So here we go; In the Blue corner standing 6’11", we have the fastest Spartan Kelly. She has a whopping 201 operations—124 of which were full campaigns—as of August 2558. And in the Green corner, standing at 7’2", we have the Demon, Master Chief! Who has completed 209 military operations, including 139 full campaigns—as of August 2558.
Both are extremly capable warriors but who wins? The Eagle or The Rabbit?
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as with each Chief compared to any spartan basically its the Chief who i could root for.
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> as with each Chief compared to any spartan basically its the Chief who i could root for.
Haha fair enought, any reason why tho?
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> > as with each Chief compared to any spartan basically its the Chief who i could root for.
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> Haha fair enought, any reason why tho?
he is a survivor and even though he might not be the best sharpsooter or the fastest runner he is still near the top on so many fields it makes him to be over the others on overall skills.
also, as we all know he has luck.
still, the result would depend on the situation but in most cases Chief would win.
To be blunt: anyone who thinks the Chief would win in a fight against Kelly-087 is kidding themselves and/or doesn’t know very much about actual Halo canon in regards to these characters’ skillsets…
Kelly is the fastest human alive in the Halo Universe. Her speed also applies to her mental acuity as well, which meas she is able to think and solve problems quicker than the average person (which is standard for most S-IIs anyway). She’s known for being clever and thinking outside the box. Those factors alone give her a distinct advantage in any combat situation over the Chief.
Friendly reminder that Operations PALE SHADOW & HEMORRHAGE were things that happened as well.
Furthermore, the Chief has straight up acknowledged that Kelly would beat him in a fight if she actually tried. He notes that she has to purposfully slow herself down to even give her teammates a chance to fight back during sparring matches. And even goes so far to say that the thought of her using her full speed against an opponent scares him.
“No one could touch her if she didn’t allow it.”
…Kelly-087 would win. Case closed.
***Though I also think it is worth noting that, like a lot of “vs.” threads, the question presented here is kind of redundant due to the fact that these characters are best friends and would not logically get involved in a serious confrontation to begin with. XD
I think a more interesting fight would be Fred 104 vs John 117. Fred excels at close quarters combat. He also makes an excellent leader as seen in First Strike.
Besides already being biased towards Chief, I think John would win hands down.
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Los dos tienen puntos fuertes
Podría ser el jefe en cuanto a fuerza
Pero en cuanto agilidad y velocidad kelly
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> I think a more interesting fight would be Fred 104 vs John 117. Fred excels at close quarters combat. He also makes an excellent leader as seen in First Strike.
By rank he’s the leader of Blue. But he defers to Chief in the field.
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> To be blunt: anyone who thinks the Chief would win in a fight against Kelly-087 is kidding themselves and/or doesn’t know very much about actual Halo canon in regards to these characters’ skillsets…
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> Kelly is the fastest human alive in the Halo Universe. Her speed also applies to her mental acuity as well, which meas she is able to think and solve problems quicker than the average person (which is standard for most S-IIs anyway). She’s known for being clever and thinking outside the box. Those factors alone give her a distinct advantage in any combat situation over the Chief.
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> Friendly reminder that Operations PALE SHADOW & HEMORRHAGE were things that happened as well.
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> Furthermore, the Chief has straight up acknowledged that Kelly would beat him in a fight if she actually tried. He notes that she has to purposfully slow herself down to even give her teammates a chance to fight back during sparring matches. And even goes so far to say that the thought of her using her full speed against an opponent scares him.
> “No one could touch her if she didn’t allow it.”…Kelly-087 would win. Case closed.
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> ***Though I also think it is worth noting that, like a lot of “vs.” threads, the question presented here is kind of redundant due to the fact that these characters are best friends and would not logically get involved in a serious confrontation to begin with. XD
Friendly sparring is a thing though. Its noted the S-IIs enjoyed working out together. Thats probably the only reason.
Would go something like “Hey Kelly, Im bored, wanna spar?”
“Sure!”
(Cue a nice solid workout that leaves both Spartans warmed up and refreshed and happy that they did something useful with their time)
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> > > as with each Chief compared to any spartan basically its the Chief who i could root for.
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> > Haha fair enought, any reason why tho?
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> he is a survivor and even though he might not be the best sharpsooter or the fastest runner he is still near the top on so many fields it makes him to be over the others on overall skills.
> also, as we all know he has luck.
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> still, the result would depend on the situation but in most cases Chief would win.
