As many have said, don’t pay any attention to those that would seek to belittle your win.
If one wants to play a game without fullautos, there’s a couple lists to choose from that can offer fullauto-less (except the SAW) and of course there’s customs.
I see many players act like it doesn’t matter if it was a landslide or a close game, a win is a win, a loss is a loss.
Those players are almost always the same ones who don’t like others using “skill-less” weapons and abilities.
To them, well you just take your win, fullauto and smile with you onto the next match.
Let historians figure out who was cheap and you play the way you like to within the rules of the game.
Ha i dont think so. I use Automatic weapons all the time. But i gotta say its harder to get a kill with an Automatic then it is a precision rifle. I know ima work on my BR and DMR commendations and get the Protector Amor and then ima start using the Suppressor and the Stormrifle and yeah… I prefer the a Automatic with a precision rifle as a class set up. So with those you have the CQB powers of the Automatic and the range of the rifle.
…I use BR/DMR and I have no problem with automatic weapons. That’s assuming they meant precision rifles were “skilled weapons” lol. If someone tries to kill you in CQC with a BR/DMR/“skilled weapon?” and you have a suppressor…
It’s definitely more difficult to kill with an automatic than with a precision. The automatics’ main weakness is that they cannot get headshots. Once shields are gone, it takes a lot longer to take down the health with an automatic weapon than with a headshot from a precision weapon. This means that you have to make sure you either surprise your opponent to get in a few extra shots or are close enough for a finishing melee.
The other weakness is that their ranges suck. Most precision weapons are just as useful in close range as they are at medium-long range – TTK is about the same. Automatics’ usefulness declines sharply every few meters.
However, inflexibility does not equal skill. Just because a weapon is difficult to get kills with does not make it a more “skilled” weapon. By that reasoning, we could say a Boltshot’s uncharged shots require skill to use.
Precisions not only require better aiming, but better movement as well. Strafing, jumping between platforms, timing your shots and getting your opponent to miss his shots–these are techniques that require skill and give you an edge with a precision weapon, but are pretty much useless with an automatic. With how close you have to be with an automatic, there’s not really much you can do.
I don’t think that anyone deserves flak for using one weapon over another. Automatics are useful in some situations, just not as many situations as precisions are. IMO, an automatic is most useful (and fun) as a secondary to a precision weapon–I wreaked havoc in UNSC Slayer with the BR/AR combo.
Like many have said, there are unwritten rules that restrict players to either a “pro” (one who uses precision weapons) and “noobs” (one who uses automatic weapons). So yes, depending on who you ask, it is frowned upon.
I personally use both (almost all my loadouts have Firepower). I use Firepower because it FITS MY PLAY-STYLE. If you’re an aggressive player (like me) it only makes sense to carry a weapon optimized for close range. So use whatever weapons your heart desires. You bought Halo 4 to play it your way, not how someone else thinks you should play it.
Ill be honest with you is is NOT a bad thing that you use automatic weapons especially of you are in a Close-Quarters map like Adrift. Many players aren’t as good at using Automatic for some reason(like me lol) so we use the BR or Carbine for Close-Quarters maps. A good amount of players think that the AR or in this case Suppressor are "noobish’ weapons and if we were talking about this a few months ago before the Weapons Update they might have a valid point because the AUTO weapons had a lot of aim assist, but since the update it takes a bit more skill because you cant just Spray-n-Pray like before you have to keep that stream of bullets on the player to kill him/her. Like I said a big majority of players actually do frown upon those weapons but a lot of other players do not. So like some fellow spartans have said before me JUST IGNORE the hate bro and keep in mind that you were smart enough to use a weapon in the intended range lol.
GOOD LUCK OUT THERE WITH THE HATERS DUDE/DUDETTE JUST KEEP IN MIND “HATERS GONNA HATE” LOL
> > Alright I’ll give you a challenge, use the suppressor for the next 10 games then come back and lets talk about how easy or nooby it is. You need to actually use the gun a few times before you make such statements.
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> First of all, I have used the Suppressor. I’ve used every weapon in the game.
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> Second, being useless does not equate to having a skillgap. The Magnum is useless at long range due to bloom slowing its killtime, this does not inherently make it more difficult to use than another long range weapon, like the Sniper Rifle.
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> Likewise, once you are actually inside the Suppressor’s effective range it becomes very easy to aim. Being useless in all situations except point blank CQC =/= being skillful.
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> Melee must be the most skillful killing tool in the game if you are basing your argument around this logic.
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> On-topic I find it funny people would bash people over weapon choice in a game where both weapon types take little skill.
This man is very right. Harder does not mean more skillful.
For example, a team of plasma pistols vs a team of rockets. It would be incredibly difficult, but that doesnt mean its anymore skillful. PP is insanely weak, but also insanely easy to use.
> It’s definitely more difficult to kill with an automatic than with a precision. The automatics’ main weakness is that they cannot get headshots. Once shields are gone, it takes a lot longer to take down the health with an automatic weapon than with a headshot from a precision weapon. This means that you have to make sure you either surprise your opponent to get in a few extra shots or are close enough for a finishing melee.
