is truth a known....

spawn killing map?

i swear every single time i play this map, my team gets spawn killed. to the point where, i could not spawn for more then half a second before getting shot in the face. (lost 50-6) at least in slayer

admittedly i am an inconstant player, i am either really hot, 1.2 K.D. or really cold. .8 K.D depending on the day. so i don’t enjoy playing slayer for the above reason.

but i find myself forced to play slayer because i want to play on the new maps -.-

i would love it if 343, map a team objective playlist or something, so objective players could experience the new maps without getting spawn trapped very 3 games sigh

link us the game replay. I bet you $100 you didn’t get spawn killed EVERY SINGLE TIME. :stuck_out_tongue:

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> link us the game replay. I bet you $100 you didn’t get spawn killed EVERY SINGLE TIME. :stuck_out_tongue:

how do i do that?

profile -> game history -> choose game

there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater

I’ve never been spawn killed on that map as much as I have been on maps like Antifreeze.

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> profile -> game history -> choose game
>
> there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater

okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though

Edit: my team was Red team.

send me the link of the game from your game history, I’ll check it out next time.

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> > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
>
>
> okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
>
> Edit: my team was Red team.

OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD

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> > > .profile -> game history -> choose game
> > >
> > > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
> >
> >
> > okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
> >
> > Edit: my team was Red team.
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>
> OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD

I think its this one

you should be able to predict spawns in arena. but if rankings work correctly you shouldnt be matched against a team that outclasses you by such a huge amount that you couldnt even fight back. but i guess it could happen

Maps like Truth and Regret have a high spawn kill rate (to my experience). It pretty much only happens with DMRs in Swat though, because their range makes it extremely easy to shoot across the map.
It’s not terrible, but it will occasionally happen. I have had a moment before where I died in a base from someone up in the corner pockets, then respawned in the same spot and got killed by the same guy. But that was only once.

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> > > > .profile -> game history -> choose game
> > > >
> > > > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
> > >
> > >
> > > okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
> > >
> > > Edit: my team was Red team.
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> >
> > OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD
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>
> I think its this one

“BOOKMARKED!”

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> > > > > .profile -> game history -> choose game
> > > > >
> > > > > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
> > > >
> > > > Edit: my team was Red team.
> > >
> > >
> > > OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD
> >
> >
> > I think its this one
>
>
> “BOOKMARKED!”

No spawn killing, idling though.

Instead of making you link your gameplay I went and watched your last Truth Slayer game. As others have said, you’re not getting spawn killed.

At 11:33, you spawn in relative safety inside blue bubble. I say relative because in carbine 2, just in front of you, you immediately witness your teammate get destroyed by fuel rod. You then walk straight into that same spot, and the guy with camo fuelrod kills you. This is not being spawn killed. This is you pushing forward to an area that you just saw a fuel rod kill your teammate. Camo fuel rod is a pretty good combo, and he may have found you anyway, but after what you saw, you probably should have backed up deeper into bubble, and your teammate coming out of blue might have helped you.

Your next two spawns you get at least one kill.

At 9:06 you spawn carbine 1 and you see a guy moving into red from pink 1. Your teammates are just coming out of red. You sprint towards red 2 and die in a 1v1. That isn’t being spawn killed. That’s sprinting towards the enemy and losing a 1v1.

At 8:49 you spawn in safety in blue two, try to sprint out carbine, get shot at by two people, try to run out pink side, get shot, then sprint out carbine side and get shot by two people.

At 8:24 you spawned red 2, and indeed there was a person sitting on top of bubble just after you spawned, a case that might have got you spawn killed. But actually you sprint at him, no gun drawn, he shoots you, you jump into attic, and get killed. This is as close to getting spawn killed as I have seen so far, but again you sprinted directly at the guy without looking at him, and with no gun drawn you obviously lost the fight.

I haven’t watched the rest. Being killed soon after you spawn is not necessarily being spawn killed. Most of this is you using sprint directly off spawn towards enemies, or towards places when you don’t know if there is an enemy. Off the very start you actually sprint all the way to their bubble, then immediately start sprinting back to your base, and get spartan charged in the back. There were enemies all around, but you sprinted from one side of the map and then back, without looking towards power weapons top mid, or towards power up in pink side (which contributed to camo fuel guy killing you on your next spawn).

