It's not ADS

ADS is only a thing in games where your bullets go in random directions while out of scope. Why arent people getting that?

It’s called a “visual change”<3

Well technically, because he is aiming down sights, it is in fact “Aiming Down Sights”.

It kinda is. Visual or not, seeing iron sights on the pistol while zooming is…weird. Same with teh Carbine.

Not saying I hate it, but smart scope is just a fancy word for a modified ADS.

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> It kinda is. Visual or not, seeing iron sights on the pistol while zooming is…weird. Same with teh Carbine.
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> Not saying I hate it, but smart scope is just a fancy word for a modified ADS.

Well, if they called it ADS they knew everyone would freak out. (They freaked out anyway) But during the beta they had a reason to, as the ADS did have a gameplay changing effect that they have since removed. Which means now its just a visual thing (For most weapons). I do however like how the automatics like the SAW and Assault Rifle have you zoom in along the side instead of the traditional aim down the top. Its bizarre but kind of interesting.

The weapons always had them, so aiming down sights shouldn’t worry anyone and why should you be concerned about it. People have been using the visor zoom since halo: CE.

can anyone explain any other reason rather than standard bull?

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> The weapons always had them, so aiming down sights shouldn’t worry anyone and why should you be concerned about it. People have been using the visor zoom since halo: CE.
> can anyone explain any other reason rather than standard bull?

I which halo can I zoom in while simultaneously firing an AR? Or a shotgun?
Vizor zoom =/= smart scope/ads

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> > It kinda is. Visual or not, seeing iron sights on the pistol while zooming is…weird. Same with teh Carbine.
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> > Not saying I hate it, but smart scope is just a fancy word for a modified ADS.
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> Well, if they called it ADS they knew everyone would freak out. (They freaked out anyway) But during the beta they had a reason to, as the ADS did have a gameplay changing effect that they have since removed. Which means now its just a visual thing (For most weapons). I do however like how the automatics like the SAW and Assault Rifle have you zoom in along the side instead of the traditional aim down the top. Its bizarre but kind of interesting.

Yup, and once again I’m not against it. It’s just I felt it should be pointed out that it is still ADS, albeit modified on a gameplay level compared to other ADS-based games.

It’s called Smart Link :slight_smile:

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> It’s called Smart Link :slight_smile:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the new one called Smart Scope while the old is Smart Link?

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> > It’s called Smart Link :slight_smile:
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the new one called Smart Scope while the old is Smart Link?

smart link I believe is actually the connection of the visor and the gun itself. Not the PoF.

Its ADS. Is it ADS exactly as seen in other games? No, but that doesn’t change the intent. Just because it has been balanced in a way we are familiar with doesn’t make it an entirely new mechanic.

Its called Smart-Scope because Now with ADS! doesn’t look good on the back of the box. By that logic, 343 could have claimed they removed Sprint and instead added “Spartan Speed” after tying the mechanic to shield recharge. Changing the way something is balanced does not make it entirely new mechanic.

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> It’s called a “visual change”
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Objectively False. You can’t call it a ‘visual change’ when you take what was originally a weapon trait and apply it across the entire game.

To top it all off the whole mechanic doesn’t even make sense from a lore perspective and is inconsistently applied to boot. The whole point of the smart link business was to explain why the player doesn’t need to aim down sights to aim, its why the CE Pistol doesn’t need any front iron sights, because the scope links directly to the visor. You could argue why can UNSC equipment access Covenant/Forerunner optics, but if you accept Cortana and other AI can access Covenant systems, surely its not much of a stretch to say a state of the art armor system couldn’t interact with (relatively) simple small arms.

Even ignoring all that if they wanted to consider it as a upgrade post H4, the rules still don’t make sense. Why do you have to aim down the sight to smart scope with say the SMG or BR, but the AR doesn’t need any aiming assistance? At the very least there is a way they could have introduced the mechanic in a way that is more lore friendly but they can’t even do that right…

Smart Scope is ADS, just accept it and be honest about what you are defending. And its completely fine if you want to defend the addition of ADS, just don’t swallow PR spin so readily.

I think it’s -Yoink- that they say well it’s smart scope because ahur ahur ahur. No, The smart link was between the spartan and the weapon hense why there is a dot where the bullet is going to go. There was also a scoped view that was directly viewed from the weapon itself. The reason why these weapons have iron sights is for regular soldiers who don’t have HUD’s. ADS is Aiming down the damn iron sight like in halo 5 and every other generic shooter in the market. I dont care if the sight is holographic or IRON it’s still a sight which you aim down.

HAS ANYONE EVEN NOTICED THAT THERE IS STILL A RETICLE ON THE SO CALLED “ADS” THAT IS IN HALO? -_-
Like seriously I’m so tired of it being called “ads” when in reality it’s no where near that.
Smart scope is just zoom without the darkining of the outer part of the screen and pretty little details instead.

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> HAS ANYONE EVEN NOTICED THAT THERE IS STILL A RETICLE ON THE SO CALLED “ADS” THAT IS IN HALO? -_-
> Like seriously I’m so tired of it being called “ads” when in reality it’s no where near that.
> Smart scope is just zoom without the darkining of the outer part of the screen and pretty little details instead.

So Halo snipers aren’t real snipers then because I’ve played a few games where the reticule isn’t present when you use a sniper?

A rose by any other name, OP.

“ADS” is literally just an initialism of “Aim Down Sights”. That’s all it stands for. Of course everybody is free to use whatever definition they want to come up with, and use it at the risk of being misunderstood. Language is about communication; there’s no “correct” definition here, just different people who understand the same term in different ways. If you want to clarify: “Hey, just so you know, by ‘ADS’ I mean this and that”, then that’s fine, but anybody who gets angry at people for using the term the “wrong” way just needs to relax.

This also applies to any other trivial language dispute on the internet, whether it be usage of the word “literally”, Oxford comma, or the pronounciation of “gif”. A means of communication is all language is, and as long as everybody understands each other, everything is fine.

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> > HAS ANYONE EVEN NOTICED THAT THERE IS STILL A RETICLE ON THE SO CALLED “ADS” THAT IS IN HALO? -_-
> > Like seriously I’m so tired of it being called “ads” when in reality it’s no where near that.
> > Smart scope is just zoom without the darkining of the outer part of the screen and pretty little details instead.
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> So Halo snipers aren’t real snipers then because I’ve played a few games where the reticule isn’t present when you use a sniper?

How did you derive that conclusion to what I said? A zoom is a zoom Halo 5’s weaponry does not rely on their “iron sights” (which are none existent by the way) Even with the exception of the pistol, it clearly shows the iron sight when you zoom in, but it still doesn’t rely on it. The pistol when zooming still has its reticle. If the weapons actually used their “iron sights” the reticle would disappear. Therefore ADS =/= Smart Scope/Smart Link. Then again you could prove me wrong. :slight_smile:

Destiny has Ads. Bullets dont go randomly out reticle when not using it.

If you aim down sights, it is ADS.

Here we go again it is by definition Aiming down sights that doesn’t mean it’s implemented like hmm let’s say Cod. The horse is beyond dead it’s a pile of crushed bones…

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> ADS is only a thing in games where your bullets go in random directions while out of scope. Why arent people getting that?
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> It’s called a “visual change”
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Wait wait wait…

SO you’re honestly trying to tell us that its just a “visual change”
Even tho they have confirmed that while in ADS automatic weapons get both an accuracy buff AND a headshot multiplyer?

When in the history of any halo has the automatic weapons had headshot multiplyers?

Its not a visual change its a mechanic change and its not needed…