I hate to say this, but I think there is fundamental problem with 343i’s management team.
We don’t know the full details, but evidence speaks for itself.
I really hope something changes in their management.
I have been defending 343i for a while, but I gotta admit there is problem.
too lazy to read, can you sum it up in 2-4 sentences?
Yes there is mismanagement at 343.
there definitley is its obvious that there are some there that just want to make money and dont want to make a great game so long as they get paid and wanting money is fine but the way this industry works is you create something worthwhile THAN get paid. Some at 343 manegment and even the part of microsoft that oversees 343s actions dont seem to understand that fundemental truth…
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> Brian Reed & the mismanagement of 343i’s narrative team – Halo Monitor
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> I hate to say this, but I think there is fundamental problem with 343i’s management team.
> We don’t know the full details, but evidence speaks for itself.
> I really hope something changes in their management.
> I have been defending 343i for a while, but I gotta admit there is problem.
It is true. We haven’t gotten a reaction, let alone acknowledgment of Halo 5’s campaign or the marketing for it, that I know of. Like it says on the website, it’s been pretty silent.
Spartan ops which was supposed to be some big multi season thing quickly turned into a one season flip that not many people liked. The script of Spartan ops made me want to gouge out my ear drums. Then some one at 343 decided hey let’s have that guy who wrote Spartan ops write for H5 because you know Spartan ops was such a success…oh wait no it wasn’t… sounds like mismanagement to me.
I think mismanagement is a huge issue in the poor storytelling of the Halo franchise. While Brian Reed’s work has been arguably very weak, the responsibility of Halo 5 does not fall only on his shoulders. There should be a team of writers working together, with each member being able to compensate for the weakness of another. Brian Reed can write good overarching plots, but fails with the characters and other small details. Other writers who are better at this sort of thing should have picked up his slack.
The fact that no writers have been hired to replace guys like Chris Shlerf and Armando Troisi is very worrysome, since it puts more power, and thus responsibility, on a team that most definitely isn’t well-rounded. While Halo 4’s story was arguably too dependent on the expanded universe, many people found the campaign to be excellent, especially the characters. But again, the team that worked on Halo 4 is completely different from the one that worked on Halo 5, and it definitely shows.
343i should definitely go on a serious hiring spree and get a good team of writers. Again, while each individual member of the writing team may not be bad, they definitely need the support of others writers to create a strong narrative. The fact that 343i refuses to acknowledge the weak story is worrisome as well. There has been a plethora of criticism, and I’m sure they know about it. If I were them, I would be very worried regarding the success of Halo in future titles. They have a lot of work to do, and I really hope that they can get it done.
You can pretty much say this about any company. Insert company name here, there is a problem with management. You are providing a blog post, that adds no additional value or information to what has already been said on this forum.
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> You can pretty much say this about any company. Insert company name here, there is a problem with management. You are providing a blog post, that adds no additional value or information to what has already been said on this forum.
The fact that no other writers have been hired to replace old ones is news to be, thus is of some value. Plus, so many people are quick to place all of the blame on Brian Reed without considering other reasons that the story in Halo 5 was bad. Just because you don’t appreciate some things that have been said, it doesn’t mean that others won’t. Get off your high horse.
Thats one way of putting it…
I agree with every single statement that says something along the lines of " Halo 5 had a terrible campaign" howevever I don’t agree that it is solely Brian Reed’s fault. Other writers participated in the making of H5 story in addition other people had to review this story before it was even put into play.
The Tom French part of the article is also true, he is a fan favourite because he seems to listen and reply to us (and he seems like a cool guy). I feel if 343 or someone whom works there replied to us and gave us a bull-Yoink- explanation as to why H5 campaign sucked so bad we would not be as angry 6 months down as we are, the community would know 343 knows they -Yoinked!- up.
The worst part is the silence, we know forge will blow our -Yoink- in Halo 6. We know the MP might be great in Halo 6. But we dont know we will have a good campaign in Halo 6.
^ and that’s the problem.
dis is my opinion btw just inc4se u did nt no. Dnt get defin$$ve I is jus keepin it reel!1!1!1!
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> I think mismanagement is a huge issue in the poor storytelling of the Halo franchise. While Brian Reed’s work has been arguably very weak, the responsibility of Halo 5 does not fall only on his shoulders. There should be a team of writers working together, with each member being able to compensate for the weakness of another. Brian Reed can write good overarching plots, but fails with the characters and other small details. Other writers who are better at this sort of thing should have picked up his slack.
