Absolutely no problem with join in progress if you learn how to set up spawns correctly.
Every JiP I get is this… (8sec vid)
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/BSTA257K
I know all spawning is bad but JiP is terrible!
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thats a unlucky spawn you got.
still its not the worse one i have see so far.
It’s not unlucky.
It’s a join in progress spawn of which they happen similar to this 90% of the time.
There’s clearly either
- A problem where the initial spawn is for whatever reason thinking you’re on the opposite team
- A problem where the game replaces you in the exact position of the bot you’re replacing even if they’re in a gunfight and because bots are
, they’re always in a gunfight.
I’m being naded before the game has even loaded my end.
thats suxs more if you spawn on the same place where the bot is and its also in a fight.
and we all know bots are crap and useless.
its maybe better if there chance that to a random place spawn more but then you can get also a chance that you end up with a bad spawn since there are a lot off exemples off bad respawns and also funny one’s.
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I love how they finally admitted the spawns are terrible but only said it was on one map and one game mode, get real. It’s in the whole freaking game.
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So turns out there’s a number 3.
I checked theatre from the game start.
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/6BLVC4ME
At 3:26, on the theatre clock, a teammate runs across field and although he’s clearly getting shot at by someone who doesn’t like using the Heatwave, he’s relatively safe.
At 3:33 I spawn in and a teammate immediately spawns next to me.
I immediately get shot at but I am not actually in the game, my game loads at 3:41 (8 seconds later) when the first nade explodes under me.
I cannot move until a further 1 or 2 seconds later when the second nade kills me.
So it seems the actual reason this is happening a lot of the time, when joining in play, is because you are visible 8 seconds before you have control and are fully loaded into the game.
This definitely needs addressing.
That indeed is the problem. I think you should spawn in a JIP-game just like how you are revived in Atrition. You are invulnerable untill 2 seconds after you actually load in (so you can also see where you are at) and then can move and be shot at. It’s not perfect (an enemy can still land a nade under you right before you get active), but way better then now, since you won’t lose health before you can actually do something.
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was it the JIP spawn again?
i wane know only if it was a JIP spwan again.
and if not then its more a unlucky spawn you see more in the game normale.
and if it was a JIP spawn then its not the bot or any one fault since there spawn close to the team mate that was alive but things like that happing when you spawn or JIP spawn on the wrong place and are death in few sec’s by the enemy since there use a long range weapon to hit the other team mate.
i have see really spawns more worse.
like there are standing with 3 close on 1 spot and somebody spawns in with the other 3 and the enemy gets a overkill since he spawns with his team mate’s that are close to each other.
or a betyal spawn more i have also see.
that a team mate is drive a ghost or warthog and you spawn close to him and are death by your own team mate that driving the warthog or ghost and gets a betray more for something like that.
I haven’t noticed spawns being different if I join a new game from if I was already in the game. A little dependent on game mode though…
Objective ( CTF, ect. ) type games were each side gets a base - You’ll generally spawn in said base.
Slayer matches - Spawn near teammates unless they wipe, then they spawn you on the other side of the map so you’re not right next to enemies.
and in a slayer match’s you are all over the map so the chance you end up in a unlucky spawn and get killt in few sec’s after spawn is also much higher then any game mode more.
and to make it also more worse slayer match’s + small maps give also more and more chance about unlucky spawns since the map is more to small like we can see.
One of the benefits in TF2 does spawns, where you spawn in a specific room that cannot be access by the enemy and you have time to actually do something before engaging the enemy. Unfortunately, they can still camp the spawn room doors on maps, worse with sticky traps, and people still complain even with all the perks of spawn rooms have for them at their disposal.
Doesn’t sadly work nearly for games were you don’t spawn in with everything you need though either like Halo. Would need more then that for this game.
thats some you also get if you do it in halo that you make more a new big problem that there going to start camping if there is a safe place to spawn in.
i think its more for the better to accept it and deal with it that you get this type unlucky spawns sometime’s and if you are really unlucky you can get it in more match also.
and on small maps the risk’s to get a unlucky spawn are much higher then a larger map.
and if you hate it more the unlucky spawns on small maps then you need to move to a other playlist like BTB where you play more on the large maps and have more luck with a good spawn.
The thing with JiP vs normal respawn is the likelihood of a bad spawn is MUCH more frequent. And being shot at BEFORE you’re in the game.
Yes, me too. Especially behemoth, this is one that went FOR me on Recharge
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YPPJJV95
I definitely see an increase, I wrote 90% but honestly I can only remember not being shot at once and that was in bazaar on the shotty spawn.
Again, I think it’s the 8 seconds of standing there before loaded in. Maybe it was the same in previous titles but got away with it more because wasn’t lit up like a Christmas tree like now.
Well I definitely don’t want spawn rooms but may be some way to tweak the loading the player in before the player can control
I originally thought it was the spawn location but now I realise it’s the 8sec delay
what maybe helps only for JIP spawns is that you spawn in a special room before enter the match map and that you need to wait in that room for 3 sec’s only after you game has load in the match and then after the 3 sec’s you spawn on the map more.
that will fix the JIP spawns with the bot problem more.
but then you still need to deal and accept it that there is still a chance you end up in a unlucky spawn on the map.
its still not that worse its only unlucky but still not the worse one’s i have see on youtube so far.