This is something fairly stupid and small, but has been bugging me for a while now. Will Spartan 117 be getting a new set of armor?
At the end of Halo 4, he is seen having his Gen 1 Mk. VI MJOLNIR armor removed, yet in every piece of art concerning Halo 5 and including John-117, we see a retention of the old suit. Is this simply to disguise what he’ll be using or is it exactly what he’ll be using?
I could see them spinning it as he stayed with the Mk VI but upgraded to a Gen 2 suit, however I hope this isn’t the case. I’m also against anything too flashy, but a Halo 2 style of change would be greatly welcomed.
I think his new armor is updated for having thruster pack etc…
You can see in some screen that is armor doesn’t have anymore the broken part of his chest since halo 2… So he have a new armor, with the same design than the old one.
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> I think his new armor is updated for having thruster pack etc…
> You can see in some screen that is armor doesn’t have anymore the broken part of his chest since halo 2… So he have a new armor, with the same design than the old one.
Most likely scenario. It’d make sense to give Master Chief a fresh and improved set of armor, and there’s apparently 8 months between the two games so there’s plenty of time for him to get the new suit.
They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
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> I think his new armor is updated for having thruster pack etc…
> You can see in some screen that is armor doesn’t have anymore the broken part of his chest since halo 2… So he have a new armor, with the same design than the old one.
Yeah, and you can see that his undersuit is no longer fully black, it’s now covered in green as well.
What ever happened to “we heard you like black undersuits”? I guess they heard us, then said “Nah, let’s keep this thing so that fans can keep complaining”. Honestly, it looks terrible… I sincerely hope that they do change it, but my hopes aren’t high.
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> I’m confused about the armor worn by Blue Team.
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> They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
Team Osirus probably has special new armor that works uniquely with their augmentations, rather than the special suits that blue team uses for their augmentations.
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> Chief’s armour was updated in Escalation by the UNSC when it got heavily damaged by the Didact.
^ THIS
It’s the same armor Cortana updated, they just replaced his cracked visor with a bright gold one again (Didact broke the orange-ish one in Escalation), they patched up the gash from his crash landing in Halo 3 (still not sure why Cortana left that there) and it could just be me, but it looks a bit bulkier now, and it also looks like he got a new undersuit with a tad bit of coloring to it.
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> > Chief’s armour was updated in Escalation by the UNSC when it got heavily damaged by the Didact.
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> It’s the same armor Cortana updated, they just replaced his cracked visor with a bright gold one again (Didact broke the orange-ish one in Escalation), they patched up the gash from his crash landing in Halo 3 (still not sure why Cortana left that there) and it could just be me, but it looks a bit bulkier now, and it also looks like he got a new undersuit with a tad bit of coloring to it.
Actually his armor is now a Gen 2 resembling the armor he had. In Escalations Issue 10 it was heavily damaged. And note in Halo 5 screenshots, the little differences like the different color titanium nano-composite layer.
The problem I have is they simply call it “Mark VI” instead of a variant like “Mark VI(B)” or something. They are treating it like the new design is a retcon, yet they have the old armor designs in Hunt The Truth. and Halo 2 Anniversary. It’s a half-hearted retcon in my opinion. The only reason they came up with the nanobots explanation is because fans complained to get an explanation. If they hadn’t, 343i would never have given an explanation and it would just be a retcon.
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> I’m confused about the armor worn by Blue Team.
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> They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
The way I see it the case seems to be that Gen 2 armor will increase your physical abilities to a certain extent but the augmentations underneath the armor don’t really do anything other than allow you to wear the armor. This probably explains why the IVs are fairly unimpressive augmentation wise, it’s all in the armor these days.
So out of armor the better augmentations that the IIs have give them an advantage over the IVs but once the armors on those better augs ain’t worth squat.
IMO this is the best way to handle the subject of Blue vs Osiris. I’d hate to think that Locke can only put up a fight if he’s given a technological advantage. Give both teams the same equipment, have them be physically equal, and make the fight about the more cunning not about who’s juiced more or has the best armor.
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> > I think his new armor is updated for having thruster pack etc…
> > You can see in some screen that is armor doesn’t have anymore the broken part of his chest since halo 2… So he have a new armor, with the same design than the old one.
