Is the UNSC the New World Order of Halo?

Okay Waypoint.

I’ve been researching a little about this due to my religion.
Is the UNSC the New World Order of the Halo universe? I mean, are the countries on Earth and the colonies in the galaxy all under the same control of one group? If anyone could please answer and explain it would be very helpful. Otherwise I will have to stop playing Halo and leave the Master Chief and this community :frowning: Trust me you want me on your team when your playing SWAT.

> Okay Waypoint.
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> I’ve been researching a little about this due to my religion.
> Is the UNSC the New World Order? I mean, are the countries on Earth and the colonies in the galaxy all under the same control of one group? If anyone could please answer and explain it would be very helpful. Otherwise I will have to stop playing Halo and leave the Master Chief and this community :frowning: Trust me you want me on your team when your playing SWAT.

  1. That’s perfectly fine, but please try to refrain from discussing religion in the forums as it is against the rules.

  2. Indeed, the UNSC serves as humanity’s military, exploratory, and scientific agency of the Unified Earth Government. However, the “Innies” (look them up) are human rebels who oppose them.

  3. Why would you stop playing Halo and leave the community because of something like this?

  4. This thread belongs in the “Halo Universe” section.

  5. That is totally irrelevant to the topic, but try to look in the “Recruiting” section of the forums to find people to play with!

> 1. That’s perfectly fine, but please try to refrain from discussing religion in the forums as it is against the rules.
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> 2. Indeed, the UNSC serves as humanity’s military, exploratory, and scientific agency of the Unified Earth Government. However, the “Innies” (look them up) are human rebels who oppose them.
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> 3. Why would you stop playing Halo and leave the community because of something like this?
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> 4. This thread belongs in the “Halo Universe” section.
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> 5. That is totally irrelevant to the topic, but try to look in the “Recruiting” section of the forums to find people to play with!

Thank you for letting me know. Also, I know about the Innies, I’m a huge Halo fan I just needed this clarified.

  1. I didn’t even mention my religion. The New World Order isn’t part of religion (it’s just Satan’s plan).

  2. Whatever, I was making a joke. Why so serious?

Alright well, bye all.

> > 1. That’s perfectly fine, but please try to refrain from discussing religion in the forums as it is against the rules.
> >
> > 2. Indeed, the UNSC serves as humanity’s military, exploratory, and scientific agency of the Unified Earth Government. However, the “Innies” (look them up) are human rebels who oppose them.
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> > 3. Why would you stop playing Halo and leave the community because of something like this?
> >
> > 4. This thread belongs in the “Halo Universe” section.
> >
> > 5. That is totally irrelevant to the topic, but try to look in the “Recruiting” section of the forums to find people to play with!
>
> Thank you for letting me know. Also, I know about the Innies, I’m a huge Halo fan I just needed this clarified.
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> 1. I didn’t even mention my religion. The New World Order isn’t part of religion (it’s just Satan’s plan).
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> 5. Whatever, I was making a joke. Why so serious?
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> Alright well, bye all.

You mentioned that you’ve been researching a little about this due to your religion. I just didn’t want the thread to lead into a religious discussion, as it could potentially lead to trouble.

Not very serious, actually. You have my apologies if I seemed to offend you!

The UNSC is not the New World Order.

They are a Military, Scientific, and Exploratory Branch of the United Earth Government.

The UEG is not controlled by one person. The logistics of running a civilization under a single government is not feasible. As such, it takes hundreds if not thousands of people to keep it intact.

The UEG, nor UNSC is in control of everything. That much is evident by Parangosky undermining the UEG’s Goals, and the Inssurectionists rebelling.

Were it not for the UNSC, Humanity would have been wiped out. The Human Race wouldn’t exist.

I completely fail to understand why you should stop playing Halo simply because a faction in the fictional Halo universe might resemble a conspiracy theory.

As for your question; I don’t know much about this “New world order” lark, but I had a quick look on wikipedia and it seems to me that it is nothing like the UNSC. The UNSC simply acts as Humanity’s collective military and authorities. It’s essentially a similiar concept to the British Empire. It’s the military counterpart to the UEG.

"The Earth should not be cut up into hundreds of different sections, each inhabited by a self-defined segment of humanity that considers its own welfare and its own “national security” to be paramount above all other consideration.

I am all for cultural diversity and would be willing to see each recognizable group value its cultural heritage. I am a New York patriot, for instance, and if I lived in Los Angeles, I would love to get together with other New York expatriates and sing “Give My Regards to Broadway.”

This sort of thing, however, should remain cultural and benign. I’m against it if it means that each group despises others and lusts to wipe them out. I’m against arming each little self-defined group with weapons with which to enforce its own prides and prejudices.

The Earth faces environmental problems right now that threaten the imminent destruction of civilization and the end of the planet as a livable world. Humanity cannot afford to waste its financial and emotional resources on endless, meaningless quarrels between each group and all others. There must be a sense of globalism in which the world unites to solve the real problems that face all groups alike.

Can that be done? The question is equivalent to: Can humanity survive?

I am not a Zionist, then, because I don’t believe in nations, and because Zionism merely sets up one more nation to trouble the world. It sets up one more nation to have “rights” and “demands” and “national security” and to feel it must guard itself against its neighbors.

There are no nations! There is only humanity. And if we don’t come to understand that right soon, there will be no nations, because there will be no humanity."

Isaac Asimov

To me I don’t see anything inherently nefarious with a new world order or global government just as Mr. Asimov believed.

Honestly most sci-fi is based on humanity being mostly a single unified government, often with some rebel force. Is there a big sci-fi franchise where this isn’t so? I guess like, battletech, but even they have their unified time periods I think.

