It's official. The community is full of bigots.

If I see another post saying “Halo fans are just afraid of change” (read that in a 10 year old voice) then I’m going to stop returning to these forums. It seems the majority on these forums are bigots or try to generalize all the people who don’t like the game under the title “purists” as if it’s some bad word.

HALO FANS AREN’T AFRAID OF CHANGE DARNIT. We are afraid of bad change, which this game has TONS of. If they were positive changes, I’d enjoy them. The change that happens isn’t welcome to Halo.

People need to stop focusing on the positives. We need to give feedback which is actually productive to the game’s health instead of telling each other “Oh it’s a great game and if you don’t think so you’re just a purist or a change hater or other synonyms here because I’m a generalizing idiot”… Seriously, by focusing on the positives you’re not doing anything to help this game. You’re just trying to boost people’s moral for this game which doesn’t do anything. You will all plague this launch and don’t say I didn’t tell you so.

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If you want my feedback on the game, click my spoiler.

- -The blast radius on grenades is ridiculous. Halo reach ridiculous.- -Too many annoying sounds at death/respawn and hitmarker sounds, etc.- -The Prophets bane has a lunge distance near the melee distance. It’s so short. If anyone wants to avoid being killed by prophets all you need to do is thrust away and shoot and you’ll always win. This weapon is awful if you’re facing people who know how to counter it. Power weapons shouldn’t be useless.- -Make the sniper shoot near the rate of Halo 2. It shoots once every 2 seconds, this doesn’t fit the gameplay speed at all. It’s way too slow.- -Make the pistol have a lower rate of fire. You can spam it up close for seriously fast kill times.- -Remove flinch entirely. Whoever implemented this horrid feature should be fired immediately. I thought we learned not to add this already through Halo 4.- -AR damage and SMG damage needs a 25% reduction and remove the smart scope for the Assault Rifle. It needs to remain a short range weapon, giving it a scope adds about 20+ meters to its range, making it a mid range weapon which is absurd. SMG would be fine with a scope assuming it would have to be picked up and there’s no gametypes with SMG start (such as Team Duals)- -Ground pound honestly just needs to be completely removed. This is really a useless feature to begin with, it’s barely used and rarely helpful. Never should you spawn with a 1 hit kill ability either. It doesn’t fit this game plain and simple. Ground pound often gets in the way of trying to Ghandi hop also and gets me stuck while doing so, offering up a warm body as a free kill sometimes.- -Let us back out of searching lobbies- -Give us the option to vote for what map we want to play. I thought you’d be more intelligent and realize pregame lobbies are still desired by the players.- -Let us see post game carnage in detail, with break down, rival, medals we earned, etc. It’s too simplistic.- -Let us see post game carnage while we wait for a match to be searched for. Nothing else to do during that time.- -The ranking system is completely stupid. If I get a 4.0 KDR and my team loses I’m penalized because the competitive ranking system judges me based on how many wins I get versus how well I do as a player. If I play solo I’ll literally never have a chance at getting a higher rank than Onyx because I’ll lose 40% of the time because of anchor team mates. This rank system doesn’t reflect how you do as a player, it reflects how well you can pubstomp with your friends or how well you can get -Yoinked!- over by poor team mates.- -You didn’t even make new armor or models. You just used Halo 4’s armor. That’s gotta be the laziest thing I’ve ever seen. No innovation. Copy/pasting armor, have you no shame 343.- -Don’t know why I have to press X to see the roster. There’s nothing on the right side of the screen to begin with I don’t know why it’s not just permanently embedded on the right side like Halo: Reach had, probably the best user interface out of all the Halos.- -There’s no system which prevents me, a solo player, from being paired against a team of players.- -I’ve been paired up against a team of 2 pros and 2 semi pros, I’m Gold III. We lost by 2 kills, I pulled a 5.0 KDR and my team went mad negative. My skill rank dropped. Does this not exemplify how the rank system is broken?- -Make weapon switching so much faster. At least twice as fast. I find myself with Prophets bain being nearly useless because when I need to use it I switch to it but can’t use it for a good 2 seconds until it’s completely withdrawn. It’s supposed to be a weapon you switch to, so why is it so bad at being switched to? Surely 343 doesn’t expect me to always have this weapon equipped ready to swing with it. This slow weapon switch also ruins my habit of Y-Y’ing the sniper scope instead of zooming out because it takes too long for the sniper to return.- -Display my SR rank somewhere. No one actually knows I’m SR-10 (including myself) unless I actually go to my service record. It seems you stress competitive skill rank far too much, which you shouldn’t do. (especially because competitive skill rank is totally a broken concept)- -Thruster pack needs a longer cooldown by at least 3 more seconds.- -Give an option to turn off controller vibrations since there’s no system way to do so.- -Take out the frat brothers high-five chest bump stuff. It’s not funny and not cool in any way. I’m not supposed to feel like a 5 year old when I play this game but I do.- -Make kill cams optional.- -Never have ground pound on the same button as crouch, especially because it’s on so many button layouts.

