…from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
I really enjoy that map actually, can be a bit annoying spawning near the lava in the far corner but apart from that I don’t seem to run into many problems
I’d only scrap it from TA (if it’s in there anyways). There’s really no need to remove variety from an already lacking game even if most maps play like -Yoink- but that’s just me. I’d rather play more maps rather than be restricted to only 3-4 maps.
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> …from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
no, molten is an amazing map, every map in halo 5 promotes “corner camping” have you never played plaza or fathom?
and 2, wtf is why all this automatic hate? it is a GUN, that is used in close to mid range, just because it sucked in previous games, doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant to be used.
this halo precision weapons only garbage needs to die.
you sound like 7 year old entitled cry babies honestly.
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> > …from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
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> no, molten is an amazing map, every map in halo 5 promotes “corner camping” have you never played plaza or fathom?
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> and 2, wtf is why all this automatic hate? it is a GUN, that is used in close to mid range, just because it sucked in previous games, doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant to be used.
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> this halo precision weapons only garbage needs to die.
> you sound like 7 year old entitled cry babies honestly.
Yeah, I agree. If you aren’t using all of the resources available to you just because you think you are on some sport of pedestal above everyone else (maybe you are, idk) that is just silly. I’m never going to be mad at someone for grabbing a SMG and toasting me with it… that is my fault if it happens.
As for Molten… I don’t see any sort of balance problem, therefore I cannot recommend it be removed from a playlist.
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> > …from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
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> no, molten is an amazing map, every map in halo 5 promotes “corner camping” have you never played plaza or fathom?
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> and 2, wtf is why all this automatic hate? it is a GUN, that is used in close to mid range, just because it sucked in previous games, doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant to be used.
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> this halo precision weapons only garbage needs to die.
> you sound like 7 year old entitled cry babies honestly.
Want to know a little secret? I don’t think precision weapons only is a good thing. I like how halo 5 forces you to switch to the appropriate weapon for the range you’re engaging at. However, this map plays very poorly and forces the overuse of autos, in my opinion. It promotes boring gameplay where people very often tend to camp corners, shoot and melee. Not only that, but the spawns on that map for FFA are terrible. As far as playing plaza and fathom, there is some corner camping but both have a nice balance of precision weapons to autos.
Anyways, I’m not trying to force the map out of rotation, I want to gauge what people on waypoint think. Clearly you don’t share my opinion, and that’s fine. In my experience most higher skilled players dislike the map as well, I just wanted to get other’s opinions here on waypoint. I didn’t realize it was immature to express an opinion on a forum…
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> > > …from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
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> > no, molten is an amazing map, every map in halo 5 promotes “corner camping” have you never played plaza or fathom?
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> > and 2, wtf is why all this automatic hate? it is a GUN, that is used in close to mid range, just because it sucked in previous games, doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant to be used.
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> > this halo precision weapons only garbage needs to die.
> > you sound like 7 year old entitled cry babies honestly.
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> Want to know a little secret? I don’t think precision weapons only is a good thing. I like how halo 5 forces you to switch to the appropriate weapon for the range you’re engaging at. However, this map plays very poorly and forces the overuse of autos, in my opinion. It promotes boring gameplay where people very often tend to camp corners, shoot and melee. Not only that, but the spawns on that map for FFA are terrible. As far as playing plaza and fathom, there is some corner camping but both have a nice balance of precision weapons to autos.
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> Anyways, I’m not trying to force the map out of rotation, I want to gauge what people on waypoint think. Clearly you don’t share my opinion, and that’s fine. In my experience most higher skilled players dislike the map as well, I just wanted to get other’s opinions here on waypoint. I didn’t realize it was immature to express an opinion on a forum…
there is no such thing as overuse, in a shooting game, if it works, then it works? you aren’t going to take a sniper into a cqc map are you? just like you wouldn’t take an smg on to a known sniper map, again, plaza and fathom are very corner campy, as well as rig (which molten is a the original, with rig being the remix) overgrowth is basically corner/corridor campy as well , riptide is EXTREMELY campy, but the map in question doesn’t “force anything” in fact, i would say that map has the best flow aside from Eden. but i prefer square maps over circular maps anyway.
and from my memory, every time i play molten , the “corner camping” and auto fest you speak of, are fairly non existance, it is a grenade fest for sure tho, but there are br’s and carbines that do amazing on that map.
