It's not COD but it's not Halo either.

  1. We call know COD didn’t invent sprint, load-outs, ordinance drops, and repetitive gameplay with little skill involved. But in todays age of games this is the easily more recognizable game to use it and compare it to.

  2. Halo 4’s MP feels nothing like previous halo games, you can’t deny that. Even Reach had closer gameplay to what we are used to and that’s why everyone said it sucked.

  3. What happened to the Halo we’ve known for almost 10 years. Everyone spawns with the same weapons and its a battle for control of the weapons and the best spots on the maps. Nobody even bothers to pick up these weapons laying around the map because the DRM will do just fine.

  4. Objective games are gone. Wheres 1 or neutral flag? Where is the option where you cant shot and drop the flag? No territories, VIP, Rocket Race, Land Grab, assault, team doubles, multi team.

  5. No weapons on the map have completely changed the way this game is played.

  6. Customs Games and File Share are non existent.

  7. A lot of people on here are probably young and don’t remember the days of Halo CE, Halo 2 and even Halo 3 in its prime so a lot of these changes don’t matter to them but to the hardcore fan they do. Skill and teamwork has been taken out of this game.

  1. Like all good games, Halo 4 took aspects from other successful games and incorporated them. Thus this is the process of evolution.

  2. Halo 4 feels like Halo to me, just newer. Reach gameplay was quite different from previous games with bloom, armour abilities and sprint which is why many people disliked it. Since Reach is a previous Halo game now, and since Halo 4 still takes aspects from even earlier games as well, it feels like previous Halo games with an added flair.

  3. I do agree that I miss the set power weapon spawning and all that, but Halo 4 still has decent power weapons that people still battle to control such as the incineration cannon, sticky detonator, stuff like that.

  4. There’s still King of the Hill, Capture the Flag, Oddball, etc. More gametypes and playlists will be probably be added in the future like in past games.

  5. Not sure what you meant by this.

  6. They’re there, check the spartan HUB.

  7. I started off by playing Halo CE so I myself am a little skeptical when they make changes to the game. But the game needs to change and evolve for it to thrive and continue to be a fun game to play or else we might as well have been playing Halo CE for the last decade. I can still say that I’ve played against some teams and some skilled players in Halo 4 and had my butt thoroughly kicked.

Counter Strike has been the same game forever. I haven’t played CS:GO but from CS to 1.6 to source remained the same and that was sine 1999, 2003 for 1.6. People still play CS even though it has remained the same longer then Halo.

> 2. Halo 4’s MP feels nothing like previous halo games, you can’t deny that. Even Reach had closer gameplay to what we are used to and that’s why everyone said it sucked.

I was cool with everything but armor lock. Seriously. It’s like a big PAUSE button during gameplay

As I said in the other thread:

  1. Fair. But why bothering comparing? The features are the features of the game. If you must compare, save the comparisons to prior Halo games. I don’t see how it’s relevant comparing it to Call of Duty at all. They’re too different in core gameplay for it to really matter.

  2. Accurate.

  3. I find the map weapons to be quite powerful if used correctly and tactically. The SAW, Shotgun, & Energy Sword can be amazing for kill streaks when you properly position yourself. The gravity hammer sucks. The sniper is obviously amazing if you can pull off the HS required to make it so. I could go on and on. I disagree with you here, anyhow.

  4. Agreed. Fortunately, these are things that can be fixed and I have the feeling 343 is already planning to play around with this.

  5. See 3

  6. Agreed. Hoping this changes. Edit: They’re there! Cool.

  7. Skill and teamwork will win a match any time. If you communicate with your team, work together, and strategically hold points, push forward, etc… and actually have a team to play with, you’re most likely going to win unless you’re playing against a superior team using teamwork as well.

I agree that it isn’t as competitive as the other Halo games. But I do think that the core of Halo is there. It has very fast and fun gameplay. And I LOVE it.

There is still Slayer Pro + MLG is probably going to come up with something + You can make a super Competitive gametype on your own in custom games. This Halo is very fun and I encourage you to take what you can from it and make it your own game.

