Because I can’t think of one. It makes ZERO sense not to have it at launch, let alone half a year after the game has come out. It is not hard at all to just stick two flag spawns on a map like Exile and maybe change a few other things.
Objective gametypes in BTB would be great, especially since objective gametypes don’t typically have personal ordnance so everyone isn’t walking around with a power weapon they got by taking potshots at some guy across the map they got an assist for. BTB in general would be better without a lot of Halo 4’s “new” features, but that’s not what this thread is about.
Team Objective needs to go BACK to 5v5 or 4v4 because it is no replacement for objectives in BTB. The population got even lower after they increased the team sizes and now you hardly ever get to play on a map that isn’t huge. No one wants to play Oddball on Meltdown with 12 people except kill farmers.
BTB CTF where everyone goes around getting kills but no one tries to get the flags. In Halo Reach it turned into road warrior on hemorrhage.
I have to agree with the OP here. BTB needs Objective. As well Team Objective needs to back to 4 or 5 players NOT 6. It’s a pain in the -Yoink- sometimes to get 6 people to play that. I HATE JIP in Objective when I only have a 4 person team. And YES, I’m been put into a JIP game with that many players on my team. SUCKED big time.
BTB Objective has been one of the biggest requests for gameplay yet it still goes ignored or at least not talked about publicly by 343. The question then is WHY?
> BTB CTF where everyone goes around getting kills but no one tries to get the flags. In Halo Reach it turned into road warrior on hemorrhage.
Excuse me, I went for the objective! (At the cost of many guyofnowhere84s)
BTB OBJECTIVE MUST RETURN. 6v6 is not good enough…
I concur, OP. Definitely a Capture the Flag game would go. BTB slayer is getting kind of old now. Couldn’t you guys say Dominion and Extraction work in BTB or is it too much?
> > BTB CTF where everyone goes around getting kills but no one tries to get the flags. In Halo Reach it turned into road warrior on hemorrhage.
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> Excuse me, I went for the objective! (At the cost of many guyofnowhere84s)
> BTB OBJECTIVE MUST RETURN. 6v6 is not good enough…
So did I. It was horrible in Reach moving all the way across the map and grabbing the flag only to have no one come pick me up because they’re too busy having a vehicle fight or waiting for the sniper to spawn.
This isn’t Halo Reach. All people do is kill in Team Objective anyway now so it’s not like it can get any worse.
They’re supposed to be buffing Warthogs or something right? That could put a stop to people just trying to get kills because getting in one to drive to their base to grab the flag would actually be viable… I bet not having personal ordnance so people don’t camp the whole game with a sniper would help too.
Of course if the commendations didn’t all revolve around getting kills with specific weapons and you didn’t unlock things by doing them this wouldn’t be a problem anyway.
> BTB CTF where everyone goes around getting kills but no one tries to get the flags. In Halo Reach it turned into road warrior on hemorrhage.
Seeing their poor gametype handling, I doubt the game would stray away from this.
the official response was for balance reasons needed to be hashed out on the maps. no specifics beyond that.
Yeah kill farming is always going to happen. It’s been that way since Halo 2 but so many people want objective in BTB that I imagine there would be a pretty large amount of teams going into the playlist to actually win and not pad their k/d.
> the official response was for balance reasons needed to be hashed out on the maps. no specifics beyond that.
That excuse doesn’t work anymore. It does not take six months to add objective gametypes into the playlist. The most they would have to do is maybe replace/get rid of some of the vehicles.
For example: Exile CTF would have no tank and give both teams either one Guass Hog, one Chain Hog or one of each along with a Ghost and Mongoose. Not sure about a Banshee but I’d probably take it out.
Of course there’s always the problem of everyone in BTB using stickies and a plasma pistol, but it’s not my fault 343 decided to let people spawn with them. I know in that podcast with Frank, Bravo and Kevin they were talking about certain playlists disallowing certain loadout options, and doing that could cause new players to wonder why they can’t use X because 343 can’t inform them why because of “UI restrictions” or some nonsense like that, but I think it would work with minimal whining from people. At least not as much complaining as their getting ABOUT people using those loadout options.
343 already announced a BTO playlist is in the works.
My biggest problem with BTO games in Halo 3 and Reach is that they were incredibly lopsided and totally not fun experience for those who came to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Let the MLG and K/D fanboys have their slayer, but make sure Objective won’t help them pad their stats.
It’s a disgrace in my opinion.
I used to be a fan of using forge to construct BTB maps such as Trident in Halo Reach, however with Halo 4 it’s a shambles regarding matchmaking. I wouldn’t be too surprised if they announced that they have a new gametype called Assault returning to Halo 5 for a sales bullet point.
It’s sad to see the neglect of traditional Halo.
Absolutely zero reason to not have objective playlists? How about the fact that no one would play them.
People on the forums complained for years about lack of objective choices, then when theyre added they have horribly low populations. Where are the complainers?
> Absolutely zero reason to not have objective playlists? How about the fact that no one would play them.
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> People on the forums complained for years about lack of objective choices, then when theyre added they have horribly low populations. Where are the complainers?
There was never a Big team Objective playlist…
> 343 already announced a BTO playlist is in the works.
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> My biggest problem with BTO games in Halo 3 and Reach is that they were incredibly lopsided and totally not fun experience for those who came to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Let the MLG and K/D fanboys have their slayer, but make sure Objective won’t help them pad their stats.
Not exactly, Team Objective got bumped up to 6v6 and added multiple gametypes and essentially said there’s your BTB Objective.
BTO should have no personal ordnance and be team based CSR so people actually play to win.
> > 343 already announced a BTO playlist is in the works.
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> > My biggest problem with BTO games in Halo 3 and Reach is that they were incredibly lopsided and totally not fun experience for those who came to play the game the way it was meant to be played. Let the MLG and K/D fanboys have their slayer, but make sure Objective won’t help them pad their stats.
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> Not exactly, Team Objective got bumped up to 6v6 and added multiple gametypes and essentially said there’s your BTB Objective.
Saying 6v6 is the same as 8v8 btb objective is trying too hard. It’s just not the same thing.
> Absolutely zero reason to not have objective playlists? How about the fact that no one would play them.
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> People on the forums complained for years about lack of objective choices, then when theyre added they have horribly low populations. Where are the complainers?
My -Yoink- “no one would play them”. Did you ever play Halo 2 or 3? Not everyone that goes in BTB is some clueless kid playing alone that just wants to kill things, there’s a large group of people (or there WERE, it wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of them abandoned the game by now) that like large-population objective games that go in with a full team.
> BTB CTF where everyone goes around getting kills but no one tries to get the flags. In Halo Reach it turned into road warrior on hemorrhage.
Nah yo. It was like that for noobs at first, until they realized that when the enemy actually played for the objective, the game would end rather quick since the noobs didn’t bother defending their flag or anything.