Bump - Thread got lost in the flood.

So people wanting some arena shooter in there arena shooter is a bad thing. Understand new people dont know about arena shooters. Hence the bad change.

Lol bigots? You are trying too hard. The ppl who praise the game need to continue to do so because if all you hear from a community is “This is CoD not halo , change it back or I’ll hang myself” then the Devs may think they need to turn it back to halo 2.5. Which is a bad idea.

Feed back is needed I agree. What isn’t needed is ppl trying to skewer the game to how they play or have played halo. No one forces ppl to sprint or ads and I would like to ask the “true pro leet” halo player if he is being dominated by these newer play styles. It just seems like most of the ppl complaining have yet come up with a real valid point of why halo should keep the archaic style of not being able to run or even pull a weapon closer to get better accuracy.

Halo’s popularity is not shrinking because of these additions, as a matter of fact, I feel like its popularity dwindle because there wasn’t inclusions in gameplay that are considered natural progressive fps staples. Most halo fans moved on to what they feel are better mp experiences because of this.

Edit* I actually agree with your feed back btw

You know this is a beta, right? Chill out. All of your concerns about the ranking/matchmaking system, as well as the armour/models and postgame reports etc will obviously be remedied in the final game. Did you notice all of the textures are downsampled, too? Kinda surprised you didn’t mention it, given that this would be a much more serious issue than anything else if we’re assuming this is a final version. This is testing dude. Oh and kill cam is optional, just press X to get out of it.
That being said, I agree with most of your other points, especially the -Yoink- frat bro stuff. That needs to go. And yea there is a lot of weapon balance that needs to be done.

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hahaha no one cared it shows that the people who hate the game are just a vocal minority

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> Feed back is needed I agree. What isn’t needed is ppl trying to skewer the game to how they play or have played halo. No one forces ppl to sprint or ads and I would like to ask the “true pro leet” halo player if he is being dominated by these newer play styles. It just seems like most of the ppl complaining have yet come up with a real valid point of why halo should keep the archaic style of not being able to run or even pull a weapon closer to get better accuracy.

“You’re not forced to use ___”.

You are if you want to win, or don’t want to spend forever walking across an enlarged map. To not utilize what the game gives you would be putting yourself at a disadvantage. So yes, obviously people are forced to use the mechanics the game adds. Just because someone utilizes something though doesn’t mean they approve of it being in the game.

“Have yet to come up with a real valid point.”

Please. There’s tons of in-depth explanations as to why people hate specific mechanics all over the forums. You either simply disagree with them (which fine, what the -Yoink- ever), or you are too close minded to even bother attempting to comprehend what they are saying.

> Halo’s popularity is not shrinking because of these additions, as a matter of fact, I feel like its popularity dwindle because there wasn’t inclusions in gameplay that are considered natural progressive fps staples. Most halo fans moved on to what they feel are better mp experiences because of this.

Halo 4 had all the bells and whistles. It had sprint with very few restrictions, perks and weapon choice, weapon skins, killstreaks… The only things it didn’t have is ADS and adding attachments to your gun. You’re basically saying that if it had those two things as well, it would’ve been a popular game.

I find that hard to believe.