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> Counter Strike has been the same game forever. I haven’t played CS:GO but from CS to 1.6 to source remained the same and that was sine 1999, 2003 for 1.6. People still play CS even though it has remained the same longer then Halo.

True…
But CS is nowhere near as popular as it once was. CS:GO does not have as many players as it should. This is because they failed to stay relevant and interest shifted elsewhere with exception for the hardcore CS’rs still remaining like me. Love me some CS.

> 1. Like all good games, Halo 4 took aspects from other successful games and incorporated them. Thus this is the process of evolution.
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> 2. Halo 4 feels like Halo to me, just newer. Reach gameplay was quite different from previous games with bloom, armour abilities and sprint which is why many people disliked it. Since Reach is a previous Halo game now, and since Halo 4 still takes aspects from even earlier games as well, it feels like previous Halo games with an added flair.
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> 3. I do agree that I miss the set power weapon spawning and all that, but Halo 4 still has decent power weapons that people still battle to control such as the incineration cannon, sticky detonator, stuff like that.
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> 4. There’s still King of the Hill, Capture the Flag, Oddball, etc. More gametypes and playlists will be probably be added in the future like in past games.
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> 5. Not sure what you meant by this.
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> 6. They’re there, check the spartan HUB.
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> 7. I started off by playing Halo CE so I myself am a little skeptical when they make changes to the game. But the game needs to change and evolve for it to thrive and continue to be a fun game to play or else we might as well have been playing Halo CE for the last decade. I can still say that I’ve played against some teams and some skilled players in Halo 4 and had my butt thoroughly kicked.

Lol your theory of evolution is crap. Evolution doesn’t have a mind of it’s own, natural selection is what allows random adaptations to be passed down. You describe the process of mimicry, the whole “monkey see monkey do” which is contrary to your argument.

> > Counter Strike has been the same game forever. I haven’t played CS:GO but from CS to 1.6 to source remained the same and that was sine 1999, 2003 for 1.6. People still play CS even though it has remained the same longer then Halo.
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> True…
> But CS is nowhere near as popular as it once was. CS:GO does not have as many players as it should. This is because they failed to stay relevant and interest shifted elsewhere with exception for the hardcore CS’rs still remaining like me. Love me some CS.

CS 1.6, CS:S and CS:GO are all in Steams top 10 played games of the day.

Still feels very much like Halo to me.

God I don’t care anymore, If you want COD go play COD and get off this forums if you want halo, get off the PC and just go play halo. If I see any more of this threads pop up it will be far too soon.

So many of you guys did this before and during Reach, just because something uses a system that like a older games dos not make it a rip off! Gears was not the first to make Wall cover. COD was not the first shooter. Hell lets just call every game a rip off of Pong because its a video game and that one was the first to do it. If you wanna see a blaten rip off of COD go play the newer MOH. Other then that this threads can go die and all the people who keep flooding the forums with this and keeping illegitimate concerns flooded by this BS

> God I don’t care anymore, If you want COD go play COD and get off this forums if you want halo, get off the PC and just go play halo. If I see any more of this threads pop up it will be far too soon.
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> So many of you guys did this before and during Reach, just because something uses a system that like a older games dos not make it a rip off! Gears was not the first to make Wall cover. COD was not the first shooter. Hell lets just call every game a rip off of Pong because its a video game and that one was the first to do it. If you wanna see a blaten rip off of COD go play the newer MOH. Other then that this threads can go die and all the people who keep flooding the forums with this and keeping illegitimate concerns flooded by this BS

Obviously you didn’t read my post at all.

> > God I don’t care anymore, If you want COD go play COD and get off this forums if you want halo, get off the PC and just go play halo. If I see any more of this threads pop up it will be far too soon.
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> > So many of you guys did this before and during Reach, just because something uses a system that like a older games dos not make it a rip off! Gears was not the first to make Wall cover. COD was not the first shooter. Hell lets just call every game a rip off of Pong because its a video game and that one was the first to do it. If you wanna see a blaten rip off of COD go play the newer MOH. Other then that this threads can go die and all the people who keep flooding the forums with this and keeping illegitimate concerns flooded by this BS
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> Obviously you didn’t read my post at all.