Unless a story is very human v human, usually sci-fi keeps humanity as like 1-2 groups most in order for there to be literary space for the aliens.

> Honestly most sci-fi is based on humanity being mostly a single unified government, often with some rebel force. Is there a big sci-fi franchise where this isn’t so? I guess like, battletech, but even they have their unified time periods I think.
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> Unless a story is very human v human, usually sci-fi keeps humanity as like 1-2 groups most in order for there to be literary space for the aliens.

And the aliens are usually the reason why humanity unifies.

I never understood this irrational fear of a United Humanity. Of course if Genesis is to be believed, Humanity had already been united once and it was God who shattered us into pieces. Sounds a lot like Ancient Humanity being shattered by the Forerunner does it not?

Even if one is strongly opposed, I don’t think halo is really promoting a ‘new world order’ of sorts. The UNSC is far from perfect, and its not like the games or books really spend much time highlighting its upsides or trying to force its mentality on anyone.

I don’t see why it’d be any more objectionable than the Spartan II program.

> I never understood this irrational fear of a United Humanity. Of course if Genesis is to be believed, Humanity had already been united once and it was God who shattered us into pieces. Sounds a lot like Ancient Humanity being shattered by the Forerunner does it not?

I remember in a Bungie ViDoc them saying that Halo was partly inspired by the Bible. The Flood, the Ark, gathering of species it all seems to be a sci fi take on the Noah’s Ark myth.

> I never understood this irrational fear of a United Humanity. Of course if Genesis is to be believed, Humanity had already been united once and it was God who shattered us into pieces. Sounds a lot like Ancient Humanity being shattered by the Forerunner does it not?

there is a big difference between united humanity and the new world order which seeks to centralize all governmental, political and military power under a non elected and unaccountable aristocrisy.

> > I never understood this irrational fear of a United Humanity. Of course if Genesis is to be believed, Humanity had already been united once and it was God who shattered us into pieces. Sounds a lot like Ancient Humanity being shattered by the Forerunner does it not?
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> there is a big difference between united humanity and the new world order which seeks to centralize all governmental, political and military power under a non elected and unaccountable aristocrisy.

Do we already have an unancounble aristocracy? Although the trope of humans uniting under one government is common through our sci fi.

ONI is more or less the Halo Universes NWO. Not sure if Waypoint is the proper place to delve into talks of the NWO. As it may bring up talks about ones religions and beliefs.

> I never understood this irrational fear of a United Humanity. Of course if Genesis is to be believed, Humanity had already been united once and it was God who shattered us into pieces. Sounds a lot like Ancient Humanity being shattered by the Forerunner does it not?

So the Halo story was influenced by the Bible. Dats some nice stuff!

Thanks to all! I actually kind of started thinking that the UEG is like the united nations. And there isn’t anyone takin world domination in Halo, which is the main purpose for world unification in the New World Order. Also, UNSC is just military like you all have said, and it’s like the British Empire. There are other planets with humans in the Halo universe, so Earth would be like America and Reach would be like Russia or something.

> So the Halo story was influenced by the Bible. Dats some nice stuff!

Yes. Halo’s overall story actually lines up very nicely with world religions. You see, nearly all religions seem to have one thing in common: A great flood wiped out nearly all life. The survivors were spared to repopulate. It mirrors what happens in Halo nealry exactly. The Flood assimilated nearly all life in the Orion Arm. Many of the species, enough to repopulate, were brought to the Ark to wait as the Flood died off from the Halo Array.

> I actually kind of started thinking that the UEG is like the united nations.

Remnants of the UN still exist in Halo. The UNSC is the United Nations Space Command.

> And there isn’t anyone takin world domination in Halo, which is the main purpose for world unification in the New World Order.

Not at all. As I said, running the UNSC and UEG is logistically impossible by a single person. While the UEG does indeed have a central leader, the President, there are other political and administrative bodies that handle other things. Very similar to the style of system most democratic nations today use. In addition, when the Covenant invaded, nearly all control and power the UEG had was handed over to the UNSC in order tp prevent loss of life, and consolidate military forces and strategies.

> Also, UNSC is just military like you all have said, and it’s like the British Empire. There are other planets with humans in the Halo universe, so Earth would be like America and Reach would be like Russia or something.

If we were to use the British Empire as an analogy, Earth would be England, the Inner Colonies would be the oldest colonies and as such, direct extensions of England itself. The Outer Colonies would be more akin to the American Colonies.

Now, even though that analogy is the best, it’s not entirely correct as Human Civilization in the 26th Century is much more complex.

You need to understand something though. The idea of a New World Order is literally impossible to carry out. No single man can run an entire nation, let alone Humanity as a whole. As such, no single person would ever be able to hold all the power. The UEG and UNSC have humanity’s best intentions at heart. Frank O’Conner once described the UNSC as being similar to the Federation in Star Trek. They want to do good, and they try, but not everyone sees it that way.

Because the UEG is centered on Earth, the political power and voting rights are generally given there. Next, the Inner Colonies have the next greatest political power, and the Outer Colonies have the least. This is why the Insurrection started. Many people in the Outer Colonies, and some in the Inner Colonies, feel like they are being used to supply the Inner Colonies and Earth unfairly. They don’t think the laws are fair and feel they should be given sovereign control over their own planets and systems. The UNSC and UEG attempted diplomatic solutions, but as they dragged on, the Innies got violent.

By now, I’m sure you can see that Humanity’s structured Governemnt is a lot more complex with different intentions than this, NWO.