESRB rating, so… chances are no spartan loving. Sorry bro.

We have a thread on this. We don’t need another.

No.

No And It’s Chief N Cortana :wink:

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> We have a thread on this. We don’t need another.

So? It hasn’t been updated in a few days so it’s not really visible, and they can make a topic about whatever they want as long as they’re not spamming.

For your benefit though, OP, this has been brought up here and here if you’d like to see what’s already been discussed.

Haha. No. This is Halo, not Mass Effect.

Suffice to say, the whole “Spartan-IIs have no -Yoink!--drive” thing is actually a common misconception. A reduced sexual drive was listed as a potential side effect of one of the augmentation procedures (the catalytic thyroid implant), but we don’t know how many Spartans were even effected by this and to what degrees. Furthermore -Yoink!--drive is not a critical factor in determining a person’s romantic orientation, and people can absolutely fall in love and desire companionship without one. We have also seen Spartan-IIs as adults express interest in having romantic relationships, with a few actually doing so successfully when given the opportunity (Maria-062 & Randall-037).

Now in regards to John-117 and Kelly-087, canonically we already know they are each other’s closest friend - and over the years there has absolutely been a foundation that’s been laid for their relationship to potentially evolve into a romance. No idea at this point in time if that will happen in ‘Halo 5’ or later, but if could definitely work and could bring and interesting level of development to them both as characters.

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> Suffice to say, the whole “Spartan-IIs have no -Yoink!--drive” thing is actually a common misconception. A reduced sexual drive was listed as a potential side effect of one of the augmentation procedures (the catalytic thyroid implant), but we don’t know how many Spartans were even effected by this and to what degrees. Furthermore -Yoink!--drive is not a critical factor in determining a person’s romantic orientation, and people can absolutely fall in love and desire companionship without one. We have also seen Spartan-IIs as adults express interest in having romantic relationships, with a few actually doing so successfully when given the opportunity (Maria-062 & Randall-037).
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> Now in regards to John-117 and Kelly-087, canonically we already know they are each other’s closest friend - and over the years there has absolutely been a foundation that’s been laid for their relationship to potentially evolve into a romance. No idea at this point in time if that will happen in ‘Halo 5’ or later, but if could definitely work and could bring and interesting level of development to them both as characters.

I think you took this ‘troll’ thread a bit too serious.

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> Haha. No. This is Halo, not Mass Effect.

So what’s your point? Halo can have characters with complex and compelling interpersonal relationships too.

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> I think you took this ‘troll’ thread a bit too serious.

How is this a troll thread? OP asked a question, and I’m giving them a legitimate answer based on the canon facts we have in regards to this subject.

Spartan-IIs don’t lend themselves well to romance arcs. The way they work narratively, especially Blue Team, would just cheapen them if one added such a thing.

Close emotional relationships? Definitely. These people have been family since they were six and it’d be rather shocking if they didn’t have some kind of close bond. Romantic relationships in a game like Halo would need to be handled with extreme care were they to ever happen in any form in-game and I can’t see any way they could write one between anyone in Blue Team without it feeling like bad fanfiction.

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> Spartan-IIs don’t lend themselves well to romance arcs. The way they work narratively, especially Blue Team, would just cheapen them if one added such a thing.
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> Close emotional relationships? Definitely. These people have been family since they were six and it’d be rather shocking if they didn’t have some kind of close bond. Romantic relationships in a game like Halo would need to be handled with extreme care were they to ever happen in any form in-game and I can’t see any way they could write one between anyone in Blue Team without it feeling like bad fanfiction.

While I agree it would definitely have to be done with care and subtlety, if done that way I also think it could avoid being tropey and distracting from the main storyline. We already know that part of the next series of games is going to be about exploring and developing the Chief’s humanity. So what would be the harm in showing John and Kelly taking more into consideration the nature of their close friendship and what they might want to do with their own lives as people, not just soldiers? That kind of evolution of a relationship could do very well for Blue Team’s personal narrative arc, if done right.

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> > Spartan-IIs don’t lend themselves well to romance arcs. The way they work narratively, especially Blue Team, would just cheapen them if one added such a thing.
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> > Close emotional relationships? Definitely. These people have been family since they were six and it’d be rather shocking if they didn’t have some kind of close bond. Romantic relationships in a game like Halo would need to be handled with extreme care were they to ever happen in any form in-game and I can’t see any way they could write one between anyone in Blue Team without it feeling like bad fanfiction.
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> While I agree it would definitely have to be done with care and subtlety, if done that way I also think it could avoid being tropey and distracting from the main storyline. We already know that part of the next series of games is going to be about exploring and developing the Chief’s humanity. So what would be the harm in showing John and Kelly taking more into consideration the nature of their close friendship and what they might want to do with their own lives as people, not just soldiers? That kind of evolution of a relationship could do very well for Blue Team’s personal narrative arc, if done right.

Who cares what they want to do as people? Seeing them be bad mofos is the whole point. As Aulakauss said, it would feel like bad fanfiction and there is enough of that garbage to shake a stick at.

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> Have you ever though about relationship between Kelly and John? I think there’s not only friendship between them huehuehue
> I know Spartans can’t get kinda sexually excited, but they can fall in love with each other.
> What do you guys think?

I think its a terrible idea to even entertain the idea for fear 343 might here about it and may consider doing it.

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> Have you ever though about relationship between Kelly and John? I think there’s not only friendship between them huehuehue
> I know Spartans can’t get kinda sexually excited, but they can fall in love with each other.
> What do you guys think?

Plenty have, here’s the thread. Now can we move on…

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> Who cares what they want to do as people? Seeing them be bad mofos is the whole point. As Aulakauss said, it would feel like bad fanfiction and there is enough of that garbage to shake a stick at.

Well considering the 343i has literally said themselves that the story going forward is going to explore the Chief and the other Spartans as people, I would say that them just being “bad mofos” is not the whole point at all. Also legitimate character development, evolving relationships, and subtle subplots that involve romantic elements =/= “garbage” for “bad fanfiction” - in fact it’s the exact opposite.

It would feel forced, and forcing romance into a story is the quickest way to get people to hate it. Halo isn’t the game of game that should be spending time on characters falling in love with each other, because there typically isn’t enough time for that stuff.

It works in mass Effect because that’s a completely different type of game. Mass Effect is different because it’s an open-ish world RPG that gives the player time to learn about other characters and decide if they want to develop a romantic relationship. In Mass Effect, you get to experience the “down time” between missions.

But Halo has linear stories where you’re constantly neck-deep in a struggle to keep the universe from blowing up (not literally of course). Shoehorning a romance into that would absolutely feel forced and would only serve to detract from the more important stuff going on. Now if Halo made an open world RPG? Yeah, go ahead and add romantic relationships between main characters. But keep that stuff out of the linear campaigns.

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> > 2533274941727894;1:
> > Have you ever though about relationship between Kelly and John? I think there’s not only friendship between them huehuehue
> > I know Spartans can’t get kinda sexually excited, but they can fall in love with each other.
> > What do you guys think?
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> They didn’t put sexual situations into the ESRB rating, so… chances are no spartan loving. Sorry bro.

You know that there’s a difference between romantic relationships and -Yoink!-, right?

Halo doesn’t need to throw romance into the game to fill a criteria. It workd well in ODST and wasn’t forced in our faces, but done by making us care about the characters, then including a little bit of romance. Aside from that, I’ve said ti time and time again, I’ve never seen John and Kelly in some romantic way, I see them more as brother and sister.