Try slowing down a bit. When you spawn, look at your radar, see where your friends are, check if they are already fighting, and if you don’t know who is out the front door of your base, walk with your pistol out rather than sprint out the door.

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> > > > > > .profile -> game history -> choose game
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
> > > > >
> > > > > Edit: my team was Red team.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD
> > >
> > >
> > > I think its this one
> >
> >
> > “BOOKMARKED!”
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>
> No spawn killing, idling though.

watched the entire video.

TC, dude. You’re on auto pilot bro, you’re just going straight toward the enemy even when outnumbered 2:1. You didn’t grab any weapon and rarely threw a grenade. You also didn’t attempt to change your style of play either.

c’mon.

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> Instead of making you link your gameplay I went and watched your last Truth Slayer game. As others have said, you’re not getting spawn killed.
>
> At 11:33, you spawn in relative safety inside blue bubble. I say relative because in carbine 2, just in front of you, you immediately witness your teammate get destroyed by fuel rod. You then walk straight into that same spot, and the guy with camo fuelrod kills you. This is not being spawn killed. This is you pushing forward to an area that you just saw a fuel rod kill your teammate. Camo fuel rod is a pretty good combo, and he may have found you anyway, but after what you saw, you probably should have backed up deeper into bubble, and your teammate coming out of blue might have helped you.
>
> Your next two spawns you get at least one kill.
>
> At 9:06 you spawn carbine 1 and you see a guy moving into red from pink 1. Your teammates are just coming out of red. You sprint towards red 2 and die in a 1v1. That isn’t being spawn killed. That’s sprinting towards the enemy and losing a 1v1.
>
> At 8:49 you spawn in safety in blue two, try to sprint out carbine, get shot at by two people, try to run out pink side, get shot, then sprint out carbine side and get shot by two people.
>
> At 8:24 you spawned red 2, and indeed there was a person sitting on top of bubble just after you spawned, a case that might have got you spawn killed. But actually you sprint at him, no gun drawn, he shoots you, you jump into attic, and get killed. This is as close to getting spawn killed as I have seen so far, but again you sprinted directly at the guy without looking at him, and with no gun drawn you obviously lost the fight.
>
> I haven’t watched the rest. Being killed soon after you spawn is not necessarily being spawn killed. Most of this is you using sprint directly off spawn towards enemies, or towards places when you don’t know if there is an enemy. Off the very start you actually sprint all the way to their bubble, then immediately start sprinting back to your base, and get spartan charged in the back. There were enemies all around, but you sprinted from one side of the map and then back, without looking towards power weapons top mid, or towards power up in pink side (which contributed to camo fuel guy killing you on your next spawn).
>
> Try slowing down a bit. When you spawn, look at your radar, see where your friends are, check if they are already fighting, and if you don’t know who is out the front door of your base, walk with your pistol out rather than sprint out the door.

very informative, i appreciate this! normally, i double back if i see my team-mates Tag turn yellow as that as you know, means they are under fire. or if i check the killfeed, and see where my teammates are and if they dropped people, i double back to re-group, etc etc.

in my experience with randoms, why rather run when you come to back them up, then stand their ground and 2 v 1 it. (this has nothing to do with your post, just an observation i have made.)

i would love to use the radar more, if 18M wasn’t as useless as it is. but that’s a whole different forum post.