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> Yeah, and you can see that his undersuit is no longer fully black, it’s now covered in green as well.
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> What ever happened to “we heard you like black undersuits”? I guess they heard us, then said “Nah, let’s keep this thing so that fans can keep complaining”. Honestly, it looks terrible… I sincerely hope that they do change it, but my hopes aren’t high.
Are you people really unable to give it a rest? The undersuits… Really? And you wonder why they never take you seriously.
FYI you forgot to add “in my opinion”.
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> I’m confused about the armor worn by Blue Team.
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> They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
In Halo: Cannon Fodder in the universe forums. Grim confirmed that Blue Team’s armour has been upgraded to Gen 2 while keeping the Mark VI look. If you notice, MC no longer has his armour damage on his chest. Therefore, if Frankie says that S-IVs are as strong as S-II because of Gen 2 armour, then blue team are super spartans
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> I’m confused about the armor worn by Blue Team.
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> They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
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> > I’m confused about the armor worn by Blue Team.
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> > They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> > Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
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I dont think Frankie said those exact words but he did say that an S-II is stronger than a S-IV because of their training and augmentations. But when both are in armour they are about equal because most S-IIs are in Gen-I and S-IVs are in Gen 2 armour. In other words, without Gen II, S-IVs are just ordinary ODSTs with a few augmentation required to use Gen-II armour. So Luger33 is correct in saying a S-II would murder a group of S-IVs when both are out of armour. That being said, Blue team is in Gen-II armour so the question is would a member of blue team in Gen 2 armour murder a group of S-IVs in Gen 2 armour? aka Chief would break Locke’s neck. LOL. But seriously chief would break his neck
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> > > Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
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> I dont think Frankie said those exact words but he did say that an S-II is stronger than a S-IV because of their training and augmentations. But when both are in armour they are about equal because most S-IIs are in Gen-I and S-IVs are in Gen 2 armour. In other words, without Gen II, S-IVs are just ordinary ODSTs with a few augmentation required to use Gen-II armour. So Luger33 is correct in saying a S-II would murder a group of S-IVs when both are out of armour. That being said, Blue team is in Gen-II armour so the question is would a member of blue team in Gen 2 armour murder a group of S-IVs in Gen 2 armour? aka Chief would break Locke’s neck. LOL. But seriously chief would break his neck
I doubt the gen 2 for blue team makes them stronger, im pretty sure their suits are gen 2 as they are improvements over the older armour and probably is a firmare upgrade for them to use the thruster and upgraded smartlink. I don’t think their armour makes them better than sIVs
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> > > > They are all clearly wearing MJOLNIR Mark VI (and variants thereof) but is this GEN 1 armor or GEN 2 armor? I have heard conflicting reports about whether or not Blue Team has upgraded. If they have, doesn’t that give them a huge advantage over Fireteam Osiris?
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> > > > Since the only thing that enabled Spartan-IV’s to be almost as good as Spartan-IIs was their advanced armor (Frank O’Connor said quite unequivocally yesterday that an S-II out of armor would murder a GROUP of unarmored S-IVs), haven’t the Spartan-IVs lost one of their main advantages over the IIs?
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> > I dont think Frankie said those exact words but he did say that an S-II is stronger than a S-IV because of their training and augmentations. But when both are in armour they are about equal because most S-IIs are in Gen-I and S-IVs are in Gen 2 armour. In other words, without Gen II, S-IVs are just ordinary ODSTs with a few augmentation required to use Gen-II armour. So Luger33 is correct in saying a S-II would murder a group of S-IVs when both are out of armour. That being said, Blue team is in Gen-II armour so the question is would a member of blue team in Gen 2 armour murder a group of S-IVs in Gen 2 armour? aka Chief would break Locke’s neck. LOL. But seriously chief would break his neck
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> I doubt the gen 2 for blue team makes them stronger, im pretty sure their suits are gen 2 as they are improvements over the older armour and probably is a firmare upgrade for them to use the thruster and upgraded smartlink. I don’t think their armour makes them better than sIVs
The Gen 2 is able to put Spartan-IVs physically on par with Spartan-IIs equipped with Gen 1 Mark VI, therefore a Spartan-II in Gen 2 armor should be superior to any Spartan-IV.