I did Im just sick and tired of seeing this -Yoink- keep popping up, I don’t give a -Yoink-! This is a halo game to me a vary fun and much faster halo game, yes it has but and problems but guess what THIS IS 343i FIRST FREAKING GAME. There WILL be problems they put so much time a effort into this game and trying to make the fans happy we should at lest give them a pat on the back for effort and tell them what is wrong with the game not constantly berating them for now remaking Halo CE again

> > > Counter Strike has been the same game forever. I haven’t played CS:GO but from CS to 1.6 to source remained the same and that was sine 1999, 2003 for 1.6. People still play CS even though it has remained the same longer then Halo.
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> > True…
> > But CS is nowhere near as popular as it once was. CS:GO does not have as many players as it should. This is because they failed to stay relevant and interest shifted elsewhere with exception for the hardcore CS’rs still remaining like me. Love me some CS.
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> CS 1.6, CS:S and CS:GO are all in Steams top 10 played games of the day.

CS:GO had 22,000 players at peak today. That is incredibly, incredibly low for a CS game. CS:GO isn’t attracting much sales.

> > > God I don’t care anymore, If you want COD go play COD and get off this forums if you want halo, get off the PC and just go play halo. If I see any more of this threads pop up it will be far too soon.
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> > > So many of you guys did this before and during Reach, just because something uses a system that like a older games dos not make it a rip off! Gears was not the first to make Wall cover. COD was not the first shooter. Hell lets just call every game a rip off of Pong because its a video game and that one was the first to do it. If you wanna see a blaten rip off of COD go play the newer MOH. Other then that this threads can go die and all the people who keep flooding the forums with this and keeping illegitimate concerns flooded by this BS
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> > Obviously you didn’t read my post at all.
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> I did Im just sick and tired of seeing this Yoink! keep popping up, I don’t give a -Yoink!-! This is a halo game to me a vary fun and much faster halo game, yes it has but and problems but guess what THIS IS 343i FIRST FREAKING GAME. There WILL be problems they put so much time a effort into this game and trying to make the fans happy we should at lest give them a pat on the back for effort and tell them what is wrong with the game not constantly berating them for now remaking Halo CE again

You say we should tell 343 what is wrong then criticize people for telling them what is wrong? You’re a dumb -Yoink-. If you don’t like the topic then move along and keep living in denial that this is a much different halo game.

It’s like Halo and CoD had a baby and Halo kicked CoD out in the streets like the stupid bum it is and continued to raise Halo 4 on it’s own.

Enough CoD to shudder at but still enough Halo to play.

Honestly, just remove the kill cams and I’ll feel less horrible about playing multiplayer.

You’re right OP, it’s neither. It is…

HALO, REBORN!

Thank you!!! This is what I’ve been saying! It’s not exactly COD but it’s not really HALO either.

I think 343’s first halo game is ok does not hold my interest enough for continuous play. I also felt the same about Halo:CE when it first came out. It was Halo 2 that made me a fanatic and spend most of my time thinking about the game and playing it. With this in mind Halo 4 is like Halo:CE due to the fact that a new company is making the game and by the way 343 if you guys read this unlike some I think you guys did an excellent job making this game seeing as your new to making halo games so just know some people are thankful for all your hard work you put into this game. With that said Halo 5 will possibly reconnect me with my love of Halo. I would also love to see the flood return because they were fun and interesting to fight and new forms and graphics for them would be awsome I would make a 343 shrine then. I hope you make Halo 5 a story were john ends up on Instillation 07 which if im right is completely flood infested and the precursors get rapped up in the story as well in Halo 6 in which you must travel to the only intact precursor world left to finally stop the flood and precursors. That is all I have to say what to you guys think of the ideas I have. Have any you would like to see.

lol your tears are delicious!