John 1:17 Bible hints found in Halo along with lots of Stem field references

[The_Cool_Spoon]

@IIDergonII

I was talking specifically about the period before Jesus was democratically put on trial and murdered by majority vote due to the roman emperor killing a bunch of protestors to a proposed aqueduct project, an act for which the roman emperor did not want the information getting back to Rome so democratically sacrificed Jesus to “sate the masses”.

This is not at all what the multiple eye witnesses in the New Testament record. They record that the Jewish leaders were looking for any way to get rid of Him. They could not legally give anyone the death penalty so asked Rome to do it for them and due to pressure from a mob Pilot caved. This was not democracy at play but rather mob rule.

@IIDergonII

Grouping Pharisees and Sadducees is literally like saying Catholics and Protestants are the same thing because they are Christian.

Yes i would say grouping Protestants and Catholics together is fine when you say Christian that is what it would mean. So when i said Jews that includes all of them i.e. Pharisee and Sadducee. I am still confused as to why you are trying to differentiate them. What point was there to make using the different sects of Judaism?

@IIDergonII

He literally is the stereotypical male without any major or unpersuadable negative traits. They lobotomised a man to shoot good and be strong, but he isn’t very unpredictable (received order from whoever he thinks is most authoritative, purses order until completion).

Yes this is the whole point of Chief and the other Spartans. They were kidnapped children conscripted into the military. That is what makes them tragic figures. Their existence is vital to humanity’s survival but at what cost to the individual? You basically breed a human machine meant only for war. Thats the lore reason as to why Chief hardly has any emotions and that works perfectly with allowing the player to cast their own feelings onto him. Which again is why giving main characters a set religion would break the immersion for many players as they may not be apart of said religion.

@Moditor_026

Not sure even CE was spoon. Although its nebulous at best to define arena shooters or halo itself.

I think its more than fair to say Halo is typically an arena shooter. It just had a different weapon system other than the weapon wheel. But it still had equal spawns and map weapons which is a staple of the arena shooter.

[Moditor_026]

@The_Cool_Spoon

I think its more than fair to say Halo is typically an arena shooter. It just had a different weapon system other than the weapon wheel. But it still had equal spawns and map weapons which is a staple of the arena shooter.

It is certainly something of a contentious topic or at least was.
Back in the ce 2 days the quake message boards would go into hyper drive arguing it wasnt.

For most arena shooter fans the core elements are speed, resource management and swapping to the right weapon.

Halo was slower, health management was reduced and the 2 weapon system made it impossible to have a tool for all encounters.

Im not here to argue either way mind you.
Just pointing out that it is a debated topic.

Halo and quake 1-3s are my favourite game trilogies been in forums for both for a long time and this topic right here has unleashed some serious hell haha.

[The_Cool_Spoon]

@IIDergonII

Oh, so they didn’t have a chance to vote who they would crucify and all those stories about letting the equivalent of “Pilo the town rap artist” survive instead of the “King of the Jews” were just media reports?
Must have somehow missed that whole section of scripture where they introduced propaganda into the bible.

A mob going up and saying “Yes let this other criminal go because we will pay any price to get what we want” is not democracy. Its a mob just trying to get what they want.

@IIDergonII

I completely agree and a work of fiction should not be confused with religious text, but there are religious escque ceremonies, like bringing a strike team together to say a few words in Halo 5.

Okay but you were saying it should be much more overt earlier. I get that the world is based on ours just set in the future. The small references to religious stuff is fine and isn’t supposed to be some secret message nor was the OP suggesting that when you made a comment about it being like that.

@IIDergonII

was meant to shut down the notion that a bit of fiction has any kind of “secret messages” in them

The OP was just curious about more references not hidden meaning or anything.

I think we have gotten off topic but its been a good discussion.

[IIDergonII]

@The_Cool_Spoon

not democracy

Go study the root words of democracy and come back to me on that one Spoon.

@The_Cool_Spoon

you were saying it should be much more overt

No, I said it should be expected given that Halo is based on projections made in 2001, of which there were many religions around to draw influence from.

@The_Cool_Spoon

isn’t supposed to be some secret message

I literally said this exact thing, looking into a piece of fiction for “secrets” that apply to the real world is insanity.

@The_Cool_Spoon

references not hidden meaning

My opinion is the United Nations in 2001 accepted representatives of all member nations, regardless of what religion they identified with.

[Moditor_026]

@IIDergonII

@Moditor_026

Never said you were wrong

Arguing about anything implies a conflict, which implies a part is a fault for something, which you seem very good at doing.

@Moditor_026

readings of Christianity

Implying read.

@Moditor_026

No it would be like saying Catholics and Protestants are both Christian, which is entirely correct.
A Lutheran is a Christian just as a Sadducees is a jew or a Kharijite is a muslim.

Words, words, words, and a clear indication that you have problems placing events in sequential order like Pharisee and Sadducees or Catholic and Protestant, which is a sign of insanity.

Hahahahaha.
Words words words sums it up nicely. You always provide entertainment.

I had not even made an argument at the point in time or even engaged with you so no, no conflict. I Gave spoon context and slight subtle nudge back on topic but here we are.

Nothing I said remotely dealt with chronology haha.
-Yoink!- erectus and -Yoink!- habilis are both parts of the human genus.
A lion and cervil are cats.
These are not sequential order statements.

Man you’re one wild son of a gun.
Always zig when I think you’ll zag haha.

[IIDergonII]

@Moditor_026

Hahahahaha.
Words words words sums it up nicely. You always provide entertainment.

I had not even made an argument at the point in time or even engaged with you so no, no conflict. I Gave spoon context and slight subtle nudge back on topic but here we are.

Nothing I said remotely dealt with chronology haha.
-Yoink!- erectus and -Yoink!- habilis are both parts of the human genus.
A lion and cervil are cats.
These are not sequential order statements.

Man you’re one wild son of a gun.
Always zig when I think you’ll zag haha.

You are literally contesting my points, while claiming not to be contesting.

That’s got to be the new internet meta.

[Moditor_026]

@Moditor_026

-Yoink!- erectus and -Yoink!- habilis are both parts of the human genus.

LOL, sounds dirtier.

This is better than the thread about point of light by
Kelly -Yoink!-

[Causality_D]

Hey this idea is actually quite creative. Also I would like to correct my self Jesus doesn’t actually state that he will save all of us from judgement concerning are sins or the death that sin leads to. To be cut off from the Lord etc. We know clearly that everyone doesn’t get saved or deserve to live in god’s presence or whatever heaven truly is.