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> > Instead of making you link your gameplay I went and watched your last Truth Slayer game. As others have said, you’re not getting spawn killed.
> >
> > At 11:33, you spawn in relative safety inside blue bubble. I say relative because in carbine 2, just in front of you, you immediately witness your teammate get destroyed by fuel rod. You then walk straight into that same spot, and the guy with camo fuelrod kills you. This is not being spawn killed. This is you pushing forward to an area that you just saw a fuel rod kill your teammate. Camo fuel rod is a pretty good combo, and he may have found you anyway, but after what you saw, you probably should have backed up deeper into bubble, and your teammate coming out of blue might have helped you.
> >
> > Your next two spawns you get at least one kill.
> >
> > At 9:06 you spawn carbine 1 and you see a guy moving into red from pink 1. Your teammates are just coming out of red. You sprint towards red 2 and die in a 1v1. That isn’t being spawn killed. That’s sprinting towards the enemy and losing a 1v1.
> >
> > At 8:49 you spawn in safety in blue two, try to sprint out carbine, get shot at by two people, try to run out pink side, get shot, then sprint out carbine side and get shot by two people.
> >
> > At 8:24 you spawned red 2, and indeed there was a person sitting on top of bubble just after you spawned, a case that might have got you spawn killed. But actually you sprint at him, no gun drawn, he shoots you, you jump into attic, and get killed. This is as close to getting spawn killed as I have seen so far, but again you sprinted directly at the guy without looking at him, and with no gun drawn you obviously lost the fight.
> >
> > I haven’t watched the rest. Being killed soon after you spawn is not necessarily being spawn killed. Most of this is you using sprint directly off spawn towards enemies, or towards places when you don’t know if there is an enemy. Off the very start you actually sprint all the way to their bubble, then immediately start sprinting back to your base, and get spartan charged in the back. There were enemies all around, but you sprinted from one side of the map and then back, without looking towards power weapons top mid, or towards power up in pink side (which contributed to camo fuel guy killing you on your next spawn).
> >
> > Try slowing down a bit. When you spawn, look at your radar, see where your friends are, check if they are already fighting, and if you don’t know who is out the front door of your base, walk with your pistol out rather than sprint out the door.
>
>
> very informative, i appreciate this! normally, i double back if i see my team-mates Tag turn yellow as that as you know, means they are under fire. or if i check the killfeed, and see where my teammates are and if they dropped people, i double back to re-group, etc etc.
>
> in my experience with randoms, why rather run when you come to back them up, then stand their ground and 2 v 1 it. (this has nothing to do with your post, just an observation i have made.)
>
> i would love to use the radar more, if 18M wasn’t as useless as it is. but that’s a whole different forum post.

You’re welcome. But honestly, I think if you changed your attitude your game would change for the better immediately. For one thing, you should have been with your teammates before their tag turned yellow. And in general, it would be better if you stopped thinking of your teammates as ‘randoms’. They may have played poorly but you didn’t really help. Again, off spawn, you sprinted into the opposing team’s bubble. For what? You achieved nothing. You didn’t contest either of the power ups/weapons on the map - you didn’t even look towards them (they’re basically on the opposite side from where you went). Nor did you claim and hold a good position, like top mid or pink 2 (from both of these areas you could have seen your teammates and helped without the time needed to sprint all the way back to base).

The radar works fine, and is extremely useful, and again its your attitude about its supposed uselessness that is holding you back. For a start, I was talking about using your radar to see where all of your teammates are.- it shows you. Use that to see where you can push, and where you should be heading to help, rather than sprinting in a random direction. And when you spawn, look at it and think about where you spawned. Ask yourself - ‘if I spawned here, and my teammates are there, where would the opposing team be?’ The answer might sometimes be - probably in our bubble, and top mid, and about to look at me off spawn - and you will know to be careful.

In general, stay away from the echo chamber of this forum that keeps telling you that the only reason you are not doing well is because “the ranking system sucks”, “teammates are bad”, “radar is useless”, “maps are spawn traps”., “people are sweaty”, “its impossible to beat X weapon”, “the aiming is broken” etc. If you drop this attitude and ask 'what did I do wrong?, you will start improving straight away.

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> > > 2533274827519891;6:
> > > > 2533274913126156;4:
> > > > .profile -> game history -> choose game
> > > >
> > > > there’s an option to bookmark the game to be viewed in theater
> > >
> > >
> > > okay, i bookmarked it. don’t see an option to share it though
> > >
> > > Edit: my team was Red team.
> >
> >
> > OP, he’s not asking you to bookmark it, he’s asking you to send him a link to the game from your game history so he can bookmark it. XD
>
>
> I think its this one

Jesus, them gold players are vicious!

