how can the two work together?
if I join a game with less than two minutes to go and still go positive, win or lose why should my csr go down?
I spent 2-3 hours going between + 10 and +20 and my skill goes up by 2.
2 JIP games later and its back down again.
why do I even bother?
how is my csr meant to improve if the system that supports it contradicts it?
I only came back to halo 4 to get to 50, but tbh I think Ill be fed up by 40.
please 343 scrap JIP or make it a toggle on/off option.
Well, the other way is that you’re in a ranked game, and half your team quits. How is that a fair test of ones skill when its clearly unfair.
JIP is the lesser of two evils, I feel is a fair assertion. Sometimes it may not work optimally, but then again the older way didn’t always work optimally either.
> Well, the other way is that you’re in a ranked game, and half your team quits. How is that a fair test of ones skill when its clearly unfair.
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> JIP is the lesser of two evils, I feel is a fair assertion. Sometimes it may not work optimally, but then again the older way didn’t always work optimally either.
no one is forcing you to stay in a lop sided match.
which is why I think it should be a toggle on/off option.
if youre happy to join a game midway through, by all means go ahead.
the majority of the people I personally have spoken to arent happy with it though.
but thats not the point Im making.
what Im saying is why should my CSR be negatively impacted by a game I barely participated in, even though my kdr was better than the majority of the people in the game.
the same thing just happened again.
got my csr up by 2 points, 2 JIP games and its back down, then I top the leadrboard with +15 and nothing.
also how can people do better than me with lesser kd.
for example if someone on my team has the same amount of kills, less assists and more deaths they can score higher for getting reload this or similar medals?
how do these medals have anything to do with skill rating?
and why should it affect my CSR?
seems flawed to me.
> Well, the other way is that you’re in a ranked game, and half your team quits. How is that a fair test of ones skill when its clearly unfair.
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> JIP is the lesser of two evils, I feel is a fair assertion. Sometimes it may not work optimally, but then again the older way didn’t always work optimally either.
H3 and Reach… Going 2v4 was fun. Because if your two worst players left but your enemies two worst players are still in… You may be outnumbered but you are not out gunned. In reach I had plenty of videos going 2v4 and winning.
The last time JiP ruined my day was when 2 of my team quit… But that’s cool… Me and my last reminding teammate took a pretty nice lead in the beginning 2v4… Then JiP was all “hey, this looks a bit unfair, lemme fix this” JiP threw in 2 really poor players. They gave free kill after free kill. We lost by just a couple kills. JiP has not once been helpful to myself.
Do you hate Join in Progress?
Does it cause to start matches with a handicap of lossing or just not knowing what the hell is going on?
Does Joining in games completely -Yoink!- UP your Rank?
Well there is a fix for that Don’t worry.
In fact, there are two fixes…
1.) Stop playing the game
-While this may be the undesirable option for those who actually like the game, it is a option people are selecting more and more these days and you should seriously consider it.
2.) The JIP Deny Steps
-I do not know who originally found this option but I remember hearing it a while back and Since CSR is live i feel a lot of people should know.
Step 1 - Identifying JIP
- When you are searching you have to watch and make sure you are aware of when you are about to join a game late. If you are about to join a game late, instead of seeing player boxes that say searching with an outline of a spartan, you see boxes of visible player Spartans and gamer tag names and emblems, just like you would if you had just gotten out of a game. If you see this, screem -Yoink!- OFF 343 and then proceed to step 2
Step 2- Deny that -Yoink!- JIP
- Now calmly [redacted by a moderator]
csr only made me hate jip even more. csr goes up after 10 games later doing great. join one game, too little time to get much kills to make a difference, lose AND csr drops. seriously, i’m getting punished because of your awful jip feature?!
Thank you for your feedback. We are looking into the best ways to make limited join windows work with CSR on a per-playlists basis, and will be providing updates as soon as possible. Thank you!
> Thank you for your feedback. We are looking into the best ways to make limited join windows work with CSR on a per-playlists basis, and will be providing updates as soon as possible. Thank you!
thanks for the response.
I hope that there is a solution to this sooner rather than later as it can be extremely frustrating to put in a lot of effort only to see it all go down the drain due to external factors.
again I played 4 games at the top of the leaderboard to go up 1 point.
2 JIP games and its back down again.
honestly this is getting seriously frustrating and I dont know how much longer I can keep this up.
I just searched 8 times and each time it tried to match me with a join in progress game.
so I dashboarded every time only to be put in another JIP game.
when I finally do find a game it is against a full party even though I am searching solo.
I think Im done until this issue is addressed.
I hadnt played halo for a month prior to this weekend, and thought CSR may have bought back some competitive players, from what I have seen so far it hasnt.
then to have JIP impede my ability to improve my CSR when I clearly am doing well in the vast majority of my games makes this experience extremely unenjoyable.
I will watch to see if this issue is fixed and may try again if it is, but for now I think I am too frustrated with the issue to continue.
Literally what they did is update their website abit. CSR update has done nothing to the actual game. Nothing has changed for the actual game I bought. Let me rephrase that, they didnt update the game, they updated their website. CSR is literally NOWHERE to be found in Halo 4. Only on their website. It’s a complete joke. The situation at the moment is players switching between PC and console to get an update of their ranks. We need to be able to view ranks just like SR ranks in-game Halo 4.
But besides that the CSR doesn’t make any sense. Your stats are affected by join in progress game as far as I have read. So if you get matched into a game where it’s 250 to 0 the chances of gaining map control or winning is very low. Yet all your match stats are counted towards your profile. The desire to get higher ranks is thus completely denied.
It’s hard to accept a Rank System like this for people who enjoy true competitiveness and want to see the Ranks of their fellow players. They need to be able to compare ranks when they are in the lobby in-game. Not when they go on their PC’s.
hopefully the comments in the latest bulletin mean we will get a resolution to the JIP / CSR problem soon.
fingers crossed.