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> The fact that no writers have been hired to replace guys like Chris Shlerf and Armando Troisi is very worrysome, since it puts more power, and thus responsibility, on a team that most definitely isn’t well-rounded. While Halo 4’s story was arguably too dependent on the expanded universe, many people found the campaign to be excellent, especially the characters. But again, the team that worked on Halo 4 is completely different from the one that worked on Halo 5, and it definitely shows.
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> 343i should definitely go on a serious hiring spree and get a good team of writers. Again, while each individual member of the writing team may not be bad, they definitely need the support of others writers to create a strong narrative. The fact that 343i refuses to acknowledge the weak story is worrisome as well. There has been a plethora of criticism, and I’m sure they know about it. If I were them, I would be very worried regarding the success of Halo in future titles. They have a lot of work to do, and I really hope that they can get it done.
I think companies in general are afraid to admit their mistakes. They think that would seriously damage their reputation.
343I is probably thinking we will slowly forget faults of Halo 5. Not saying it is right to remain silent, but not many companies have guts to come out and speak.
Although I think people are being too negative and pessimistic toward 343i (I mean completely ignoring good parts of Halo 5), I think something has to be done.
You are right. It is mystery that they didn’t try to fill the empty spots. Probably because MS rushed deadline.
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> Spartan ops which was supposed to be some big multi season thing quickly turned into a one season flip that not many people liked. The script of Spartan ops made me want to gouge out my ear drums. Then some one at 343 decided hey let’s have that guy who wrote Spartan ops write for H5 because you know Spartan ops was such a success…oh wait no it wasn’t… sounds like mismanagement to me.
We had no evidence that Spartan Ops was going to go on for more than 1 season. 343 mentioned no plans to do that. All they said they may do Season 2 depending on how Season 1 does. They only really planned a single season.
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> > I think mismanagement is a huge issue in the poor storytelling of the Halo franchise. While Brian Reed’s work has been arguably very weak, the responsibility of Halo 5 does not fall only on his shoulders. There should be a team of writers working together, with each member being able to compensate for the weakness of another. Brian Reed can write good overarching plots, but fails with the characters and other small details. Other writers who are better at this sort of thing should have picked up his slack.
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> > The fact that no writers have been hired to replace guys like Chris Shlerf and Armando Troisi is very worrysome, since it puts more power, and thus responsibility, on a team that most definitely isn’t well-rounded. While Halo 4’s story was arguably too dependent on the expanded universe, many people found the campaign to be excellent, especially the characters. But again, the team that worked on Halo 4 is completely different from the one that worked on Halo 5, and it definitely shows.
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> > 343i should definitely go on a serious hiring spree and get a good team of writers. Again, while each individual member of the writing team may not be bad, they definitely need the support of others writers to create a strong narrative. The fact that 343i refuses to acknowledge the weak story is worrisome as well. There has been a plethora of criticism, and I’m sure they know about it. If I were them, I would be very worried regarding the success of Halo in future titles. They have a lot of work to do, and I really hope that they can get it done.
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> I think companies in general are afraid to admit their mistakes. They think that would seriously damage their reputation.
> 343I is probably thinking we will slowly forget faults of Halo 5. Not saying it is right to remain silent, but not many companies have guts to come out and speak.
> Although I think people are being too negative and pessimistic toward 343i (I mean completely ignoring good parts of Halo 5), I think something has to be done.
> You are right. It is mystery that they didn’t try to fill the empty spots. Probably because MS rushed deadline.
ignoring the good parts of halo 5 campaign makes me sort of [D:]
343I’s management is probally no different to anywhere else.
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> You are right. It is mystery that they didn’t try to fill the empty spots. Probably because MS rushed deadline.
You can’t say rushed deadline when the game had the same time as every other game.
Silence fills the empty grave.
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Obviously.
BTW it’s noting personal against Brian Reed… I don’t even blame him. I can’t even really say if he is a good writer or not as I haven’t read anything else he wrote for Halo. I am just going by Spartan Ops and H5 scripts which were both pretty bad. H5 not quite as bad as Spartan Ops but still not very good. Now is it because he isn’t a good writer? Was he not given clear instructions for how the game was to proceed? Did they not tell him how the game was going to be advertised? Did the team working on advertising not know exactly how the game was going to go… no one can really say but all adds up to departments not communicating which adds up to mismanagement as management is supposed to make sure all teams are working together.
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> You can pretty much say this about any company. Insert company name here, there is a problem with management. You are providing a blog post, that adds no additional value or information to what has already been said on this forum.
Yes. But 343 is definitely one of the worst developers I know of.