Prehaps he is better overall to most Spartants, but Kelly has the second highest amount of completed operations and happends to be the fastest. I don’t think it will be that easy for Chief to win. Althought you raise a good point about the Luck, that will factor in somehow as it always does.
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> To be blunt: anyone who thinks the Chief would win in a fight against Kelly-087 is kidding themselves and/or doesn’t know very much about actual Halo canon in regards to these characters’ skillsets…
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> Kelly is the fastest human alive in the Halo Universe. Her speed also applies to her mental acuity as well, which meas she is able to think and solve problems quicker than the average person (which is standard for most S-IIs anyway). She’s known for being clever and thinking outside the box. Those factors alone give her a distinct advantage in any combat situation over the Chief.
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> Friendly reminder that Operations PALE SHADOW & HEMORRHAGE were things that happened as well.
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> Furthermore, the Chief has straight up acknowledged that Kelly would beat him in a fight if she actually tried. He notes that she has to purposfully slow herself down to even give her teammates a chance to fight back during sparring matches. And even goes so far to say that the thought of her using her full speed against an opponent scares him.
> “No one could touch her if she didn’t allow it.”…Kelly-087 would win. Case closed.
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> ***Though I also think it is worth noting that, like a lot of “vs.” threads, the question presented here is kind of redundant due to the fact that these characters are best friends and would not logically get involved in a serious confrontation to begin with. XD
You may be correct about Chief lossing in a h2h match in regards to reaction times, but I’m not sure how that would affect gun play considering Chief’s a pretty good shot and Kelly’s weapons are focused more on close range combat. Before you say that Chief will get chased down by her it should be noted that he has ran 65.2 mph in Mark armour before while Kelly in Gen-2 is currently stuck at a mear 40.39 mph. Chief should be able to run cirlces around her unless theirs a feat showing her going fater than 65.2 mph.
I agree lol, but assume in this case that Kelly saw John getting a little too close to Linda. 
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> I think a more interesting fight would be Fred 104 vs John 117. Fred excels at close quarters combat. He also makes an excellent leader as seen in First Strike.
I’ve seen that thread done loads before and it’s normally inconclusive. I’ve never seen Kelly vs John however… other than prehaps in the “Blue team vs Master Chief thread.”
The Chief was genetically planned by the precursors to be the ultimate human. No one is meant to beat him, and no one will.
> Prehaps he is better overall to most Spartants, but Kelly has the second highest amount of completed operations and happends to be the fastest. I don’t think it will be that easy for Chief to win. Althought you raise a good point about the Luck, that will factor in somehow as it always does.
I don’t see how “luck” can be factored into this at all. It’s not a quantifiable element. Though for good measure it should be noted that the majority of the Chief’s most “lucky” moments in canon only happened because someone else came in and saved his sorry behind (with H5 being the most recent and blatant example of this).
> You may be correct about Chief lossing in a h2h match in regards to reaction times, but I’m not sure how that would affect gun play considering Chief’s a pretty good shot and Kelly’s weapons are focused more on close range combat. Before you say that Chief will get chased down by her it should be noted that he has ran 65.2 mph in Mark armour before while Kelly in Gen-2 is currently stuck at a mear 40.39 mph. Chief should be able to run cirlces around her unless theirs a feat showing her going fater than 65.2 mph.
Kelly is just as proficient in any ranged weapon the Chief is, she simply has a tendancy to choose to carry a shotgun because she has the ability to get in close to her enemies in a way other Spartans simply cannot do thanks to her speed. And no, the Chief could not “run circles around her” - due to the fact that the instance you are referencing was a fluke. The Chief was only able to move that fast that one time because he had an AI overclocking his armor beyond its recommended limits and he still hurt himself in the process. So Kelly would still beat him in a straight-up fight.
> I don’t see how “luck” can be factored into this at all. It’s not a quantifiable element. Though for good measure it should be noted that the majority of the Chief’s most “lucky” moments in canon only happened because someone else came in and saved his sorry behind (with H5 being the most recent and blatant example of this).
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> The Chief was genetically planned by the precursors to be the ultimate human. No one is meant to beat him, and no one will.
Like this guys said(ortho wrongly) Chief was planned by the lIbrarion to be the true reclaimer and as such likely planned things around him to try and avoid his death. Still can factor in. I also recall that Kelly has been saved by Chief a few times as well. In that regard, they are equal… but CHief got dat luck. 
