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> > You use the word they an awful lot, especially for an exchange of > 3 offending posts. I never insulted you either, but rather meant to ensure that - yes - DARTH CEDIOUS did actually reply to the “not joke” part of your post. He replied to the entire thing - or his statements can be construed to be a response to your entire thing. After all, it is still ridiculous to assume anything about the way SWB plays right off the bat, regardless of whether it’ll be like Classic Battlefront or (for lack of a better term) Battlefield 4.5, based on the complete and total lack of information we have. That was my point. The logical statements you made were addressed by CEDIOUS, and he just used unfortunate verbiage before he…or anyone…knew it was a joke. Take out that one pernicious word - Battlefield 4.5 - and his reply to yours remains exactly the same. There we go. No one’s getting uptight over a joke and no one else is getting their reading comprehension insulted.
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> > How do you know? Did you play it? From what we know (no ADS, reduced destruction, Heros, buddy-system) SWB looks to be far from beeing Battlefield 4.5 …that is nothing but an senseless bash against an other game that you can not back up with facts…
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> Yeah, that really sounds like a reply to all my points - which are all confirmed by the Battlefront devs to be accurate - and not just a reply to the final statement about “Battlefield 4.5 v2”.
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> He talks about nothing besides actual gameplay - referring to the lack of ADS, reduced destruction, Hero/buddy system - which none of my points even dealt with (barring the seamless third-to-first person view switching, which is also confirmed). I talked about stuff like the lack of Galactic Conquest and space battles, the general scope of the game that upsets me. I don’t see how any of that could be “senseless bashing without facts”, because it is all public knowledge that has been officially released by the developers. So the only thing he could have possibly been referring to was the “Battlefield 4.5 v2” remark, which he assumed was me actually claiming that it was going to be a copy of Battlefield 4, when in reality it was just a satirical jest about the “dumbing down” from the classic Battlefront style to better appeal to the Battlefield crowd.
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> > Yeah, not sure what Graham meant by “staying true to the roots and avoiding game fads”. Seamless in-game third-to-first person camera switching? No galactic conquest? No space battles? Loadout and character customization? DICE has botched Battlefront far worse than 343 has “botched” Halo.
> > Case in point: I have loved both franchises from the beginning, and I have preordered the LCE for Halo 5, but I will not even be buying Battlefront (aka Battlefield 4.5 v2).
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> How do you know? Did you play it? From what we know (no ADS, reduced destruction, Heros, buddy-system) SWB looks to be far from beeing Battlefield 4.5 …that is nothing but an senseless bash against an other game that you can not back up with facts…
Allow me to break it down the way I envisioned it.
> Yeah, not sure what Graham meant by “staying true to the roots and avoiding game fads”. Seamless in-game third-to-first person camera switching? No galactic conquest? No space battles? Loadout and character customization?
These are all features that are confirmed not to be in SWB. (And it sucks major donkey balls)
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These are all features that are confirmed to be in SWB. (I’m not discerning between gametype and game mechanic for this, and I don’t think CEDIOUS would have either. Also, Loadout customization does mess with gameplay - especially classed based gameplay like the Original SWB and SWBII.)
You said:
> DICE has botched Battlefront far worse than 343 has “botched” Halo.
To which he directly replied:
> How do you know? Did you play it?
Now of course, we know…now…that the Battlefield 4.5 v2 thing was a joke that wasn’t meant to be taken seriously, so if we pull that word out and substitute it for a likely synonym:
> SWB looks to be far from beeing a disaster that doesn’t hold true to classic gameplay.
And then he says:
> …that is nothing but an senseless bash against an other game that you can not back up with facts…
Which, if I’m correct, is what this whole thing is about. I’ll admit, it’s in ill taste, and he didn’t know you didn’t want that part to be taken seriously - but I honestly can’t shake the feeling that, regardless of what we’ve heard (and we’ve heard some seriously unappealing stuff) I think we could at least wait until some gameplay is released before we have a strong opinion one way or another. He’s being a -Yoink,- but I think he has something approaching a point.
Now, regardless of whether or not he did it in a particularly compelling way, from my point of view, he did provide a response to every piece of your post.