Its great... There is just one GLARING problem

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> Instead of nerfing the AR how about no one starts with an AR. Instead everyone has BRs or DMRs. That would make the AR a kind of power weapon. I would like to see this mode for a couple of days and see if it fixes the quick kills.

How about we start with dmrs? Nobody likes DMRs anymore!

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> please, for the love of all that is Halo, PLEASE INCREASE THE SHIELD STRENGTH. I feel like I’m playing COD. I can’t escape being shot from behind. I find it damn near impossible to fight with two people as my shields are knocked almost instantly. That is not Halo. I should’ve able to fight someone shooting me from behind. I should be able to a decent chance on a 2v1.
> but you don’t stand a chance. Don’t tell me I’m bad either. I have a 7.1 kda and a 1.68 KD. This needs to be changed, it honestly feels more like COD than Halo. By a margin.

-Have to play devils advocate here-

but what about sprint and thruster packs offering a get out of jail free card? Shouldn’t you master those like some and become the unkillable like so many apparently are?

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> > please, for the love of all that is Halo, PLEASE INCREASE THE SHIELD STRENGTH. I feel like I’m playing COD. I can’t escape being shot from behind. I find it damn near impossible to fight with two people as my shields are knocked almost instantly. That is not Halo. I should’ve able to fight someone shooting me from behind. I should be able to a decent chance on a 2v1.
> > but you don’t stand a chance. Don’t tell me I’m bad either. I have a 7.1 kda and a 1.68 KD. This needs to be changed, it honestly feels more like COD than Halo. By a margin.
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> but what about sprint and thruster packs offering a get out of jail free card? Shouldn’t you master those like some and become the unkillable like so many apparently are?

I feel like since its halo, I shouldn’t have to.

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> Instead of nerfing the AR how about no one starts with an AR. Instead everyone has BRs or DMRs. That would make the AR a kind of power weapon. I would like to see this mode for a couple of days and see if it fixes the quick kills.

I’m pretty sure the BR beats the AR everytime. Unless you’re shooting the toes. AR has some range but I wouldn’t consider it a power weapon. I would never pick it up if they handed me a BR.
I actually like the BR as a pick up. That said, I can’t wait for Team BRs :slight_smile:

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> > Instead of nerfing the AR how about no one starts with an AR. Instead everyone has BRs or DMRs. That would make the AR a kind of power weapon. I would like to see this mode for a couple of days and see if it fixes the quick kills.
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> I’m pretty sure the BR beats the AR everytime. Unless you’re shooting the toes. AR has some range but I wouldn’t consider it a power weapon. I would never pick it up if they handed me a BR.
> I actually like the BR as a pick up. That said, I can’t wait for Team BRs :slight_smile:

Meh, the AR, and the SMG definitely need some nerfing so that confrontations are longer. Also, the fire rate on the BR could be dumbed down slightly. And BAM, you have a beautiful HALO* game

This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.

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> This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.

This is EXACTLY howI feel

Weapons have relatively the same damage rates as older Halo’s, what has changed is the no health regen after you sprint, making you vulnerable for longer periods of time.

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> > It’s not that terrible, BR is still 4-shot perfect. The main issue is that the AR is a little OP and that is everyone’s starting weapon. I wouldn’t be opposed to a slight increase, but to me skirmish times & TTK feel about the same as previous Halo games. The movement speed brings this illusion that EVERYTHING is faster, but it really isn’t. You get annihilated in ANY Halo when you get dual shot with ARs.
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> I am not sure about the balance of this BR compared to the H2 BR…I really wish 343i would bring back the H2 BR…It was awesome and balanced…!

If by “balanced” you mean “the only viable gun in the game” then yes, it was. It’s about time other guns could properly compete.

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> This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.

Insta killed? you’re either lying or you’re playing a different beta than i am

xbox one dvr clip (watch last kill)

Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.

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> Weapons have relatively the same damage rates as older Halo’s, what has changed is the no health regen after you sprint, making you vulnerable for longer periods of time.

That has NOTHING to do with it. Confrontations take at least 2 seconds longer than other Halo titles. That is a drastic diiference

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> > This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.
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> Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.

Did I say confrontations with a single person, or two people. You die almost instantly with 2 enemies firing at you with AR/SMGs

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> > > This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.
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> > Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.
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> Did I say confrontations with a single person, or two people. You die almost instantly with 2 enemies firing at you with AR/SMGs

Well duh, that is pretty obvious. That is how it is in any shooter, including old Halo’s.

If the OP is complaining about how much more intense firefights are in Halo 5 then it only subscribes the notion that somehow 343 made halo a lot more fast paced and action packed. And its a wonderful wonderful thing.

This game is NOTHING like CoD and I’m sick of people saying that it is! A BR is at best a 4 shot kill JUST LIKE IT WAS IN 2 AND 3

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> > > > This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.
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> > > Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.
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> > Did I say confrontations with a single person, or two people. You die almost instantly with 2 enemies firing at you with AR/SMGs
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> Well duh, that is pretty obvious. That is how it is in any shooter, including old Halo’s.
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> If the OP is complaining about how much more intense firefights are in Halo 5 then it only subscribes the notion that somehow 343 made halo a lot more fast paced and action packed. And its a wonderful wonderful thing.

First of all, I am the OP, and 4-6 assult rifle shots take your shields off. It would be such a well paced Halo if those thruster pack-ing, intense one on one battles lasted a tad bit longer and let you come out with a little bit more health

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> This game is NOTHING like CoD and I’m sick of people saying that it is! A BR is at best a 4 shot kill JUST LIKE IT WAS IN 2 AND 3

Anything else to back up that the ttk is closer COD than any other past Halos?

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> > > > > This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.
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> > > > Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.
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> First of all, I am the OP, and 4-6 assult rifle shots take your shields off. It would be such a well paced Halo if those thruster pack-ing, intense one on one battles lasted a tad bit longer and let you come out with a little bit more health

4 to 6 shots? dude you’re not talking about a DMR, you’re talking about a fully automatic weapon that shoots 10 bullets in under a second. If your claim was correct the it means the kill times for Halo 5 would be , on average, under a second. Which is obviously nonsense.

I’ve shared a video with you where it took nearly a clip of direct shots to kill someone, and yet you continue with your BS claims. This conversation isn’t going anywhere.

Um, if the other players have any clue what they’re doing, you should pretty much be hosed if you get into a 1v2…

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> > > > > > This. I am so tired of pretty much being insta killed when I run into 2 people. It’s almost pointless to try and shoot either one of them.
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> > > > > Nope, not instant at all. If it was instant i wouldn’t have had the need to thrust around him and melee.
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> > > > Did I say confrontations with a single person, or two people. You die almost instantly with 2 enemies firing at you with AR/SMGs
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> > First of all, I am the OP, and 4-6 assult rifle shots take your shields off. It would be such a well paced Halo if those thruster pack-ing, intense one on one battles lasted a tad bit longer and let you come out with a little bit more health
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> 4 to 6 shots? dude you’re not talking about a DMR, you’re talking about a fully automatic weapon that shoots 10 bullets in under a second. If your claim was correct the it means the kill times for Halo 5 would be , on average, under a second. Which is obviously nonsense.
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> I’ve shared a video with you where it took nearly a clip of direct shots to kill someone, and yet you continue with your BS claims. This conversation isn’t going anywhere.

I was exaggerating, because that’s basically how it feel by the things power and fire rate