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> Kelly is just as proficient in any ranged weapon the Chief is, she simply has a tendancy to choose to carry a shotgun because she has the ability to get in close to her enemies in a way other Spartans simply cannot do thanks to her speed. And no, the Chief could not “run circles around her” - due to the fact that the instance you are referencing was a fluke. The Chief was only able to move that fast that one time because he had an AI overclocking his armor beyond its recommended limits and he still hurt himself in the process. So Kelly would still beat him in a straight-up fight.
Chief also ran at 45 mph in Mark 6, Nobal team has ran at 45 mph in reach while wearing mark 5 ect…
> Halo Evolutions: Palace Hotel.
> “The concrete beneath the Spartan had turned to dust and gravel as he launched forward. Barely a half second had passed and he was already 10 meters away…[Palmer] looked up from her boots and saw that his hands were no longer empty-his right hand now held a massive hard-chromed M6D, and a spare magazine was in his left. 8 thunderclaps rang out so fast that they bled together into a single long roar…With one hand at thirty meters and a dead run, two shots apiece, each a hit to the head or neck, what the holy hell are my men even aiming at back there!”
Thats about 20 m/s or 45 mph. 65.2 mph isn’t hard to believe being his fastest with or without Cortana who is stated only to help in awerness and reflexes. I haven’t seen any reference to increase strength and speed other than assumptions. This quote also whos him getting accurate shots on distant targets while moving.
Chief is still running cirlces in a gun fight. However in H2H Kelly seems to have alot faster reflexxes and reaction times, but is she strong enought to do enough damage before Chief does? You also said that she thinks faster, which will help.
I would go with Kelly but it would depend of the situation. Still her speed is a huge advantage in the combat. Chief has his “luck” meaning he’s smart at doing right decisions with little information but Kelly is also very fast thinker.
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> Like this guys said(ortho wrongly) Chief was planned by the lIbrarion to be the true reclaimer and as such likely planned things around him to try and avoid his death. Still can factor in. I also recall that Kelly has been saved by Chief a few times as well. In that regard, they are equal… but CHief got dat luck.
No. That is not true. The Librarian only left “blueprints” that would lead humanity to develop things like super-solders, power armor, etc. Not Chief specifically. Ergo that is not a factor here. The only time Kelly was “saved” by the Chief was in ‘First Strike’ where she used her speed to sacrifice herself to protect Dr. Halsey and Adm. Whitcomb from Hunter canon fire. An like I said before, “luck” is not a quantifiable factor here either nor does the Chief seem all that lucky in canon beyond having allies that are willing to get him out of a jam.
> Chief also ran at 45 mph in Mark 6, Nobal team has ran at 45 mph in reach while wearing mark 5 ect.
Where are you getting these figures from? Though really it doesn’t matter, because Kelly’s base speed is still the fastest of any human in the Haloverse so it stands to reason that she is also faster when given the same armor & AI assistance as the Chief.
> Thats about 20 m/s or 45 mph. 65.2 mph isn’t hard to believe being his fastest with or without Cortana who is stated only to help in awerness and reflexes. I haven’t seen any reference to increase strength and speed other than assumptions. This quote also whos him getting accurate shots on distant targets while moving.
I find it odd that would would bring up that story, because when the Chief makes his mad dash he brings up Kelly:
“Kelly had always been the fastest in their class - easily making her the fastest human being who had ever lived - but as he tore across the plaza, he was certain that his performance would have made even her take notice.”
So once once again, just because the Chief may have ran for his life and edged out Kelly’s speed for just an instant, he is still not faster than her and he knows it. And yes, the armor does enhance the Spartans’ already augmented speed and strength - that’s the whole reason they can wear it to begin with because the physical amplification the armor provides is too much for normal people to wear without incurring serious injury. This is also outlined in Dr. Haley’s journal under the name “PZ Material System”.
…So like I said the first time, all logic points to Kelly winning in a straight up fight. Furthermore, the Chief himself has acknowledged this. There’s nothing left to fuss about beyond tiny specifics that don’t really alter to overall question presented.
Kelly. She’d beat him out in a fight.
I never understand discussion like this. It’s the Master Chief we’re talking about vs a female Spartan. It’s not even a match. But most importantly it’s the Master Chief. Nobody beats him. He single handedly saved the galaxy like four times. The Arbiter is not even beating Chief in a fight 1v1 and Then Vadamee would absolutely destroy Kelly. How could the Master Chief be so underestimated still? Where’s the respect?