This community is so split on which way Halo is going. Every thread I go into same old story “halo need to get back to its roots” or “halo is evolving for the better”. This is why I think 343 is going with their own direction for Halo and seeing our reactions and feedback and will tweak it accordingly.
They don’t seem to be tweaking it for the majority. And tweaking? Seriously? Halo needs a major heart transplant and stat.
they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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> They don’t seem to be tweaking it for the majority. And tweaking? Seriously? Halo needs a major heart transplant and stat.
Like it or not, competitive players are the minority.
Welcome to the Halo community
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Still find myself asking why Halo 4 bombed.
There’s nothing competitive about the game. Easy aim, imbalanced classes, kewl abilities…
Really seems like something “casuals” would eat up…yet the game didn’t even last a few weeks.
I think the problem runs deeper than just two competing stereotypes.
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maybe, but there also the players who stick around long after all the casuals have moved on
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> they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
Source? Otherwise I’ll be reporting you for making non-constructive posts.
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> they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
That’s a lie, the exact quote was “we hired people who hated certain aspects of Halo.” But every one of them was a fan in some capacity, just not a fan of everything.
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> > they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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LOL report away bud. heres my source… its about the dev of halo 4… the link there is an article about
i can probably find more… but since your lazy here’s a couple…
Edit: my links didnt work for some reason… but since your too lazy to google search, you can at least copy n paste… g’day.
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Yeah, and that’s kinda interesting. Those MLG-Jerks don’t have a clue about the entertainment value of a video-game, so Halo 5 shouldn’t be inspired by competitive aspects(not only though).
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> > they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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ok? regardless of what aspect they didnt like… they ended up with halo 4… if that doesn’t prove my point, then i guess you white knights will just buy up anythign with halo written on it… ill spray paint my old sega dreamcast with a halo tag… wanna buy it?
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> > > they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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Actually if you read the Gamasutra article with the full quote, you’ll see that the Rooster Teeth paraphrase of the article was actually cutting it up to misrepresent the full quote as it suited his needs and agenda.
“We had people who we hired who hated Halo because of ‘X,’” says O’Connor. "But what that really meant was, ‘I feel like this game could be awesome because of ‘Y input’ that I’m going to bring into it. I want to prove it, and I’m passionate about proving it.’ So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product. That is a huge advantage, and that helped in hiring and forming our team." ~Frank O’Connor
You’re not making a good case for yourself at all.
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> > > > they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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i reread what i had said… and it does seem as if i’m trying to bash the company/games… I AM NOT… i had fun with 4, and probably will with 5. i dont play games competitively, i play them for fun… so they can throw whatever they want in the game, and ill play it… i was just trying to explain why people hate the changes that they are making, and no matter how much you cry, that’s what 343i set out to do, was change aspect “x” of the game… so that’s what they did, and you will not get your bungie’s classic halo back, ever, no matter how much you want it.
343 just needs to design two game modes to satisfy both players.
The hardcore MLG people should have their slayer BR, no radar game type.
The competitive crowd (yes that’s me because I’m not as extreme as MLG) want a fair game type but not one that is 95% BRs.
And the casual community, which basically wants Call of Duty handholding stuff. Nothing wrong with that.
So 343 just needs to have variety. Halo has always been about variety.
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> > > > > they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
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> i reread what i had said… and it does seem as if i’m trying to bash the company/games… I AM NOT… i had fun with 4, and probably will with 5. i dont play games competitively, i play them for fun… so they can throw whatever they want in the game, and ill play it… i was just trying to explain why people hate the changes that they are making, and no matter how much you cry, that’s what 343i set out to do, was change aspect “x” of the game… so that’s what they did, and you will not get your bungie’s classic halo back, ever, no matter how much you want it.
That’s more in line with what I wanted to hear.
I’ve played Halo since CE, I am 100% supportive of their changes in Halo 5. It remains true to the core aspects of Halo multiplayer while also bringing in some new elements to the field of play. It makes it familiar while giving us something fresh to toy around with just like every Halo game before it.
Every online community has arguments like this. Unfortunately this is the norm.
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Yes.
I love playing competitively and I like to think I’m fairly good at the Halo series, but BR starts just isn’t for H5. It negates the movement they spent so much time implementing.
I’m not a socialite, but I am a Halo fan and a gamer in general. I just want a quality video game. Is that so much to ask for?
So far I like H5, but there are problems with it and that’s why there is a beta, to find this problems and iron them out.
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> they are going their own direction w halo bc that’s what they set out to do… i mean they hired people specifically bc they hated halo, and wanted to make changes to it… this is not speculation, this is fact… so anyone who thinks that 343i will ever take halo back to its roots, is just dumb…
No… Thats an ignorant thing to say. Get your conspiracy out of here
> When did the will of the old fans have been met? Evolve and change are totally different things have changed so much and now are trying to convince me that first trilogy was bad!