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> The other weakness is that their ranges suck. Most precision weapons are just as useful in close range as they are at medium-long range – TTK is about the same. Automatics’ usefulness declines sharply every few meters.
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> However, inflexibility does not equal skill. Just because a weapon is difficult to get kills with does not make it a more “skilled” weapon. By that reasoning, we could say a Boltshot’s uncharged shots require skill to use.
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> Precisions not only require better aiming, but better movement as well. Strafing, jumping between platforms, timing your shots and getting your opponent to miss his shots–these are techniques that require skill and give you an edge with a precision weapon, but are pretty much useless with an automatic. With how close you have to be with an automatic, there’s not really much you can do.
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> I don’t think that anyone deserves flak for using one weapon over another. Automatics are useful in some situations, just not as many situations as precisions are. IMO, an automatic is most useful (and fun) as a secondary to a precision weapon–I wreaked havoc in UNSC Slayer with the BR/AR combo.
This. Otherwise, Plasma pistol would be most skillful weapon in game.
> > > Alright I’ll give you a challenge, use the suppressor for the next 10 games then come back and lets talk about how easy or nooby it is. You need to actually use the gun a few times before you make such statements.
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> > First of all, I have used the Suppressor. I’ve used every weapon in the game.
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> > Second, being useless does not equate to having a skillgap. The Magnum is useless at long range due to bloom slowing its killtime, this does not inherently make it more difficult to use than another long range weapon, like the Sniper Rifle.
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> > Likewise, once you are actually inside the Suppressor’s effective range it becomes very easy to aim. Being useless in all situations except point blank CQC =/= being skillful.
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> > Melee must be the most skillful killing tool in the game if you are basing your argument around this logic.
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> > On-topic I find it funny people would bash people over weapon choice in a game where both weapon types take little skill.
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> This man is very right. Harder does not mean more skillful.
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> For example, a team of plasma pistols vs a team of rockets. It would be incredibly difficult, but that doesnt mean its anymore skillful. PP is insanely weak, but also insanely easy to use.
True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
> > True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
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> So does the Plasma Pistol.
That was my point and autos are harder to use hell the BR is way to easy to use IMO it bare,y requires that much skill at least with hitscan.
> > > True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
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> > So does the Plasma Pistol.
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> That was my point and autos are harder to use hell the BR is way to easy to use IMO it bare,y requires that much skill at least with hitscan.
I just don’t think that a weapon’s “skill required” should be judged by how long it takes to kill someone. It should be judged based on what techniques you can use to gain an edge over another player with that weapon and how difficult those techniques are to master.
> > True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
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> So does the Plasma Pistol.
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> I don’t think that a weapons “skill required” should be judged by how long it takes to kill someone. It should be judged based on what techniques you can use to gain an edge with that weapon and how difficult those techniques are to master.
Yes and strafing and making nearly every shot hit is harder than must pointing and shooting at the head hence why everyone gets lots more precision weapon kills
> > > > True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
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> > > So does the Plasma Pistol.
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> > That was my point and autos are harder to use hell the BR is way to easy to use IMO it bare,y requires that much skill at least with hitscan.
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> I just don’t think that a weapons “skill required” should be judged by how long it takes to kill someone. It should be judged based on what techniques you can use to gain an edge over another player with that weapon and how difficult those techniques are to master.
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> For example, BR mastery requires a lot more movement than AR mastery.
Doesnt make it require any more or less skill besides you need to get closer to use the AR effectively making it harder to obtain kills with it.
> True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
So are you saying that automatics require more skill than precisions?
> Yes and strafing and making nearly every shot hit is harder than must pointing and shooting at the head hence why everyone gets lots more precision weapon kills
So are you saying that precisions require more skill than automatics?
> Doesnt make it require any more or less skill besides you need to get closer to use the AR effectively making it harder to obtain kills with it.
So are you saying that automatics require more skill than precisions?
Lol, please just come out and give me your opinion. You seem to contradict everything I say and are not being very definitive. I can’t tell if you’re trying to make a particular point or if you’re just being argumentative.
> > True its easy to use howwever the difficulty to obtain a kill makes it require quite alot of skill to use before they kill you.
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> So are you saying that automatics require more skill than precisions?
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> > Yes and strafing and making nearly every shot hit is harder than must pointing and shooting at the head hence why everyone gets lots more precision weapon kills
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> So are you saying that precisions require more skill than automatics?
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> > Doesnt make it require any more or less skill besides you need to get closer to use the AR effectively making it harder to obtain kills with it.
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> So are you saying that automatics require more skill than precisions?
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> Lol, please just come out and give me your opinion. You contradict everything I say; I can’t tell if you’re trying to make a particular point or if you’re just being argumentative.
Yes precision weapons take less skill, yes you may have to aim at their head and hit but they seem to be close to a utility weapon since theyre nearly good at all ranges and aiming isnt that difficult in the first place.
Also Im countering your argument if thats what you mean by contradicting because thats how a discussion works.