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> If I see another post saying “Halo fans are just afraid of change” (read that in a 10 year old voice) then I’m going to stop returning to these forums. It seems the majority on these forums are bigots or try to generalize all the people who don’t like the game under the title “purists” as if it’s some bad word.
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> HALO FANS AREN’T AFRAID OF CHANGE DARNIT. We are afraid of bad change, which this game has TONS of. If they were positive changes, I’d enjoy them. The change that happens isn’t welcome to Halo.
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> People need to stop focusing on the positives. We need to give feedback which is actually productive to the game’s health instead of telling each other “Oh it’s a great game and if you don’t think so you’re just a purist or a change hater or other synonyms here because I’m a generalizing idiot”… Seriously by focusing on the positives you’re not doing anything to help this game. You’re just trying to boost people’s moral for this game which doesn’t do anything. You will all plague this launch and don’t say I didn’t tell you so.
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> If you want my feedback on the game, click my spoiler.
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> - -The blast radius on grenades is ridiculous. Halo reach ridiculous.
> - -Too many annoying sounds at death/respawn and hitmarker sounds, etc.
> - -The Prophets bane has a lunge distance near the melee distance. It’s so short. If anyone wants to avoid being killed by prophets all you need to do is thrust away and shoot and you’ll always win. This weapon is awful if you’re facing people who know how to counter it. Power weapons shouldn’t be useless.
> - -Make the sniper shoot near the rate of Halo 2. It shoots once every 2 seconds, this doesn’t fit the gameplay speed at all. It’s way too slow.
> - -Make the pistol have a lower rate of fire. You can spam it up close for seriously fast kill times.
> - -Remove flinch entirely. Whoever implemented this horrid feature should be fired immediately. I thought we learned not to add this already through Halo 4.
> - -AR damage and SMG damage needs a 25% reduction and remove the smart scope for the Assault Rifle. It needs to remain a short range weapon, giving it a scope adds about 20+ meters to its range, making it a mid range weapon which is absurd. SMG would be fine with a scope assuming it would have to be picked up and there’s no gametypes with SMG start (such as Team Duals)
> - -Ground pound honestly just needs to be completely removed. This is really a useless feature to begin with, it’s barely used and rarely helpful. Never should you spawn with a 1 hit kill ability either. It doesn’t fit this game plain and simple. Ground pound often gets in the way of trying to Ghandi hop also and gets me stuck while doing so, offering up a warm body as a free kill sometimes.
> - -Let us back out of searching lobbies
> - -Give us the option to vote for what map we want to play. I thought you’d be more intelligent and realize pregame lobbies are still desired by the players.
> - -Let us see post game carnage in detail, with break down, rival, medals we earned, etc. It’s too simplistic.
> - -Let us see post game carnage while we wait for a match to be searched for. Nothing else to do during that time.
> - -The ranking system is completely stupid. If I get a 4.0 KDR and my team loses I’m penalized because the competitive ranking system judges me based on how many wins I get versus how well I do as a player. If I play solo I’ll literally never have a chance at getting a higher rank than Onyx because I’ll lose 40% of the time because of anchor team mates. This rank system doesn’t reflect how you do as a player, it reflects how well you can pubstomp with your friends or how well you can get -Yoinked!- over by poor team mates.
> - -You didn’t even make new armor or models. You just used Halo 4’s armor. That’s gotta be the laziest thing I’ve ever seen. No innovation. Copy/pasting armor, have you no shame 343.
> - -Don’t know why I have to press X to see the roster. There’s nothing on the right side of the screen to begin with I don’t know why it’s not just permanently embedded on the right side like Halo: Reach had, probably the best user interface out of all the Halos.
> - -There’s no system which prevents me, a solo player, from being paired against a team of players.
> - -I’ve been paired up against a team of 2 pros and 2 semi pros, I’m Gold III. We lost by 2 kills, I pulled a 5.0 KDR and my team went mad negative. My skill rank dropped. Does this not exemplify how the rank system is broken?
> - -Make weapon switching so much faster. At least twice as fast. I find myself with Prophets bain being nearly useless because when I need to use it I switch to it but can’t use it for a good 2 seconds until it’s completely withdrawn. It’s supposed to be a weapon you switch to, so why is it so bad at being switched to? Surely 343 doesn’t expect me to always have this weapon equipped ready to swing with it. This slow weapon switch also ruins my habit of Y-Y’ing the sniper scope instead of zooming out because it takes too long for the sniper to return.
> - -Display my SR rank somewhere. No one actually knows I’m SR-10 (including myself) unless I actually go to my service record. It seems you stress competitive skill rank far too much, which you shouldn’t do. (especially because competitive skill rank is totally a broken concept)
> - -Thruster pack needs a longer cooldown by at least 3 more seconds.
> - -Give an option to turn off controller vibrations since there’s no system way to do so.
> - -Take out the frat brothers high-five chest bump stuff. It’s not funny and not cool in any way. I’m not supposed to feel like a 5 year old when I play this game but I do.
> - -Make kill cams optional.
> - -Never have ground pound on the same button as crouch, especially because it’s on so many button layouts.
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Your spoiler is another thread you made…Stop being annoying. Also I’m pretty sure by the way you use that word, that you don’t know what a bigot is.

Either way stop flooding the forums with your trash kid.

OP there seems to be very little, if anything, you like about the game. There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting good things about the game. If you don’t let the dev’s know what you think they got right then they might change it.

Perhaps it is time you moved on. You gave an ultimatum in this post, I think its time you made good on it.

Post about bigots from a bigot. “Let’s focus on all the negative, because the game sucks, IMO.” What a joke. Get lost.