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> > > > …from slayer and FFA. The map promotes corner camping and massive amounts of auto + melee combinations. No one I have seen enjoys it and many including myself dodge it most of the time. The map is tolerable for doubles but that’s it. Anyone else agree with me?
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> > > no, molten is an amazing map, every map in halo 5 promotes “corner camping” have you never played plaza or fathom?
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> > > and 2, wtf is why all this automatic hate? it is a GUN, that is used in close to mid range, just because it sucked in previous games, doesn’t mean it wasn’t meant to be used.
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> > > this halo precision weapons only garbage needs to die.
> > > you sound like 7 year old entitled cry babies honestly.
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> > Want to know a little secret? I don’t think precision weapons only is a good thing. I like how halo 5 forces you to switch to the appropriate weapon for the range you’re engaging at. However, this map plays very poorly and forces the overuse of autos, in my opinion. It promotes boring gameplay where people very often tend to camp corners, shoot and melee. Not only that, but the spawns on that map for FFA are terrible. As far as playing plaza and fathom, there is some corner camping but both have a nice balance of precision weapons to autos.
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> > Anyways, I’m not trying to force the map out of rotation, I want to gauge what people on waypoint think. Clearly you don’t share my opinion, and that’s fine. In my experience most higher skilled players dislike the map as well, I just wanted to get other’s opinions here on waypoint. I didn’t realize it was immature to express an opinion on a forum…
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> there is no such thing as overuse, in a shooting game, if it works, then it works? you aren’t going to take a sniper into a cqc map are you? just like you wouldn’t take an smg on to a known sniper map, again, plaza and fathom are very corner campy, as well as rig (which molten is a the original, with rig being the remix) overgrowth is basically corner/corridor campy as well , riptide is EXTREMELY campy, but the map in question doesn’t “force anything” in fact, i would say that map has the best flow aside from Eden. but i prefer square maps over circular maps anyway.
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> and from my memory, every time i play molten , the “corner camping” and auto fest you speak of, are fairly non existance, it is a grenade fest for sure tho, but there are br’s and carbines that do amazing on that map.
I would argue that overuse of autos means poor map design but maybe that’s just me. If it works it works, sure, but that doesn’t mean it’s a fun experience. How do you think that molten is the original? Did they announce this or something? Why would the release the rig before molten if molten was the original… I agree about riptide, it forces camping but the spawns on it are better than molten’s. In addition, the version of slayer played on it in the team arena playlist is much improved and really forces any team camping blue room to push out and go for caster and camo.
Edit: and yes, I believe overuse does exist in shooters, especially arena shooters. Otherwise, why would they ever patch weapons.
Probably my fave map
I enjoy the map.
I enjoy the overall look of the map, but I do have issues with the spawn set-up on it during SWAT matches. Of course, I am not really a fan of the spawn system in general…
Yea no I disagree. Molten is probably one of the better H5 maps.
Good sightlines, plenty of skill jumps and a good weapon sandbox.
The map is pretty, don’t get me wrong. But is absolutely awful when it comes to gameplay. It’s incredible that this map has been in development before the launch of Halo 5. And it still sucks this bad. It really should only be a 2v2 map. But it really does need to be removed from arena.
AmI the only one who never played on Molten since it never pops up on Arena?
I don’t think that one or two developer misplaced design make a map completely bad or unplayable,is the player that doesn’t know how to move around correctly in the map.
I frequently perform bad in Pegasus, I don’t like the map for the same reason but I don’t think is a bad map, however I had some sick plays in this same map.
You can have a bad match even in a “good” map.
PS: I still don’t know what was wrong with Torque.
No.
Time for you to eat a KitKat.
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> The map is pretty, don’t get me wrong. But is absolutely awful when it comes to gameplay. It’s incredible that this map has been in development before the launch of Halo 5. And it still sucks this bad. It really should only be a 2v2 map. But it really does need to be removed from arena. Not that 343 is ever going to listen to us.
Well it sounds like they are listening, most of these guys like it. I’ll just keep dodging.
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> No.
> Time for you to eat a KitKat.
Lol don’t you mean a snickers? Do I need to dehungerize? And why isn’t there a core on molten I can destroy?
Yeah. Every single time I have played on that map, I have lost due to campers and non-stop auto encounters.
Weird because I never got to play it on matchmaking… 
Only problem I have with it is spawning in Bunker when there’s a guy camping literally right around the corner… other than that, good map. Feels like Lockout in some aspects.