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> > > Instead of making you link your gameplay I went and watched your last Truth Slayer game. As others have said, you’re not getting spawn killed.
> > >
> > > At 11:33, you spawn in relative safety inside blue bubble. I say relative because in carbine 2, just in front of you, you immediately witness your teammate get destroyed by fuel rod. You then walk straight into that same spot, and the guy with camo fuelrod kills you. This is not being spawn killed. This is you pushing forward to an area that you just saw a fuel rod kill your teammate. Camo fuel rod is a pretty good combo, and he may have found you anyway, but after what you saw, you probably should have backed up deeper into bubble, and your teammate coming out of blue might have helped you.
> > >
> > > Your next two spawns you get at least one kill.
> > >
> > > At 9:06 you spawn carbine 1 and you see a guy moving into red from pink 1. Your teammates are just coming out of red. You sprint towards red 2 and die in a 1v1. That isn’t being spawn killed. That’s sprinting towards the enemy and losing a 1v1.
> > >
> > > At 8:49 you spawn in safety in blue two, try to sprint out carbine, get shot at by two people, try to run out pink side, get shot, then sprint out carbine side and get shot by two people.
> > >
> > > At 8:24 you spawned red 2, and indeed there was a person sitting on top of bubble just after you spawned, a case that might have got you spawn killed. But actually you sprint at him, no gun drawn, he shoots you, you jump into attic, and get killed. This is as close to getting spawn killed as I have seen so far, but again you sprinted directly at the guy without looking at him, and with no gun drawn you obviously lost the fight.
> > >
> > > I haven’t watched the rest. Being killed soon after you spawn is not necessarily being spawn killed. Most of this is you using sprint directly off spawn towards enemies, or towards places when you don’t know if there is an enemy. Off the very start you actually sprint all the way to their bubble, then immediately start sprinting back to your base, and get spartan charged in the back. There were enemies all around, but you sprinted from one side of the map and then back, without looking towards power weapons top mid, or towards power up in pink side (which contributed to camo fuel guy killing you on your next spawn).
> > >
> > > Try slowing down a bit. When you spawn, look at your radar, see where your friends are, check if they are already fighting, and if you don’t know who is out the front door of your base, walk with your pistol out rather than sprint out the door.
> >
> >
> > very informative, i appreciate this! normally, i double back if i see my team-mates Tag turn yellow as that as you know, means they are under fire. or if i check the killfeed, and see where my teammates are and if they dropped people, i double back to re-group, etc etc.
> >
> > in my experience with randoms, why rather run when you come to back them up, then stand their ground and 2 v 1 it. (this has nothing to do with your post, just an observation i have made.)
> >
> > i would love to use the radar more, if 18M wasn’t as useless as it is. but that’s a whole different forum post.
>
>
> You’re welcome. But honestly, I think if you changed your attitude your game would change for the better immediately. For one thing, you should have been with your teammates before their tag turned yellow. And in general, it would be better if you stopped thinking of your teammates as ‘randoms’. They may have played poorly but you didn’t really help. Again, off spawn, you sprinted into the opposing team’s bubble. For what? You achieved nothing. You didn’t contest either of the power ups/weapons on the map - you didn’t even look towards them (they’re basically on the opposite side from where you went). Nor did you claim and hold a good position, like top mid or pink 2 (from both of these areas you could have seen your teammates and helped without the time needed to sprint all the way back to base).
>
> The radar works fine, and is extremely useful, and again its your attitude about its supposed uselessness that is holding you back. For a start, I was talking about using your radar to see where all of your teammates are.- it shows you. Use that to see where you can push, and where you should be heading to help, rather than sprinting in a random direction. And when you spawn, look at it and think about where you spawned. Ask yourself - ‘if I spawned here, and my teammates are there, where would the opposing team be?’ The answer might sometimes be - probably in our bubble, and top mid, and about to look at me off spawn - and you will know to be careful.
>
> In general, stay away from the echo chamber of this forum that keeps telling you that the only reason you are not doing well is because “the ranking system sucks”, “teammates are bad”, “radar is useless”, “maps are spawn traps”., “people are sweaty”, “its impossible to beat X weapon”, “the aiming is broken” etc. If you drop this attitude and ask 'what did I do wrong?, you will start improving straight away.

did all of these things pre-season-season 2. managed a 1.2 for a while. it was a very frustrating and stressful experience. with the going 22-4 and LOSING. to the point i would punch the things in my room. so i gave up on it, and let my K/D tank

maybe i skill capped myself far too hard. and your post has me feeling inspired to get back to where i was

TC, You inspired me to make a video of your match.
Please watch when you get a chance.
Thank you.

Yours truly,
StevetheHaloGod